Shotsx74 Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 http://www.boldgames.com/products/woe/woe.html What about this one guys not saying i am going to go to it but if any one has it and has some feed back, would be awesome, thanks!
Shotsx74 Posted April 15, 2006 Author Posted April 15, 2006 k so i lied its not out yet but what do you guys think??
169th_Dredd Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 I think I think its not worth thinking about... thats what I think. ---= 169th Panthers -Flt Lt.- =--- http://www.169thpanthers.com.au AMD64 S939 3700 | 2GB Corsair DDR500 | 21" CRT ATI Radeon X800Pro | 2x36GB WD Raptors | SB Audigy TIR3 | TM-868 | X52 | CH Pedals | Creative 5.1 Spkrs
D-Scythe Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 ...and I think any new flight sim is a good thing for our little niche of the gaming market.
Shotsx74 Posted April 15, 2006 Author Posted April 15, 2006 I think the screens look pretty good i would like to see an in cockpit though... that would be nice. Im going to keep eyes on it =)
hitman Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Personally I think its made by the same creators of Strike Fighters Project 1 and Wings over Vietnam. If it even remotely touches LOMAC on realism then it might be worth it. But I expect to see that sim at the local book stores being sold for $3.99 a piece.
TucksonSonny Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 http://www.boldgames.com/products/woe/woe.html What about this one guys not saying i am going to go to it but if any one has it and has some feed back, would be awesome, thanks! The screenshots shows an almost exact copy of the falcon4 terrain and weather system. Of course we all know that falcon is a lot more than just the gpu-engine. The system requirements are ridiculous low. My guess is that it is rather arcade. Anyway this can be good for getting noobs into modern flight sims and let them step over to more serious flight simulators like FC and Falcon. DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
MGonzales Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Fellas, Wings Over Europe is simply the next version of Strike Fighters (SFP1/WoV), adding more modern a/c and avionics along with some other new features. A patch will also be released to add the new features back into the previous versions. Here's some pit shots (community enhancements)... http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=145;t=003023 A MiG-21 cockpit (see middle of thread)... http://www.simhq.com/simhq3/sims/boards/bbs/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=89;t=000361 A nice paper on Strike Fighters... http://www.simhq.com/_air4/air_133a.html Anyone who's curious can pick up SFP1 at Circuit City for $5.00 (I paid $10.00 at Office Max). It's an open sim with so much stuff to download it's mind boggling. Some available flyable a/c... http://www.column5.us/aircraft.shtml -- Mark
MBot Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Oh ED, why don't you guys do a cold war sim ? I guess that would make a couple of people very happy :) And I bet there are no reference problems for the mighty MiG-23.
tflash Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 It is by playing SFP1/WOV that I found out about Lockon anyway. SFP1/WOV is promoted as being a "light" sim. FMs of the stock aircraft are very good, but also very forgiving at the edges of the flight envelope. WOE will add some rudimentary modern avionics like CCIP etc. It is not meant as competition to Lockon at all, but as D-Scyhte said it strenghtens the flightsim market. Certainly in this case, since the SFP1/WOV line is very, very succesful given the entry level prices and is attracting a lot of new players. Lockon is really what you want if you have flown hours of SFP1/WOV and need an "upgrade". [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Force_Feedback Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Soo many mods, and still no working ejection seats, wow, that's an achievement. The F-4's FM was very believable (you have to set the flight models to realistic first in the options menu, before starting the whining about FMs) IMHO, the stalls were deadly at low altitude, and the unpredictable yawing roll was there too. Now, when it comes to weapon moddeling... nah. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
Pilotasso Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 F4's FM implemented real world lift and drag data but they forgot all about moments of inertia and it flew as a paper plane. if you look HUD tapes and then jump into the F4 pit youll see how poorly the sense of flight compares. The F-16 jitters in the edges of the envelope too. I still think the F-16 is underpowered anyway, you cant do all those manuevers you see on airshows and F4 implementation of the F-16 drags the falcon down so badly it feels that your flying an F-86 instead of an F-16. .
