Edge support for 32bit systems

[Grim_Smiles]

Instead of pre-built you can get more efficient computer for less money by building it yourself.

 

This^^^ Consider learning to build one yourself. Not hard to do as you might think, biggest thing in my opinion is making sure the components you buy are compatible with each other. Make sure you are grounded before handling components. If you need help on something there are plenty of support forums and youtube tutorials. I would have spent more money for my PC if I bought it online or paid someone to assemble it, was much cheaper just to do it myself. Once I knew what I was going to put inside, I then shopped around and looked for deals.

[Home Fries]

Oh, I appreciate all of the advice. I do. Given the fact that my computer is already seven or eight years old, with a Core 2 Duo processor and all, I am just better off saving up money, instead of upgrading my current rig. In a year or so, I should be able to get a computer, for $500 to $700, that should be able to handle my flight sim hobby needs for 8 to 10 years time. In the mean time, I hope that I will be able to play with my Sabre in single player or maybe in multiplayer, after Edge comes out. If I can't, then I can apply the money I would have spent on the Mig-21bis, Fw-190, and Mig-15bis, toward the purchase price of the new computer. Still, I really appreciate all of the advice. :thumbup:

 

Here's a thought: if you're going to build a PC from scratch, you'll need Windows 7 or 8 anyway. If you have more than 4GB of RAM, you might as well get the x64 version now. This way you'll at least be able to get on multiplayer servers and even with a Core 2 Duo you should get decent enough frames with minimum detail settings. Depending on what kind of videocard you have determines whether you'll be able to use EDGE when it is released, but at least getting the operating system out of the way will be one cost that you won't have to incur in the future upgrade.

 

If you don't have the RAM, I recommend going back to 1.2.5 and getting the modules after upgrading your system.

[blkspade]

Even if it is 'ancient', your core 2 duo should still be 64-bit compatible. Though an OS upgrade to 64-bit would only be worthwhile if the computer already has at least 4GB. It probably wouldn't be economically feasible to invest in additional DDR2 if the system has only 2-3GB of ram. Although 2GB sticks/4gb kits are somewhat cheap.

[agrasyuk]

Nothing wrong with keeping classic/ legacy systems. Nothing wrong with not having unlimited funds for constant upgrades. Expecting modern applications to be kept compatible with legacy hardware however is at least naive. Especially computation heavy and inherently unefficient as DCSW.

[WRAITH]

Classic........... LoL

 

My first PC Looked like this................

 

 

Owning a Compaq 386 then a 486 then Pentium II so forth playing games like Lemmings, 1941, Rygar, Dungeons and Dragons, then moving over to sims Janes USAF/ F-18 Falcon you name it! :D

 

Now I'm into gaming again I'm tweaking for better GFX and Performance and research for a better PC in a year or so.

 

WoW yeah how far things have gone.

 

Cheers,

 

:beer:

Edited August 18, 2014 by WRAITH

[genbrien]

for $500 to $700, that should be able to handle my flight sim hobby needs for 8 to 10 years time.

 

I would like to have the same stuff you smoke please :thumbup::music_whistling:

[Home Fries]

I would like to have the same stuff you smoke please :thumbup::music_whistling:

With the exception of a graphics card, you can pretty much get hardware now that will be viable for that long. You expect to upgrade your graphics card every few years (and I always get at least a generation behind cutting edge) and perhaps add RAM/HD space, but a good processor/mobo combo can last.

[WRAITH]

PC Gaming Systems

 

Hi all,

 

A PC gamer normally will upgrade his PC between 1-5 years and most systems can be stretched out 7 years or so.

 

I always skip a MS Windows version and upgrade a GFX Card for $250.00 instead and maybe add memory if I have available slots to stretch out my system.

 

I also run a small home network as kids have PC as well sharing printers and what not.

 

Now you dont really have to keep up with the Jones as per say, you may build around a current selection of Flight Sims that interest you and keep your build light only for Flight Simming based on the recommended systems requirements.

 

Some gents just have an old box running MS Windows XP just for Falcon 4.0 sims.

 

So its more of what you want out of it as a hobby, but being a PC Gamer is not a cheap hobby to be fair, you still have joysticks, headgear, cameras etc

 

Some suggestions though for new Gaming PC System..............

 

Link:- http://www.alienware.com.au/

 

Link:- http://www.originpc.com.au/

 

Link:- http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

 

If gents allow $1,500min or $4,500 max budget every few years you will have good system!

