"DCS STOPPED RESPONDING"

[Maximus_Lazarus]

How can i fix this !!!~:mad::mad:

[sobek]

Not by rageposting.

 

Give us a proper crash report and the community can do something about it.

[159th_Viper]

How can i fix this !!!~:mad::mad:

 

A good place to start is to tell us exactly what is the matter. See the following threads as to how:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=88164

 

Another thing not mentioned specifically:

 

When reporting any Error/Crash/Fluffball/Delusion of Grandeur etc etc, ensure that all reports are based on a Vanilla, Unmodded install.

[Maximus_Lazarus]

# -------------- 20140705-092459 --------------

 

# C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at F3E849F1 00:00000000

00000000 00000000 0000:00000000

F3E849F1 002DEB70 0000:00000000 ?CreateZMultisample8X@DXMultisampleTarget@Graphics@@SAPEAVResource@@W4ResourceType@@AEBV?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@ed@@@std@@@Z()+111

E54D98D6 002DEC30 0000:00000000 ?UsedThisFrame@Resource@@UEAAXXZ()+2ED6

E2993355 002DED30 0000:00000000 ?StartInterface@SceneManager_Implement@@UEAAXPEAUHWND__@@@Z()+2E5

E2989191 002DEDA0 0000:00000000 ??0SceneManager_Implement@@QEAA@PEAUHWND__@@@Z()+5F1

E298A991 002DEDE0 0000:00000000 ?CreateSceneManager@smSceneManager@@SAXPEAUHWND__@@@Z()+31

3FCE96DF 002DEEB0 0000:00000000

3FCE9276 002DEF20 0000:00000000

3FCE782F 002DF1E0 0000:00000000

E576D8DF 002DF210 0000:00000000 ?onSymbol_@FSM@Common@@AEAAXI@Z()+18F

3FCEAE8F 002DF270 0000:00000000

3FDA5E6F 002DF2E0 0000:00000000

3FDA6666 002DF900 0000:00000000

3FDA96B0 002DF940 0000:00000000

771B59ED 002DF970 0001:000149ED C:\Windows\system32\kernel32.dll BaseThreadInitThunk()+D

773EC541 002DF9C0 0001:0002B541 C:\Windows\SYSTEM32\ntdll.dll RtlUserThreadStart()+21

 

It's an "access violation"

[Flagrum]

• Are your graphics card drivers up to date?
  
• What is your hardware setup (--> DxDiag report?)
  
• When does the crash happen? Immediately when clicking "fly"? When something specific happens (i.e. when certain graphic effects are rendered?)
  
• What are your graphics settings in DCS? What happens if you change the MSAA settings?
  

[Abburo]

It's an "access violation"

 

:D

 

It's a hardware fault ! :smartass:

[Maximus_Lazarus]

really ??

[sobek]

Your leg is in the process of being pulled.

 

Cmon gents, be more constructive.

[Maximus_Lazarus]

• Are your graphics card drivers up to date?
  
• What is your hardware setup (--> DxDiag report?)
  
• When does the crash happen? Immediately when clicking "fly"? When something specific happens (i.e. when certain graphic effects are rendered?)
  
• What are your graphics settings in DCS? What happens if you change the MSAA settings?
  

 

Many times, my game will crash when i get hit .

 

Or exit the game.

 

Exit a running track.

 

Basically anything that halts the current operation.

 

I could try running no overclock, maybe it helps, no problems running Prime95 or any other program though

[Winfield_Gold]

:D

 

It's a hardware fault ! :smartass:

 

It seems you may be right.

 

Someone else is reporting a similar issue and is putting it down to the joystick not being compatible

 

http://steamcommunity.com/app/223750/discussions/0/540742667706718747/

 

Try deleting or renaming your C:\username\saved games\DCS folder and restarting the game. It should create a new DCS folder and new files. See if that helps

[karambiatos]

win7 or win8, running with admin rights or not admin rights?

 

when you crash open the extended crash report (little arroow on the stopped responding window) and say what .dll is causing it.

 

do you have any weird mods running?

[sobek]

I could try running no overclock, maybe it helps, no problems running Prime95 or any other program though

 

That would be a starting point.

 

If you have a track that will reliably cause the crash, you could also try it with all peripherals disconnected. If that solves it, reconnect them one by one until you have the culprit.

 

Don't try everything at once though, that will make it easier to pinpoint the problem.

[BitMaster]

Maximus_Lazarus,

 

the most important point in finding errors in PC systems is to have a fifty-fifty method of trial and error:

 

Depending on what you try to track down, always try to EXCLUDE as many possible causes as possible with what you do early in your research. This way you safe a lot of time and frustration.

 

What I would do if I was consulted for this:

 

A: Run Prime95 again, check settings and have your RAM used as much as possible. What temps do you reach ? How much RAM is used/unused. Then, test the same with MAX CPU usage and MAX TEMP settings. Let the test fun for at least 2-3h, 5 minutes will often not show the error.

 

B: Download memtestx86 and burn the ISO or use any Ubuntu/SuSE Live Linux and choose memtest at the boot-prompt. It is a far superior test in finding RAM errors in systems with more RAM than Prime95 usually addresses. Have that test running for a few hours, again..5 minute tests don't say much

 

C: Do you have ANY other hardcore APP/GAME that can stress your PC ? How does it behave playing BF4 or any other high load application. Any glitches with other software may point to non-DCS problems.

 

D: Clean your PC ! Dust is a #1 killer !!!! ( Maybe this should be #1 to exclude this right away )

 

E: Start as sleek as you can, disconnect ANYTHING, inside and outside the PC to start with: Scanner, printer, joystick, throttle, rudder, 2nd screen, camera...also, if you know what you are doing, try taking parts out of your PC or disconnect them. Any HD not needed, DVD drives, USB-MultiFunction Readers, change your mouse, change your keyboard if possible.

