Gamja Field Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 Hello, I have a little suggestion about current gun smoke graphics. I just bought Sabre and realized that it has same awful looking gun smoke from P-51 module. (Perhaps other modules like A-10C or FC3 has a same problem??) I can understand the amount and thickness of smoke coming out from gun fire, but what makes it really awful is that the length of smoke is very short so when I stops firing, it looks like the remains of smoke just stays on the point when I stopped firing like a stationary object(cloud). Below is a comparison to other combat flight sim. Not that I'm saying that other sim has a perfect effect, but at least they doesn't have a thick and cloud like smoke from DCS series. Hope you guys fix this issue on upcoming update. :pilotfly:
B25Mitch Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 Yes, it's awful. I believe ED's policy is to upgrade one particle effect per year - let's hope this one is next :smilewink:
Sceptre Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 When EDGE come, it will possibly be upgraded RTX 2070 8GB | 32GB DDR4 2666 RAM | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 4.2Ghz | Asrock X570 | CH Fighterstick/Pro Throttle | TM MFDs | TrackIR 5
NRG-Vampire Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) When EDGE come, it will possibly be upgraded yes, hopefully imho the worst part of that gun smoke effect is the "glued" smoke to the fuselage/muzzle while we pushing the trigger (after we released the trigger the smoke drops of from muzzles and remains/stays in the sky) Below is a comparison to other combat flight sim. by the way, what was the second sim in the ^ video ? (that got a perfect looking gun smoke effect imho) IL2 Battle of Stalingrad ? as i see, War Thunder also got nice smoke effect Edited October 19, 2014 by NRG-Vampire
kripzoo Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Well generally at the moment all the DCS World particle effects are awful except the wing tip vapour :thumbup: I wish we had at least a new contrail effect when EDGE arrives... But i think im just too optimistic :music_whistling: BTW the artist who designs all the effects should look at example the current il2 46 hsfx particle effects wich are great even the game is very old... Edited October 19, 2014 by kripzoo
Gamja Field Posted October 19, 2014 Author Posted October 19, 2014 by the way, what was the second sim in the ^ video ? (that got a perfect looking gun smoke effect imho) IL2 Battle of Stalingrad ? Yes. It's a IL-2 BoS
Solty Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 Ineed this smoke is annoying... but out of all issues I would rather point at poor optimisation (Lag when people fire their guns), although they might be connected... or not :P But the biggest issue that is in DCS is the Damage Model. It is arcade style awful. Even the first IL2 had better. DCS wants to be the best sim out there... they need to step up their game within DM departament. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]In 21st century there is only war and ponies. My experience: Jane's attack squadron, IL2 for couple of years, War Thunder and DCS. My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyAXX9rAX_Sqdc0IKJuv6dA
Gamja Field Posted October 19, 2014 Author Posted October 19, 2014 Ineed this smoke is annoying... but out of all issues I would rather point at poor optimisation (Lag when people fire their guns), although they might be connected... or not :P But the biggest issue that is in DCS is the Damage Model. It is arcade style awful. Even the first IL2 had better. DCS wants to be the best sim out there... they need to step up their game within DM departament. I agree with you on DM. Old IL-2 has better DM compare to DCS and BoS(At least visual perspective).
Wolf Rider Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) unfair and unnecessary to compare a sim to a (WT)game... Edited October 19, 2014 by Wolf Rider City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar"
Boris Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 I think Mustang's shader mod includes a fix for this: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=113374 PC Specs / Hardware: MSI z370 Gaming Plus Mainboard, Intel 8700k @ 5GHz, MSI Sea Hawk 2080 Ti @ 2100MHz, 32GB 3200 MHz DDR4 RAM Displays: Philips BDM4065UC 60Hz 4K UHD Screen, Pimax 8KX Controllers / Peripherals: VPC MongoosT-50, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, modded MS FFB2/CH Combatstick, MFG Crosswind Pedals, Gametrix JetSeat OS: Windows 10 Home Creator's Update
NeilWillis Posted October 19, 2014 Posted October 19, 2014 I expect all the particle effects will have to be overhauled as part of the move to Edge. Different beast altogether. It may also account for the lack of effort to put stuff like that right in the current iteration. After all, why fix something that'll disappear when we get the update? I am sure of course that ED didn't think it'd take this long to release it. It's just a hurdle, we're in limbo until the change is made, and then these details will become more relevant again. At least, that's what I hope.
Gamja Field Posted October 19, 2014 Author Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) I think Mustang's shader mod includes a fix for this: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=113374 Thank you. It looks much better with that mod. :megalol: I expect all the particle effects will have to be overhauled as part of the move to Edge. Different beast altogether. It may also account for the lack of effort to put stuff like that right in the current iteration. After all, why fix something that'll disappear when we get the update? I am sure of course that ED didn't think it'd take this long to release it. It's just a hurdle, we're in limbo until the change is made, and then these details will become more relevant again. At least, that's what I hope. It's been almost a year since I stopped playing DCS series. What is Edge? New graphic engine? Edited October 19, 2014 by resmania
kampf Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 I totally removed the smokes from p51 mgs, thanks to a workaround found in this forum. Now I see only tracers and it's better. Maybe it's possible with the Sabre too.
ED Team NineLine Posted October 20, 2014 ED Team Posted October 20, 2014 This is already addressed in DCS World 2.0 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
Python Posted October 20, 2014 Posted October 20, 2014 This is already addressed in DCS World 2.0 Great news. :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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