DCS: F-14A/A+/B by Heatblur Simulations coming to DCS World!

[QuiGon]

I think he was talking about the F/A-18c ie Aim-9x and Amraam.

 

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Oh, yeah, you're right :doh:

 

Nevermind then... :music_whistling:

[Johnny Dioxin]

Yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of inept virtual pilots out there that can't wait to get into the modern flying computer that does it all for them, well out of harms way, rather than acquire the skill necessary to succeed by doing it all themselves in less technologically equipped airframes :P

[VampireNZ]

Yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of inept virtual pilots out there that can't wait to get into the modern flying computer that does it all for them, well out of harms way, rather than acquire the skill necessary to succeed by doing it all themselves in less technologically equipped airframes :P

 

Shots Fired! :gun_sniper:

[smallberries]

Are you kidding? I'm looking forward to sitting in the back seat, sipping my latte, and letting my pilot do all the work.

[The Black Swan]

well out of harms way :P

 

Hmmm...

 

Are you referring to using the Phoenix to stay well out of harms way?

Or do you mean that since the Tomcat can't use the HARM that it will be well out of harms way?

:music_whistling:

[dimitrischal]

Yeah, I'm sure there are plenty of inept virtual pilots out there that can't wait to get into the modern flying computer that does it all for them, well out of harms way, rather than acquire the skill necessary to succeed by doing it all themselves in less technologically equipped airframes :P

 

And developers will always provide for them because of profit,still they get owned though:D

[turkeydriver]

Hmmm...

 

Are you referring to using the Phoenix to stay well out of harms way?

Or do you mean that since the Tomcat can't use the HARM that it will be well out of harms way?

:music_whistling:

 

Too bad it wasn't funded eh?

http://www.topedge.com/panels/aircraft/sites/mats/f14-detail-agm88-01.jpg

[asla36]

Too bad it wasn't funded eh?

http://www.topedge.com/panels/aircraft/sites/mats/f14-detail-agm88-01.jpg

Would've been great though!

 

And the plus side with having a second crew member is that you can blame it all on them! And of course if an F/A-18C flies heads down they will be easy prey for a lurking and sneaking MiG-21bis or MiG-19p in the mountains using GCI. Sad thing we can never have something as capable for the RED team. So we're gonna have to do what we do best, sneak and R-60M!

 

This thread and the people on it are so great. I literally can't stop laughing! :D

[probad]

why do you keep talking about the f-18 in an f-14 thread?

[Verde]

Remember guys pheonix has distance but pretty much lacks everything else. I mean it should not be such a big deal. Pheonix is not AIM-120c with better distance. It is clumsy and overpowered in the state that is modeled now by ED. I hope heatblur makes more realistic option so it will not be a big problem for russian jets, just a slight inconvinience;)

[Kayos]

Remember guys pheonix has distance but pretty much lacks everything else. I mean it should not be such a big deal. Pheonix is not AIM-120c with better distance. It is clumsy and overpowered in the state that is modeled now by ED. I hope heatblur makes more realistic option so it will not be a big problem for russian jets, just a slight inconvinience;)

 

You obviously don't know much about the Phoenix then.

The Iranians used it to great affect.

[Verde]

You obviously don't know much about the Phoenix then.

The Iranians used it to great affect.

 

We need pics or graphs of both missile parameters or didn`t happen:)

 

Phoenix against Flanker in realms of DCS i think no big deal for flanker.

Edited June 7, 2017 by Verde

[VampireNZ]

Most less informed sources claim that the primary use of the F-14 was as an airborne early warning aircraft, guarded by other fighters.

 

However, in reality the IRIAF used the F-14s actively as a fighter-interceptor and at times escort fighter with the AIM-54 scoring 60-70 kills. F-14s were often used to protect IRIAF tankers supporting strike packages into Iraq, and scanned over the border with their radars, often engaging detected Iraqi flights. Also, some F-14s were modified into specialized airborne early warning aircraft.

