Landing on US Carrier is impossible

[Foxbeard]

Hey there,

I was working on the texture and lights model of a carier I found in the web some time ago. (I think it was originally Tamcatz model).

 

When I finished my work, I tried to land on the carrier, many times with no succes. I am working with the 1.2.7. version, and I have a feeling that it is some kind of bug.

 

The problem is:

I come down on the deck with correct speed, correct position and angle. But then it feels like I am getting pushed into the air like a flummy. After that the hook isn´t lowerd anymore, so there was a reaction with the hook.

 

When I am trying to land on the Russion carrier, everything is working fine.

 

Anyone, who had the same problem and solved it? Maybe there is something in the lua file which needs to be corrected.

 

Thanks for every help.

 

 

By the way, this is how the carrier looks now:

 

 

[NeilWillis]

The carrier looks excellent. Here's hoping the landing issue can be resolved.

[joey45]

What aircraft and what mod?

[Foxbeard]

What aircraft and what mod?

 

I tried it with different ones. I also tried it with the su-33. In the end it was always the same result. the hook is not able to stop the plane. It gets pushed back in the air.

[joey45]

Well... No US Planes that are flyable [by deafult] are currntly avalible to land on the carrier, Only the 33 is.

 

So is it a bug.........?

[Cibit]

I thought the landing was scripted

[Foxbeard]

Well... No US Planes that are flyable [by deafult] are currntly avalible to land on the carrier, Only the 33 is.

 

There are no flyable default US Naval planes in the game, that´s right, but I created different mods. I managed to land them on the russian carrier with no problems.

 

So my suspicion is that it has something to do with the US carrier.

 

I also tried to land on the default Vinson. Same same. Even with the su-33!

Edited July 12, 2014 by Foxbeard

[Foxbeard]

I thought the landing was scripted

 

Hey do you think that this script can be edited? And where is it located?

[Foxbeard]

I couldn´t manage it to land on the carrier so far,

 

I think it has something to do with the script. Maybe there is noch such thing for the US carrier, which causes these problems.

 

Anyways, If somebody is interrested in this mod, I made it ready to download here:

 

http://www.mediafire.com/download/pxw17y64b9u0l42/VINSON.rar

 

 

There are two different edm in the zip. One is with an empty deck the other one is filled up with some Hornets. If the night Textures are to bright for you, you should open the file:CVN-"77_CarrierNightLIGHTS_1" and reduce the brightness of the Alpha-channel.

 

I am using Sweet fx, which makes the night very dark, thats why the lights might be a bit too bright for users without sweetFX

 

Here are some more pix.

 

Have fun with it and let me know If you could handle a landing on it :)

 

Cheers and props to tomcatz who made the 3d model!

FB

 

 

[Cibit]

Hi well done. Have you tried landing choppers on it yet?

 

Also I am unsure where you would find the script for carrier landings but I recall reading about it once. Sorry I could not help more

[VincentLaw]

I can confirm this bug. I have tried landing on the US carrier with the Su-33, an F-18 mod, and an F-4 mod. All three airplanes get bounced back into the air as soon as the hook catches. Landing on the US carrier with a hook is impossible.

 

If I had to guess, I would say the cable force is simply oriented the wrong direction and pushes the player up instead of backwards.

[Foxbeard]

I can confirm this bug. I have tried landing on the US carrier with the Su-33, an F-18 mod, and an F-4 mod. All three airplanes get bounced back into the air as soon as the hook catches. Landing on the US carrier with a hook is impossible.

 

If I had to guess, I would say the cable force is simply oriented the wrong direction and pushes the player up instead of backwards.

 

 

Yes, I have the same suspicion. Do you think there is a way to edit the script? I checked the carriers lua. but there is nothing about the landing except the position of the cables and the landing point.

 

I found some videos in the net were people land with the f-18 mod, so it was possible back in the days. Strange move from dcs team to make it impossible for now.

