A4 Skyhawk

[southernrebel]

sent again

[southernrebel]

hay jaz, it seems people have moved to veao mod section for A-4C and your left in the wind. what is going on? have you quit or sold it, what? please explain.

[Oesau]

hay jaz, it seems people have moved to veao mod section for A-4C and your left in the wind. what is going on? have you quit or sold it, what? please explain.

 

I wouldn't say sold out, but Jaz's Scooter is the basis for the VEAO mod - thus the focus is over in that forum

[MK-82_1_EACH]

In this thread, post 100 .... Collaboration announcement.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2094350&postcount=100

[JazAero]

hay jaz, it seems people have moved to veao mod section for A-4C and your left in the wind. what is going on? have you quit or sold it, what? please explain.

 

We are very much active. The reason people have moved over to the VEAO mod section is probably because we have chosen them produce the aircraft for us .

 

you'll just have to stay tuned for the official announcement. :)

 

that does not mean this thread is closed. It just means we're working harder to make this project a reality.

[JazAero]

Update

 

some screenshots updating what I've been doing with my model. still looking for a sponsor that can get things done.

Enjoy the pictures.

 

 

[TGW]

Is this aircraft available (publicly) for X-plane 10? Which URL (the .ORG?)

Edited November 5, 2014 by TGW

[JazAero]

Is this aircraft available (publicly) for X-plane 10? Which URL (the .ORG?)

 

it will be in the very near future. I intend to develop for both platforms.

 

Without getting into a "who's flight model is better debate" right now we are vetting the flight model for X-Plane. Which is a lot easier to do on that platform. Due to the flight model development tools built into X-Plane. It is easier to get a highly accurate "PFM, quality flight model" which I can then use the data from that to create the flight model in DCS. a lot of the flight model debate stems from the fact that a lot of X-Plane developers do not properly vet their flight models even though the program was designed from the very beginning to do exactly that. If it is good enough for all these companies

 

 

Then I imagine it will be good enough for DCS as well. The rest is just politics. :-)

[JazAero]

hay jaz, it seems people have moved to veao mod section for A-4C and your left in the wind. what is going on? have you quit or sold it, what? please explain.

 

I'm back to developing this myself, Veao couldn't get the job done, so now I am going to have to figure out a way to do it myself. when I undertook this, I did not realize just how much politics and secrecy were involved .

 

I thought I was just making a aircraft add on.

 

if anyone wants to take a crack at doing the flight model programming, feel free to message me.

 

I have all the data.

[JazAero]

I wouldn't say sold out, but Jaz's Scooter is the basis for the VEAO mod - thus the focus is over in that forum

 

just a heads up focus returns here :-)

[cichlidfan]

some screenshots updating what I've been doing with my model. still looking for a sponsor that can get things done.

 

I'm back to developing this myself, Veao couldn't get the job done, so now I am going to have to figure out a way to do it myself. when I undertook this, I did not realize just how much politics and secrecy were involved .

 

Interesting choice of words. :music_whistling:

[Pman]

Interesting choice of words. :music_whistling:

 

It is isnt it

 

Pman

[NineLine]

Dont make me pull this thread over guys ;)

[Skoop]

So the DCS Skyhawk isn't dead, just not going to be done by VEAO. So much for Boeing raining on our parade. Can you release it as a free mod ? Is that a way around Boeing ? Then we just give donations to the guy doing the work ?

 

Looks great what you have so far, press on, I'll support and buy it.

[outlawal2]

Well JazAero we are all waiting to see your completion of this module, considering that VEAO weren't able to complete it...

 

How exactly do you intend to get the signoffs required if Veao could not?

[BR55Sevas]

If there are license problems, how do you plan to officialy release mod if you`ll finish him?

Anyway, best of luck!

[outlawal2]

Well JazAero we are all waiting to see your completion of this module, considering that VEAO weren't able to complete it...

 

How exactly do you intend to get the signoffs required if Veao could not?

 

If there are license problems, how do you plan to officialy release mod if you`ll finish him?

Anyway, best of luck!

 

 

Any response to these licensing questions?

[NineLine]

Wasnt it that boeing was asking too much coin for the right to produce it? If so the easy answer is having enough money to pay what they are asking, I thought that VEAO just didnt see it as financially viable... feel free to correct me if I remember wrong.

[cichlidfan]

Wasnt it that boeing was asking too much coin for the right to produce it? If so the easy answer is having enough money to pay what they are asking, I thought that VEAO just didnt see it as financially viable... feel free to correct me if I remember wrong.

 

Which is one reason why I find the choice of words interesting.

[Pman]

Wasnt it that boeing was asking too much coin for the right to produce it? If so the easy answer is having enough money to pay what they are asking, I thought that VEAO just didnt see it as financially viable... feel free to correct me if I remember wrong.

That is correct, Mcdonnell Douglas for the record :)

 

Pman

[NineLine]

That is correct, Mcdonnell Douglas for the record :)

 

Pman

 

Sorry... too many things at once, thanks for the correction :)

[outlawal2]

So the reality of the situation is:

 

VEAO attempted to do the right thing and work with the current copyright holder, making sure to be as transparent and legal as they could.

 

When faced with the large royalty fee requested by said copyright holder, they decided that the project could not be completed in a manner that allowed them to EAT...

 

And have since ceased work on the module...

 

THAT...

 

Is a far cry from...

 

"Veao couldn't get the job done, so now I am going to have to figure out a way to do it myself."

 

:doh:

[rjetster1]

Taking things a little too literally… I didn’t see any exclamation marks in his post. It makes it worse when you post things like “So the reality of the situation is:” “THAT is a far cry from…” basically stirring the pot. Just leave it alone.

[outlawal2]

Nope not stirring the pot..

 

A statement was made...

 

It is not truthful and I am pointing out what the situation really is..

 

If anyone wishes to not be called out on something then don't say it in the first place...

 

And you sir... Should leave it alone...

[SkateZilla]

The public Statement's have been made.

 

You guys can avoid digging for more info now, as it's likely private information or under NDA.

 

Securing a License is not always easy, I've dealt with it first hand.

 

 

That being said, I can't wait to fly the scooter in some way,shape,form inside of DCS.