 

Supporters of these claims point to the fact that, in the 1991 Gulf War, Iraqi fighter pilots consistently turned and fled as soon as American F-14 pilots turned on their fighters' very distinctive AN/AWG-9 radars, which suggests that Iraqi pilots had learned to avoid the F-14. The counter-argument is that virtually all Iraqi fighters turned and fled when confronted, regardless of the type of aircraft facing them, although the USAF had much better success engaging Iraqi fighters with their F-15 Eagles in the same vicinity where Tomcats operated.

 

During the entry of the F-14 and AIM-54 into Iranian service, the Shah ordered live-firing exercises with AIM-54s. The exercise was targeted against the Soviet Union, who was flying MiG-25 recon sorties over Iran. Five AIM-54s were shot at AQL-34 target drones, two flying Mach 2 at 60.000 feet. Four missiles hit the targets. After the exercise the Soviets approached Iran and both sides reached agreement, that allowed the tensions to de-escalate, avoiding further conflicts between the two states.

 

On 16th September 1980, Iranian F-14s were vectored against a fast-moving contact, approaching Khark oil terminals at Mach 3. The MiG-25 was shot down by an AIM-54. This was the first confirmed kill by F-14 against MiG-25s.

 

On the same day, another MiG-25RB was shot down in extremely hard conditions. The MiG-25 was approaching fast and was already within 113 km, yet the F-14 RIO was unable to acquire the target. A positive lock-on was made at a distance of only 70 km, almost inside the minimum range for this type of look-up shot against a high-speed target. A single AIM-54 was launched in snap-up engagement mode at 64 km. The missile worked perfectly and the MiG was downed.

 

On 2nd December 1980 one of the closest range shoot=downs by AIM-54 occurred. Captain F. Dehghan of the 8th TFS was flying on patrol covering Khark Island oil teminals, when a number of approaching bogies were detected. Lock-on was attained only from a distance of 10 miles, too close to the minimum range of the missile. The F-14 had to use the Phoenix, though, as otherwise the plane would have been too heavy for dogfighting. The Phoenix was launched in short-range active mode and it managed to hit a MiG-21.

 

At 20th November 1982, two Iraqi generals boarded an Mi-8 helicopter to visit the front lines. The Mi-8 was escorted by two other Mi-8s, an Mi-25, four MiG-21s and four MiG-23s, that were replaced by additional fighters when they ran low on fuel. The formation was spotted by two Iranian Tomcats escorting an IRIAF KC-707 tanker, which was waiting for an Iranian F-4 strike to refuel. The F-14s were flying a race-track pattern, scanning over the front line with their AWG-9 radar. Captain Khosrodad spotted a large number of targets approaching slowly from the west, already within AIM-54 range. Khosrodad ordered his wingman to keep with the tanker and attacked, first firing two AIM-54s, then two AIM-7E-4s some 10 seconds later. According to Iraqi reports, one MiG-21 and two MiG-23s were shot down within a minute, forcing the Iraqi generals to abandon their mission.

 

On 20th February 1987, an IRIAF F-4 lured an Iraqi strike force into a trap, which was ambushed by two F-14s of the 81st TFS. An AIM-54 was launched at very long range, hitting the lead Mirage flown by IrAF Brig. General Hekmat Abdul-Qadr. The Iranian listening posts recorded the leader of the accompanying Su-22 flight scream "F-Arba-Ashara! Yalla! Yalla!" with the seven remaining fighters turning and fleeing. In English the leader had called "F-14! Run! Run!"

 

During late 1987, the Soviet Union supplied Iraq with MiG-25BM "Wild Weasel" aircraft. The planes tested the ECM systems against Iranian Tomcats and attacked Iranian targets with new anti-radar weapons. The MiG-25BMs proved they could operate with impunity at up to 69,000 ft, until on the night of 11th November a MiG-25BM was intercepted by an F-14. The Tomcat fired a single AIM-54 in Home-On-Jam mode. The missile guided flawlessly but failed to detonate. Yet, the missile clipped the MiG-25's fin and forced the pilot to bail out.

