Flagrum Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 But those are the engineers that lost the war. :P Finickiness ...
Isegrim Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 But those are the engineers that lost the war. :P I think it would have been much more easy for the allies when they had not been that good.:smilewink: "Blyat Naaaaa" - Izlom
USARStarkey Posted June 28, 2014 Author Posted June 28, 2014 I think it would have been much more easy for the allies when they had not been that good.:smilewink: German Engineering is massively over-hyped. Just look at the Panther, lots of armor, mobility and firepower. Yet, even the later models had operational rates of less than 50%. If it cant make it the fight, it may as well not exist. The allies had plenty of engineering marvels off their own in ww2. It is a nonsensical myth that the Nazi's had better tech than everyone else. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Weed Be gone Needed
Python Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 Give me a squadron of Spitfires... ;) I do wish I could afford a nice BMW M3 though lol. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Isegrim Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 German Engineering is massively over-hyped. Just look at the Panther, lots of armor, mobility and firepower. Yet, even the later models had operational rates of less than 50%. If it cant make it the fight, it may as well not exist. The allies had plenty of engineering marvels off their own in ww2. It is a nonsensical myth that the Nazi's had better tech than everyone else. 1! I never said that the Germans where better. 2! They had by far much less resources than allied engineers. 3! Also allies had proplems with newly invented things so just stop overhyping your own point of view. "Blyat Naaaaa" - Izlom
Flagrum Posted June 28, 2014 Posted June 28, 2014 To not drag this thread too far off topic ... continue here please, if you like: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2103724
fastfreddie Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 I'll probably fly whatever seems to suit me best or whatever the online server needs. I'm sure everyone will be jumping to play the FW190 at the beginning so I'll probably stick with the P51 then. Really looking forward to the K4 and most of all the P47.
Anatoli-Kagari9 Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 I'm a Bitch! I'll fly anything with props in DCS World, being it ww1, ww2, modern comabt aircraft or rotary wings :-) Just like in IL2 BOS, I usually pick the side with less players when I enter a MP session. Well, in DCS World, where I've only been online in MP sessions 4 times during last week, after more than a year with the sim installed on my rig, I confess I will like to be able to use the Dora! A 109 would also be great to have, and a Spitfire!!! A Hurricane!!!! well.... Flight Simulation is the Virtual Materialization of a Dream...
NeilWillis Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 But those are the engineers that lost the war. :P I'll give them credit for putting gun on the nose and for making them higher caliber cannons. My aim is so bad with the P-51 I might stick with the 190 until I get rudder pedals. Unless of course nose mounted guns and significantly stronger shells don't help me at all. Engineers do not decide strategy, it was the two fronts that cost Germany a place in the finals of WW2, not the quality of its equipment.
ShuRugal Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Engineers do not decide strategy, it was the two fronts that cost Germany a place in the finals of WW2, not the quality of its equipment. that and their manufacturing capabilities. If they had been able to crank out Panzer 4s and Tigers as the same rate the Allies produced Shermans and T-34s....
Mnemonic Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Would be cool to have some soviet plane with such deep modelling, like IL-2 or even better Yak-3.
SAM77 Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 German Engineering is massively over-hyped. Just look at the Panther, lots of armor, mobility and firepower. Yet, even the later models had operational rates of less than 50%. If it cant make it the fight, it may as well not exist. The allies had plenty of engineering marvels off their own in ww2. It is a nonsensical myth that the Nazi's had better tech than everyone else. Load of crap!!!! BMW & Mercedes anyday over any of your American Iron. They did amazing things with huge handicaps. Without such restrictions they dominate!!!!!!! Spoiler Intel i7 14700F | 64GB G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB | MSI RTX 4060 Gaming X 8G | WD Black SN770 2TB | Sound Blaster Audigy RX | MSI B760 Tomahawk WIFI | Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS Flight Pack | TrackIR 5 | Windows 11 Home |
gavagai Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 that and their manufacturing capabilities. If they had been able to crank out Panzer 4s and Tigers as the same rate the Allies produced Shermans and T-34s.... Politics made murdering their forced labor a higher priority than winning the war. In essence, they destroyed their own manufacturing base in the service of ideology. B-17s and B-24s only helped them along. :noexpression: P-51D | Fw 190D-9 | Bf 109K-4 | Spitfire Mk IX | P-47D | WW2 assets pack | F-86 | Mig-15 | Mig-21 | Mirage 2000C | A-10C II | F-5E | F-16 | F/A-18 | Ka-50 | Combined Arms | FC3 | Nevada | Normandy | Straight of Hormuz | Syria
Flagrum Posted June 29, 2014 Posted June 29, 2014 Guys .... why did I start the new thread "German engineering" (see posting #32 of this thread) if you still continue the off topic debate here?
mjmorrow Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Hmm, well I am thinking of getting the Dora, Sabre, Fishbed, or no DCS plane, this Summer. If I get the Dora, I will start out with the Dora. If I don't get the Dora, I already own the Mustang and I can use the Mustang. :thumbup: [sIGPIC]http://i688.photobucket.com/albums/vv250/mjmorrow76/SPAD%20of%20a%20new%20generation_zpshcbftpce.png[/sIGPIC]
leafer Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Dora because of its nose cannons and I like exotic looking air planes. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Pandacat Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 German Engineering. :thumbup: Hey remember, RL FW190 might be a marvel of German Engineering, but DCS is undoubtedly a product of genius Russian Engineering. And doesn't matter how alienish the actual Dora might fly, if DCS models it a stall fest then it's a stall fest you will get. I bet people will bitchmourn about FMs when their favorite planes fly different from their existing biased experience, but ED will tell them "shut up unless you have flown the real plane" :lol:
Pandacat Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Dora because of its nose cannons and I like exotic looking air planes. I thought D9 has 2 center lined wing cannons and 2 mg on top of the engine.
otto Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Honestly i would have prefered a FW A-8.Not that i don't like the D-9.
Pandacat Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Honestly i would have prefered a FW A-8.Not that i don't like the D-9. I seconded that. I love the 4 cannon setup, feels like carrying a broadsword. It's also historically more accurate to have a8 than d9. Performance wise, A-8 is not an underdog at all. However, the key issue here is whether ED has enough reliable technical data on A-8.
LcSummers Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Oh shit, i love all the planes made by ED. So i will fly them all when available but as Sith wrote it down, i need the right environment with all stuff on it. Yes cant wait for the EDGE Normandy too
eurofor Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 Dora, until the Kurfürst is released :joystick: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
LcSummers Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 I thought D9 has 2 center lined wing cannons and 2 mg on top of the engine. It depends wich Dora he means. The D-12 and D-13 had an enginemounted cannon. The D-11 had two 2cm and two 3cm cannons on the wings. Yes the D-9 had two 13-mm-MG-131 (top) and two MG 151/20 cannons in wingroots.
ED Team NineLine Posted June 30, 2014 ED Team Posted June 30, 2014 I seconded that. I love the 4 cannon setup, feels like carrying a broadsword. It's also historically more accurate to have a8 than d9. Performance wise, A-8 is not an underdog at all. However, the key issue here is whether ED has enough reliable technical data on A-8. I would love to see an A-8 at some point, I think there is plenty of info out there to do it. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Der_Fred Posted June 30, 2014 Posted June 30, 2014 The FW190 is always my specialty. I'll wait a bit until all (most) of the problems are ironed out. :-)
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