razo+r Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Can it carry additional 2 guns on the wings, if yes, why aren't they moddeled in dcs? Sorry for my english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 605 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Yes it can, and maybe they'll became available later as they are in controls list already. CPU: Intel Core i7-2600k @3.40GHz | Motherboard: Asus P8P67-M | Memory: Kingston 8GB DDR3 | OS W10 | GPU: Sapphire R9 290x 8GBDDR5 | Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 24" | Devices: Oculus Rift, MS FFB 2 joystick, Saitek X 52 Pro throttle, Saitek Pro pedals, Gametrix Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Hrothgar Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 To my knowledge, the Bf-109K4 could carry a pair of MK.108 (30mm) or MG151 (20mm) in pods under the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 What do you think, IT Would be nice If we get them or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentGun Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Yes it can, and maybe they'll became available later as they are in controls list already. Yup And in the DCS world encyclopedia. Link to my Imgur screenshots and motto http://imgur.com/a/Gt7dF One day in DCS... Vipers will fly along side Tomcats... Bugs with Superbugs, Tiffy's with Tornado's, Fulcrums with Flankers and Mirage with Rafales... :)The Future of DCS is a bright one:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saburo_cz Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Have you ever seen any photo K-4 with "Rüstsatz R6" (cannon gondolas under wings)? Or G-10/G14? It looks like that using "R6" ended with G6 model in reality, yes there was possibility but did it? F6F P-51D | P-47D | Mosquito FB Mk VI | Spitfire | Fw 190D | Fw 190A | Bf 109K | WWII Assets Pack Normandy 2 | The Channel | Sinai | Syria | PG | NTTR | South Atlantic F-4E | F-14A/B | F-15E | F/A-18 | F-86 | F-16C | A-10C | FC-3 | CA | SC | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthuro12 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 For air to ground purposes or anti bomber missions I could see it being very useful. However historically they used the 190 A's and F's for those roles didn't they? (atleast with the gunpod upgrades) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastfreddie Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Have you ever seen any photo K-4 with "Rüstsatz R6" (cannon gondolas under wings)? Or G-10/G14? It looks like that using "R6" ended with G6 model in reality, yes there was possibility but did it? They are going to stick the 21cm mortars on the Dora and I haven't seen anything to say that it ever happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurfürst Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Have you ever seen any photo K-4 with "Rüstsatz R6" (cannon gondolas under wings)? Or G-10/G14? It looks like that using "R6" ended with G6 model in reality, yes there was possibility but did it? Caldwell alleges in JG 26 war diary that the unit's K's were delivered with the R IV Gondelnwaffen. http://www.kurfurst.org - The Messerschmitt Bf 109 Performance Resource Site Vezérünk a bátorság, Kísérőnk a szerencse! -Motto of the RHAF 101st 'Puma' Home Air Defense Fighter Regiment The Answer to the Ultimate Question of the K-4, the Universe, and Everything: Powerloading 550 HP / ton, 1593 having been made up to 31th March 1945, 314 K-4s were being operated in frontline service on 31 January 1945. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastfreddie Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Are you talking about the R4M rockets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurfürst Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 No, Rüstsatz IV - 2 cm MG151/20 Gondelnwaffen (different nomenclature on 109K!) http://www.kurfurst.org - The Messerschmitt Bf 109 Performance Resource Site Vezérünk a bátorság, Kísérőnk a szerencse! -Motto of the RHAF 101st 'Puma' Home Air Defense Fighter Regiment The Answer to the Ultimate Question of the K-4, the Universe, and Everything: Powerloading 550 HP / ton, 1593 having been made up to 31th March 1945, 314 K-4s were being operated in frontline service on 31 January 1945. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB 605 Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Have you ever seen any photo K-4 with "Rüstsatz R6" ? No, never. Theres not a single pic even in mhaldimann's fantastic flickr gallery. Of course it doesent mean they never actually used, like kurfurst said some sources claims that k4s were delivered with wing cannons. CPU: Intel Core i7-2600k @3.40GHz | Motherboard: Asus P8P67-M | Memory: Kingston 8GB DDR3 | OS W10 | GPU: Sapphire R9 290x 8GBDDR5 | Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster 24" | Devices: Oculus Rift, MS FFB 2 joystick, Saitek X 52 Pro throttle, Saitek Pro pedals, Gametrix Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted December 5, 2014 ED Team Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) Seems like the system is there to use them, so I hope they consider it, even if they weren't used, or widely used, I still think its cool to have them. They should be able to be limited by the ME. Edited December 5, 2014 by NineLine Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastfreddie Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 Seems like the system is there to use them, so I hope they consider it, even if they weren't used, or widely used, I still think its cool to have them. They should be able to be limited by the ME. So what all info do you need to have to put in a feature request? Any chance for the AB250, SC250, and R4M (Dora/262) being put in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 But are they going to be moddeled or Not? And what about the rockes under the wings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted December 5, 2014 ED Team Share Posted December 5, 2014 I think other weapons are planned, when and what gets done I am not sure, I will research the gun pods some and see what I can do there, if anyone has any info on the gun pod types and such, feel free to share it with me. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted December 5, 2014 Author Share Posted December 5, 2014 Ok Thanks If you search the gun pods, i know many of you May don't like IT but maybe look once to war thunder and its gun pods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted December 5, 2014 ED Team Share Posted December 5, 2014 Ok Thanks If you search the gun pods, i know many of you May don't like IT but maybe look once to war thunder and its gun pods There is plenty of info out there, dont need to go down the WT road ;) Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagrat Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 I think other weapons are planned, when and what gets done I am not sure, I will research the gun pods some and see what I can do there, if anyone has any info on the gun pod types and such, feel free to share it with me. It's in the Bf-109 K4 flight manual... first or second chapter, overview of the plane Armament (page 62) The manual says it wasn't many pilots who liked the wing pods, as they reduced the maneuverability, but they were available and one squadron in particular had them in all their plane most of the time. They were MG-151/20 pods Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 Are there any news on new weapons for this beauty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurfürst Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 109K Rüstsaetze from manual http://www.kurfurst.org - The Messerschmitt Bf 109 Performance Resource Site Vezérünk a bátorság, Kísérőnk a szerencse! -Motto of the RHAF 101st 'Puma' Home Air Defense Fighter Regiment The Answer to the Ultimate Question of the K-4, the Universe, and Everything: Powerloading 550 HP / ton, 1593 having been made up to 31th March 1945, 314 K-4s were being operated in frontline service on 31 January 1945. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) I know, but i would like to have a Rüstsatz like the IV in the manual or like the V on the second picture (if those are gunpods or rocket pods) ingame, even though it probably didn't got really used Edited November 15, 2016 by razo+r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solty Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I know, but i would like to have a Rüstsatz like the IV in the manual or like the V on the second picture (if those are gunpods or rocket pods) ingame, even though it probably didn't got really used I don't see why assume they were not used. It just might be not well documented, but their existance is irrefutable, therfore I assume ED will add them. Sadly, just as the new DM and P-51D model, that might take a while.:( [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]In 21st century there is only war and ponies. My experience: Jane's attack squadron, IL2 for couple of years, War Thunder and DCS. My channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyAXX9rAX_Sqdc0IKJuv6dA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razo+r Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 I don't see why assume they were not used. It just might be not well documented, but their existance is irrefutable, therfore I assume ED will add them. Sadly, just as the new DM and P-51D model, that might take a while.:( Well, i said maybe they weren't really used, but nvm Well, let's hope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 I believe ED will include Rustsatz at a later update. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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