Sabre-TLA Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 I was going to vote no thinking "Did the F-104 even see combat?" But yes it did according to this website: "F-104Cs served in South East Asia (SEA) in 1965-66 and 1966-67 during two separate deployments. Over the course of these two deployments, seven F-104s were lost to enemy ground defenses; one F-104 was shot down by an enemy aircraft, and no enemy aircraft were engaged by F-104s while flying escort or CAP missions. It has been said that the F-104s "never had a mission and never made a mark" in SEA. Misconceptions, myth and misinformation about the F-104 have led to this impression. The facts tell a different story. By 1964, the USAF's only primary air superiority aircraft , the F-104C, had been forward deployed on several occasions to project US power and assure control of the air during world crises. The F-104 was widely regarded as the world's foremost daylight air-to-air platform, and the pilots of TAC's 479th TFW, the only operators of the F-104C, had proven themselves to be masters of their trade in numerous mock air-to-air encounters. It was therefore understood that the F-104Cs of the 479th's 435th, 436th or 476th TFSs would rapidly deploy to any troublespot where air superiority must be quickly established. Such a spot was SEA in 1965." MapleFlagMissions - Read Our Blog for Updates
SDsc0rch Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 i know the 104 was also quite tricky to fly might be a case of "be careful what you wish for" i7-4790K | Asus Sabertooth Z97 MkI | 16Gb DDR3 | EVGA GTX 980 | TM Warthog | MFG Crosswind | Panasonic TC-58AX800U [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
WildBillKelsoe Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 an A-7 Corsair would be my purchase though... AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
emg Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) I'd much prefer the F-105. Saw a heck of a lot more action I understand, drops a heck of a lot of bombs, and actually shot down Migs in North Vietnam (24.5 vs 0 for the F-105)! :) I'm afraid the air war was a lot hotter than that, USAF does acknowledge 17 F-105 to have been lost in air-to-air combat. On the other side, seventeen F-105s claimed by the North Vietnamese to have been downed by MiGs have been correlated with known USAF air-to-air losses. North Vietnam also claims that an additional 10 F-105s acknowledged by the USAF to have been lost to ground fire or other causes were actually lost to MiGs. http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/f105_5.html Btw Joe Baugher's site and Greg Goebel's http://www.airvectors.net are very good sites if one wants to look up older combat aircraft. I was going to vote no thinking "Did the F-104 even see combat?" But yes it did according to this website: "F-104Cs served in South East Asia (SEA) in 1965-66 and 1966-67 during two separate deployments. Pakistani F-104s saw combat vs Indian MiG-21s (among other types) in two separate wars. Edited January 28, 2015 by emg 1
MTFDarkEagle Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 A manned missile with an amazing sound?? HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!! *drool* u6K4iSxET6g Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
Ulanthorn Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Yes I would like a modernized Starfighter like the F-104G used by the Luftwaffe till 1991. It had better Radar, IRST, reinforced undercarriage and improved flaps for better manouverability.
mwd2 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 A widowmaker as counterpart for the MiG-21Bis, on the same detail level (EFM/ASM) - why not!? Playing: DCS World Intel i7-13700KF, 64GB DDR5 @5600MHz, RTX 4080 ZOTAC Trinity, WIN 11 64Bit Prof. Squadron "Serious Uglies" / Discord-Server: https://discord.gg/2WccwBh Ghost0815
GodsPrototype Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 not another outdated, outclassed bird... we have F-86 and that is as good. Lets try and get the F/A-18C / E into DCS, then we can worry about old birds/choppers... I agree with you. I have bought a lot of aircraft for DCS (every module so far) but many I have bought just to support the developers. I primarily just fly in the A-10C, and the only fighter jet I like to fly once in a while is the F-15C, which is a Flaming Cliffs aircraft. I really need a high fidelity modern Western fighter jet, because that's all I've actually been waiting for in DCS for the past 3 years I've been using this sim. The only news that actually makes me excited now is the new engine, but I think that will wear off quickly once it's released, as I still wont have my fighter jet. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Gargoil Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 No, but I'd rather see an F-4 as a mig-21 counterpart
Paradox Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 F-104S yes definitely F-104G most likely yes. Not really sure about the older ones.
OnlyforDCS Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 No. Apart from the coolness factor, this is a rather poor jet. It wasnt called the widowmaker for no reason you know. Current specs: Windows 10 Home 64bit, i5-9600K @ 3.7 Ghz, 32GB DDR4 RAM, 1TB Samsung EVO 860 M.2 SSD, GAINWARD RTX2060 6GB, Oculus Rift S, MS FFB2 Sidewinder + Warthog Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro rudder pedals.
Random Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Absolutely. Great partner for the Mig21 and VEAO's planned EE Lightning. As to the usual "not another old junker" posts. This is just a poll. Dont worry! ED aren't gonna abandon the F/A-18 they are making based on a poll on the forums. As to it being a bit rubbish... Thats why I like it! It's the flaws in something that gives it character. Edited January 28, 2015 by Random
MTFDarkEagle Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Some more ... Crank up the volume!!! vdDoKosn-88 Lukas - "TIN TIN" - 9th Shrek Air Strike Squadron TIN TIN's Cockpit thread
block ii Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) My short Wishlist :) I will buy only those models: MIRAGE EUROFIGHTERFIGHTER TYPHOON GRIPEN RAFALE DASSAULT EF-111A F-5 F-14D F-15ES F-16C F-18E F-35B F-22 RAPTOR any other model I will not even spend a penny :) Edited January 28, 2015 by block ii
tomcatter Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Can´t land on a carrier , but, damm of course I will fly that bird¡¡¡¡
Zilch Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Would I buy it? Probably, since I buy it all. Would I prefer an F-5, if we're going with that era? Yes. Actually, the in my opinion, the best possible aircraft to add to DCS from the era would be an OV-10 Bronco...that plane did a bit of everything, and was carrier capable, to boot. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Zilch79's YouTube Channel:
Jona33 Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Really..? Yeah it was, the US Marines used it I believe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Rockwell_OV-10_Bronco#mediaviewer/File:OV-10A_USS_Nassau_1983.jpeg Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing
tomcatter Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 Yeah it was, the US Marines used it I believe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Rockwell_OV-10_Bronco#mediaviewer/File:OV-10A_USS_Nassau_1983.jpeg Cool, didn´t know that,thanks. Then I vote for the Bronco, and the F-104 can go to hell..¡¡¡¡
Zilch Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 If you really want to get pumped about the OV-10, just read the Wikipedia page. Imagine dropping off parajumpers off for a rescue, or flying an ambulance, or spraying drug crops with defoliants, or marking targets with smoke, or flying light attack, or coordinating a large air strike, or flying CAS, or dropping off a spec ops team, or flying recon, or... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Zilch79's YouTube Channel:
Flagrum Posted January 28, 2015 Posted January 28, 2015 My short Wishlist :) I will buy only those models: MIRAGE EUROFIGHTERFIGHTER TYPHOON GRIPEN RAFALE DASSAULT EF-111A F-5 F-14D F-15ES F-16C F-18E F-35B F-22 RAPTOR any other model I will not even spend a penny :) But for the color of the paint you have no special preferences, eh?
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