 

You dont have to spend a fortune just good planning!

 

Trust me!

 

________________________________________________

 

Now to further add info to thread here are some info and options.

 

Computer Systems

 

A Must Watch:

 

 

 

 

My four PC Extreme Gaming System Recommendations:-

 

 

1./ Intel Extreme Motherboards ( THE BEST - VERY FAST ) :- http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/motherboards.html

 

 

2./ ASUS Ati/AMD GFX-Card: - http://www.asus.com/au/Graphics_Cards/

 

 

3./ Cooler Master Full Tower Case:- http://www.coolermaster.com/product/Lines/full-tower/

 

 

4.. RAM City:- http://www.ramcity.com.au/

 

- These Guy's are really good and professional they know whats best for your system in regards to performance, quality, reliability and stability, they do there homework and under stand the industry. My 100% approval for your trouble shooting, upgrades and purchases.

 

 

Worth Watching:-

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*** Intel's Youtube Channel:- http://www.youtube.com/user/channelintel?feature=watch

 

 

I am Sold to the Performance and Quality of Intel Motherboards and Processors. The Best in the Market in my opinion its what I buy for every build I make!

 

Also comes with a 3 Year Warranty.

 

 

Well I hop all this helps and Ii'm sure ED-DCS will update their "Recommended PC Specifications" after Update 2.0.0 with new GFX Engine EDGE Ver 4 so keep an eye out on those details on Forum or Front page!

 

I also believe its time to make PC Hardware and Software cheaper through the years pricing has increased as well as demand for Home PCs almost in every room there is at least a Tablet in household so, time for pricing to go down whilst maintaining good quality.

 

Cheers,

 

:beer:

Edited August 19, 2014 by WRAITH

[marluk]

Recently I spent 400$ just on graphics card. And it is low-medium class. I don't think it will last decade. Not even close.

I won't write here how much I have spent on TM Warthog, Track IR and Crosswind pedals because my wife could read it.:doh:.

[mjmorrow]

Classic........... LoL

 

My first PC Looked like this................

 

 

Owning a Compaq 386 then a 486 then Pentium II so forth playing games like Lemmings, 1941, Rygar, Dungeons and Dragons, then moving over to sims Janes USAF/ F-18 Falcon you name it! :D

 

Now I'm into gaming again I'm tweaking for better GFX and Performance and research for a better PC in a year or so.

 

WoW yeah how far things have gone.

 

Cheers,

 

:beer:

 

Nice! :thumbup:That looks like the kind of computer I used in school, as a little kid, when we were learning Logo and trying to move that dang turtle around. :megalol:

[aeliusg]

Recently I spent 400$ just on graphics card. And it is low-medium class. I don't think it will last decade. Not even close.

I won't write here how much I have spent on TM Warthog, Track IR and Crosswind pedals because my wife could read it.:doh:.

 

Your wife reads these forums? Maybe you can get her flying, too. :thumbup:

[SkateZilla]

Hi all,

 

A PC gamer normally will upgrade his PC between 1-5 years and most systems can be stretched out 7 years or so.

 

My Current system if I add the invoices up, is over $5800.

 

Nothing has been replaced, only added/upgraded. Which is why I run 3 GPUs up to 6 screens, 2 Power Supplies (850w+700w)

 

And I’m about to upgrade and replace the H100 w/ a $500 custom loop plus 3x $100 Waterblocks.

Might also be customizing a Wide HAF922 Case (2 HAF922s Welded together), to get more room for more radiators and Power Supplies.

 

My old system was $1500 from iBuyPower but built up with $1000 more in hardware once delivered, and lasted from 2005-2011ish.

 

This one will only last me until AMD's New CPU Architechture is released w/ DDR4, PCIe3.0 and New GPUs with Enough Display Ports and Bridgeless Crossfire (R9-3xx Likely).

Edited August 19, 2014 by SkateZilla

[WRAITH]

PC Gaming Systems

 

My Current system if I add the invoices up, is over $5800.

 

Nothing has been replaced, only added/upgraded. Which is why I run 3 GPUs up to 6 screens, 2 Power Supplies (850w+700w)

 

And I’m about to upgrade and replace the H100 w/ a $500 custom loop plus 3x $100 Waterblocks.

Might also be customizing a Wide HAF922 Case (2 HAF922s Welded together), to get more room for more radiators and Power Supplies.

 

My old system was $1500 from iBuyPower but built up with $1000 more in hardware once delivered, and lasted from 2005-2011ish.