[xentxo]

[diveplane]

I thought the landing was scripted

 

landing is scripted for now , until the Russian planes get full flight model code.

[diveplane]

I couldn´t manage it to land on the carrier so far,

 

I think it has something to do with the script. Maybe there is noch such thing for the US carrier, which causes these problems.

 

Anyways, If somebody is interrested in this mod, I made it ready to download here:

 

http://www.mediafire.com/download/pxw17y64b9u0l42/VINSON.rar

 

 

There are two different edm in the zip. One is with an empty deck the other one is filled up with some Hornets. If the night Textures are to bright for you, you should open the file:CVN-"77_CarrierNightLIGHTS_1" and reduce the brightness of the Alpha-channel.

 

I am using Sweet fx, which makes the night very dark, thats why the lights might be a bit too bright for users without sweetFX

 

Here are some more pix.

 

Have fun with it and let me know If you could handle a landing on it :)

 

Cheers and props to tomcatz who made the 3d model!

FB

 

 

 

thx for making a empty carrier as well, nice work.

[Foxbeard]

landing is scripted for now , until the Russian planes get full flight model code.

 

But the question is if it is possible to add the script from the russian carrier to the us carrier.

[Foxbeard]

It seem like I am fighting a bit on my own here, but I still want to inform you about the status.

 

First thing is I made a little progress. I made a landing on the US carrier. But there is still soemthing from.

 

Check the screenshot:

 

 

What I did is, I changend in the nimitz.lua these parameters, which are the last sentences in the file:

 

GT.attribute = {wsType_Navy,wsType_Ship,wsType_AirCarrier,Kuznecow,

"Aircraft Carriers",

"cord",

"ski_jump",

"RADAR_BAND1_FOR_ARM",

};

GT.Categories = {

{name = "AircraftCarrier"},

{name = "AircraftCarrier With Tramplin"},

{name = "Armed Ship"},

};

 

I copied the Kuznecow files and pasted them here.

 

So the landing worked. but it seems that the script for the carrier Landing also influences the position of the plane. The Kuznecow has a lower height, thats why the plane sinks under the deck.

[Aginor]

Hmmm... What if you just try to give the carrier 2 meters more draft than it normally has, so the flight deck has the same level as the russian one, just for testing purposes, to see whether it works correctly then.

 

I wouldn't mind if you get it working that way. That would be awesome.

[crazyeddie]

I have been using these Tomcatz mod's for a long time now with a few annoying aircraft parking problems, but not this one.

 

Everything seems to work fine AI for me, I used the Som and Kilo as hosts for The Bush and Loaning, had to change a few things in the lua files and the lod distances but overall they look and work great in AI.

 

I'm assuming you are having this problem when you are flying the aircraft yourself, not AI ?

 

I have not tried that, will give it a go and let you know if I my setup makes any difference.

[Foxbeard]

Hmmm... What if you just try to give the carrier 2 meters more draft than it normally has, so the flight deck has the same level as the russian one, just for testing purposes, to see whether it works correctly then.

 

I wouldn't mind if you get it working that way. That would be awesome.

 

Feel free to try it and let me know if it worked.

[SkateZilla]

wouldn't be surprised if the current CVN Model/data LUA/DLLs/Scripts were not correctly setup for user Landing / interaction.

[NRG-Vampire]

iirc there was a mod/correction by HungaroJET: iirc he corrected the collison model both for tomcatz's carrier and for ed's vinson model, he fixed the landing zone bug and the surfaces of elevators bug maybe

[Guest ZORG]

Use static as the carrier.....

Edited July 16, 2014 by ZORG

[Aginor]

Feel free to try it and let me know if it worked.

 

Unfortunately I can't, I have not the slightest clue about DCSW modding.

[Foxbeard]

Use static as the carrier.....

 

thanks for the tip,

 

but I´ve started to skip this carrier, and started the work on a new 3D modell.

 

Check it out:

Edited July 19, 2014 by Foxbeard