 

During March 1988, Iraq launched a major attack against Iranian oil exports. On 19th March, at 0100, the first wave of Iraqi Tu-22B heavy bombers and Mirage fighters, attacked Khark island and the tankers. Half an hour later, a second wave arrived without losses. The Iranian F-14s had arrived on scene for the third wave, though. The US Navy warships patrolling on the area recorded several AIM-54 launches, with at least one Tu-22B bomber and a MiG-25RB being destroyed. According to the US Navy, it is probable that other Iraqi bombers were shot down as well.

 

During the ending phase of the Iran-Iraq war, a mini war developed between the Iraqi Mirage F1 EQ-5/6 units and the Iranian F-14s between February and July 1988. The F1 pilots hunted the Tomcats aggressively and attacked the Iranians at any occasion. The F1EQ-6s were equipped with good ECM systems, and the Iraqi pilots could deny the F-14s from using their AIM-54 missiles. For example on 19th July 1988 four Mirages attacked two F-14s and downed both, suffering no losses.

 

Edited June 7, 2017 by VampireNZ

[asla36]

why do you keep talking about the f-18 in an f-14 thread?

Honestly don't know, it's like a natural phenomena. Keeps happening... Plus I have found another aircraft to derail threads with!

 

The Pheonix will be great for scrubbing the enemy's energy/positioning before the MRM fight, by forcing them to evade. Make them easier targets for your Sparrows. Though outright killing something with it will be rare.

 

However it might have a chance of not getting picked up by the RWR, if luck is on your side that is, with it's diving attack profile. Since it, IIRC ,only uses it's own radar for terminal guidance. And it has the ability of being launched in TWS.

 

Still, that's only a theoretical possibility. Though I will be more than happy to lob these at the enemy and watch them screw up all their energy. The sneaky attack capability is still theoretically there (if you are high enough).

[QuiGon]

@VampireNZ

Great and interesting stories. Thanks for sharing :thumbup:

[The Black Swan]

Too bad it wasn't funded eh?

http://www.topedge.com/panels/aircraft/sites/mats/f14-detail-agm88-01.jpg

 

Would have been great for sure.

 

why do you keep talking about the f-18 in an f-14 thread?

 

Because let's face it, they are going to be the two big kids on the block.

And the top of the food chain ain't big enough for the both of em'.

 

That being said, I'm just as excited to see the two team up.

[ked]

Small question, will we be able to use guided bombs with JTAC pointing lasers on ennemies ? I haven't seen any statement about that.

[Revelation]

Small question, will we be able to use guided bombs with JTAC pointing lasers on ennemies ? I haven't seen any statement about that.

 

That would be very doable with the 'B' most of use waiting to see if we get self-designation with the 'B'.

[ked]

That would be very doable with the 'B' most of use waiting to see if we get self-designation with the 'B'.

 

Isn't the pod LANTIRN all about self designation ? They said they wouldn't do it by the release

[Tirak]

Small question, will we be able to use guided bombs with JTAC pointing lasers on ennemies ? I haven't seen any statement about that.

 

Cobra released a statement saying that the LANTIRN Pod would not be simulated. He later hedged a bit and said that it wouldn't be released at launch if at all. So dumb bombs only fro the Cat.

[ked]

Cobra released a statement saying that the LANTIRN Pod would not be simulated. He later hedged a bit and said that it wouldn't be released at launch if at all. So dumb bombs only fro the Cat.

 

ye i know i was wondering if JTAC lasing like in the mirage 2000c would work

[Tirak]

ye i know i was wondering if JTAC lasing like in the mirage 2000c would work

 

Well the GBU-12 is activated by a wire being pulled out, that causes the fins to deploy and the seeker to track, theoretically if you can carry a Mk.82 you can haul and drop a GBU-12. It's a little harder because there's no LST to help you get in on the target, but a good talk on would be more than enough.

[Joni]

I have a dumb question, sorry:

 

Does the pilot seat have a radar screen? Or only the RIO?

[Kayos]

I have a dumb question, sorry:

 

Does the pilot seat have a radar screen? Or only the RIO?

 

Only RIO

[Joni]

Only RIO

 

I know this is not DCS, but the pilot should have two screens with different modes.

 

 

 

Isnt it like IRL?