 

This one will only last me until AMD's New CPU Architechture is released w/ DDR4, PCIe3.0 and New GPUs with Enough Display Ports and Bridgeless Crossfire (R9-3xx Likely).

 

Hi bud,

 

Well thats just EXTREEEEEEEEEEME" LoL Nice build! :thumbup:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I spent $4800 on mine personally!

 

But my point is you dont need to go that far to enjoy games or sims!

 

 

Its all about what each person can do with $$$$$$ but to point out again a low end gaming build starting at $1500.00 will suffice for a good 7 years, Fact!

 

Because I have built systems for people I know in spare time, so if your budget is limited or simply wish to be conservative it can be done for $1,500 as an entry gaming build.

 

I know Cali a member here built a nice smart case for just a tad over $1,500 I believe to enjoy sims only!

 

Although I do believe "Hardware and Software" prices need to come down in pricing as most households have at least one tablet in each room, considering most people now have XBOX and PS4 gaming also, its become to expensive to keep up with gaming trend and tech these days.

 

Well take care folks!

 

Cheers,

 

:beer:

Edited August 20, 2014 by WRAITH

[uboats]

no titan no happiness

[mjmorrow]

I might swing a rig in the $700 to $800 range by October-ish, but I am not spending more money on a rig. I figure that I can get a computer that will end up on low settings, by the end of seven to ten years time. That is cool, by me. Low settings, in ten years, will be the high settings of today. :thumbup:

 

I will see. I am on the fence about getting a rig, so soon. I was hoping to squeeze more time out of my current rig. Hey, I make breakfast on a cast iron pan that has been in my family for over one hundred years. :megalol:

 

Just as long as I have a new rig by 2015 and the introduction of the Mig-15bis. I really want to sim-fly the F-86F and Mig-15bis in multiplayer. I want to do so on decent graphics settings, too. :smilewink:

[Home Fries]

If this is your first time building your own PC, you'll want to spend that much without even considering the graphics card.

 

You need a good case that is large and expandable (Cooler Master is excellent), and that will cost between $150-200. Don't cheap out on the case, especially if you want longevity. For power supply, figure out what you'll need (I recommend at least 700W for a gaming rig, though I run 850 myself), but there are plenty of sales for good power supplies.

 

Next, get yourself a good gaming motherboard that can handle plenty of hard drives, preferably both SLI and Crossfire capable. It doesn't cost much more to get a good gaming motherboard than your basic motherboard (you can find a decent motherboard for $160 or so on sale), and this also adds to longevity (provided there is no new chipset architecture introduced shortly after). A gaming motherboard should allow you to overclock fairly easily, which will also help extend the viability of the PC.

 

Get at least 16Gb of RAM; 8Gb will not get you through another 7 years. If you only want 8Gb right now and your motherboard chipset can handle it, be sure to get 2x4Gb DIMMs so you can expand to 16Gb later. I'd just go with 16 though because RAM is not that expensive right now.

 

For a CPU, I'd go with an i5 personally. Some people will say to go with the i7 for the hyperthreading, but the i5 to me hits the performance/price sweet spot. Make sure the i5 you get can be overclocked. Also, get a good cooling system; the Cooler Master 212 Hyper Plus is a low priced air-cooling system that does as well as many entry-level water-cooling systems.

 

That should eat your budget without even discussing hard drives or video cards. For now, you can use your existing hard drives, though I recommend getting a SSD for your operating system and high-access programs (like DCS) as soon as practical. Prices have come down, and depending on how you use your PC determines how big of a SSD you need, but you should be able to find a decent one for around $100 on sale.

 

Finally, the video card. Save this for last, because this is the one piece that realistically will not last you 7 years. If you buy top of the line hoping it will last you, you would be better served buying a mid-grade card now and saving that money for another mid-grade card 3 years down the road. Buying a video card for the long haul is a losing proposition. I run a GTX660 that I purchased for around $200 18 months ago, and I can run DCS at high settings (though I don't use antialiasing) with 30+ frames (using vsync). The 460 I had before that still runs DCS well on medium settings and should be the min-spec for EDGE. Also, if you have a SLI/Crossfire compatible motherboard you can keep the old videocard either to run additional monitors or as a dedicated PhysX engine (I don't figure you for actually using SLI as it isn't very economical).

 

Hope this helps.

Edited August 20, 2014 by Home Fries

[SkateZilla]

HAF922s and stuff are under $100 now.