IF your system has plenty RAM ( like 16GB or more ), try taking RAM modules out and try with each module, DCS and any RAM test. Sometimes the RAM is OK but the mobo/PSU fails supporting it with enough juice. Module by module is the game's name here.

 

F: If you still can't find it and if you have the option of installing a fresh Windows OS, do that.

If you have an empty drive, connect it and disconn all others, install Vanilla Windows and Updates, install DCS-Vanilla and try again. Apply ALL MS-Updates prior to installing DCS.

 

 

It's a pain to troubleshoot such errors... hell I know

 

 

Bit

Edited July 5, 2014 by BitMaster

[BitMaster]

forget this:

 

depending on your Video card, try different versions of your driver, older and newer beta ones.

Most of my BSODs in the past years were NV bound and came and went away by changing drivers. Also, do the same with your sound card, though this is a lot harder to do since Audio drivers don't have such a short half-life and usually you only have a few to choose from. One way to do it is maybe to disable onboard Audio and/or take the add-on Audio card out temporarily for testing.

[Maximus_Lazarus]

ok i'll try it.

 

thx

[Maximus_Lazarus]

i am getting SEIROUSLY angry now

 

Can't properly alt_tab out of the game, as it DISAPPEARS from my task bar, and to get back in i need to open up TASK MANAGER

 

Computer needs a REBOOT whenever i crash , or do ANYTHING

 

And what's up with the idiotic loading screen, why does it need to get OUT of the game to load anytyhing ?

 

BETA

[BitMaster]

May I ask how much RAM you have in that particular system and are you SSD driven or magnetic platter ?

 

Reason: When the game stops aka reverts to Desktop or DCS-Main-Window it needs to offload a lot of data and even with 16GB and SSD this NOT ALWAYS works for many players as stated in many threads....

I sometimes have to wait a LONG time until a mission unloads and an estimated 30-50% of the time the game crashes... which is not caused by any Hardware failure or such.

 

Bit

[BitMaster]

And what's up with the idiotic loading screen, why does it need to get OUT of the game to load anytyhing ?

 

BETA

 

 

If I understand that right, the reason is that DCS uses different executables for the GUI/Main Window and the actual Game itself. That is why the GUI-exe is terminated and a the game gets loaded. This is really cool, cause it cools you GFX card. The actual Main-GUI afaik is 2-D and doesn't need to stress your 3D card while doing many hours in the Mission Planner etc..

 

Though I might be wrong with the 2D thing, the Devs for sure know it exactly.

 

 

Bit

[Maximus_Lazarus]

Went back a driver installation. It's the only thing i can think of that has changed lately.

[karambiatos]

i am getting SEIROUSLY angry now

 

Can't properly alt_tab out of the game, as it DISAPPEARS from my task bar, and to get back in i need to open up TASK MANAGER

 

Computer needs a REBOOT whenever i crash , or do ANYTHING

 

And what's up with the idiotic loading screen, why does it need to get OUT of the game to load anytyhing ?

 

BETA

you dont need task manager, hold alt, and tab to DCS, its one of those new thing ED will probably never get around to fixing

[Abburo]

Maximus, did DCS worked for you previously? Does this started to happened suddenly? Is anything hardware/software changed to your PC suddenly.

 

I really suspect you have an hardware issue. Is you power supply healthy and able to give all current output to your PC. Sometime small things generates big results. What USB devices have you connected?

 

And try be more verbose. If you just throw an angry phrase our patience will become short soon.

Edited July 5, 2014 by Abburo

[cichlidfan]

Your system specs have been requested multiple times. If you really want some help, you might consider providing them.

[Maximus_Lazarus]

I7 3770K

GTX 680's (sli)

8 GB of RAM

Samsung 840 (something) SSD

 

I went back to an older nvidia driver , first time i died, my game did not crash

 

Second time i died (thankfully some hours later) , my game crashed AGAIN.

 

So the reverting to older graphic driver did nothing. I also get no problems while flying, it never crashes then.

 

Only when something happens, especially dying.

Also happens when

-server changes mission.

-I quit the game

- I quit a track

- Change planes

 

Anythging that will take me out of the vehicle basically, makes the game crash (stops responding, freezes)

 

I tried this "repair" thing . Didn't help. The game crashes BEFORE i see my death message. Maybe that helps in figuring out what exactly is happening when one gets out of the plane.

 

Want to hear a funny thing ? My tracks seem to be working excellent now though , it's so weird. I can watch 4 hour tracks at 4x speed without issues. -_-

 

I am considering a fresh windows install though, it's been , ... a year or two now . I just hate doing that so much

When this track is done cooking, i'm gonna leave prime running for the night, see what's up .

Edited July 5, 2014 by Maximus_Lazarus

[NineLine]

Does seem to be something on your end, but in the future, including logs, tracks and system specs in your original post will go a long way....

 

If you include a crash track others can watch and see if it ends with the same crash for them.

[BitMaster]

Lazarus,

 

from what I read it sounds like too little RAM to offload the game despite 8GB "usually" are enough to run the game.

 

What else is hogging RAM while you play ? Any other SW running that steals RAM ?

 

The thing that it usually "only" crashes when you die makes me believe the game has a problem switching from one EXE to the other, not uncommon for DCS, happens to many guys. Just that you have it like 99% of when you die makes me wonder what could steal RAM etc... make it harder for the game to switch ?

 

How much free DiskSpace do you have ?

How much Virtual Memory have you allocated ? ( manual settings, automatic.. etc.. lower/upper limit )

 

Provide some more guts and bones ;)

 

 

Bit