tflash Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Pilotasso, we are speaking about the FM of the Phantom F-4 in SFP1, not about the Falcon's FM in Falcon F4:AF! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Dudikoff Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Well, I'm at least somewhat anxious about this release. Cold War scenario (mid to late 80s) is my favourite setting, but at the same time I'm not expecting much. It would be nice if they made some real map and not the usual generic kind and I'm very sceptical about radar and weapon modelling, especially for the more advanced fighters (i.e. F-15). I'm dissapointed to see no Soviet-Bloc fighters are flyable out of the box. Sure, most of them are made by community already, but with generic radar and weapons modelling. Plus the fact that putting all those mods together makes my skin crawl. It would be great if Lock On's successor would go this way, IMHO. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
Pilotasso Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Pilotasso, we are speaking about the FM of the Phantom F-4 in SFP1, not about the Falcon's FM in Falcon F4:AF! gah! I go to the corner of my room now... .
MBot Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 I am a bit sceptical about WOE. For me the Strike Fighters series was a big dissapointment, even tough I realy wanted to like the sim ( because of the great setting ). I can accept the approach that SF is a "sim light", but the gameplay has to be right for this. And the number one gameplay killer of SF for me was the poor visual model. The airplanes are incredible hard to see and dissapear completly after only a couple of hundret meters. And a sim that concentrates very much on dogfights where you can't see your enemys simply doesn't work. There are many other problems with SF that don't have anything to do with bugs or lacking realism ( wich falls in the sims scope ), but with bad design and lacking gameplay. So WOE devenitly has to improve in those areas to appeal to me, but I somehow doubt that this will happen. It is a pitty, because the scenario would be great. So I will continue to lobby for ED to swich to the cold war area in the future.
VapoR Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 So I will continue to lobby for ED to swich to the cold war area in the future. Man I love you . . . :icon_syda Cold war era is THE best scenario for a sim for a number of reasons, the prime being balance. There are not any better timeframes where both sides are evenly matched, at least in the jet age. WW2 works really well for balancing, and I think that during the 80s a similar matchup existed. NATO Flyables: F-15A F-16A A-10A F-14 A-4M Jaguar AH-64A Warsaw Pact Flyables: MiG-21 MiG-23 MiG-25 MiG-27 MiG-29A Su-17 Su-25 Mi-24 Theatre choices: Central Europe (Fulda Gap scenario) Kola Peninsula Bering Straights
Shotsx74 Posted April 15, 2006 Author Posted April 15, 2006 Thanks for sme of the pit screens, they look OK, they look a little cartoony... o well =/
MGonzales Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 So WOE devenitly has to improve in those areas to appeal to me, but I somehow doubt that this will happen. I couldn't even guess what might be improved in this upcoming release / patch but as I understand it, SF is practically a one man show that keeps improving...slowly but surely. BTW, a WWI SF-based sim is also coming out soon. -- Mark
rlogue Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Personally I think its made by the same creators of Strike Fighters Project 1 and Wings over Vietnam. If it even remotely touches LOMAC on realism then it might be worth it. But I expect to see that sim at the local book stores being sold for $3.99 a piece. If it touches LOMAC on realism, I'm not buying it !
Revvin Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Thirdwire's sims are always a little on the light side when it comes to avionics. The fact that it's got so many flyable aircraft makes me wonder how far in depth they have gone. Might be worth a look though.
hitman Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 If it touches LOMAC on realism, I'm not buying it ! Hey thats your choice not mine....but when I had played Strike Fighers in all its infamy, I walked away with 999 a2a kills and 999a2g kills with 999 pilot deaths. Its overdone on me. Too easy. I will say this though....strike fighters always made the best screenshots for photo editing thats for sure. Yeah I know but its like my first one.
BeetleJuice Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 I tried WOV once, the graphics arent that bad but the sound engine of that game is very poor and boring.
tflash Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 BeetleJuice, looks like you need a new soundcard; Hitman, you're right: SFP1/WOV is THE game to make aviation screenshots. In fact, most of us are continuously switching external views to have awesome sightings! Your picture is great ... and the F-4B is my all-time favourite! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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