tale Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Just a quick question. When taxiing around the airport, if you use the rudder what you are really doing is steering the front wheel, right? because I don’t think that at such low speeds the rudder at the tail of the plane can have any significant effect for turning Flying is fantastic, but add a few missiles and explosions and it becomes addictive. --------- http://www.youtube.com/c/taletoul
King_Hrothgar Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Depends on the plane but generally yes, rudder steers the nose wheel.
NeilWillis Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Yep, with the exceptions of the Eastern block stuff, and the tail draggers. The F-86F has a hydraulic system that is a little slow, and needs a button to be held in to engage the nosewheel. The F-16 requires a button pressing to enable high rate turns. But generally speaking, the rudder is linked to the nose wheel in tricycle undercarriage stuff.
Aginor Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 In the A-10C you can activate the nose wheel steering or not. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
escaner Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Generally yes, but it depends on each plane. In some of them there is no control on the wheel and it is free to turn any direction. Here, you need to use differential braking to turn. In others, like most airliners, you have limited wheel control on the pedals for the takeoff and landing runs, and then there is a tiller or two in the cockpit for the tighter turns when taxiing. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
mvsgas Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Yep, with the exceptions of the Eastern block stuff, and the tail draggers. The F-86F has a hydraulic system that is a little slow, and needs a button to be held in to engage the nosewheel. The F-16 requires a button pressing to enable high rate turns. But generally speaking, the rudder is linked to the nose wheel in tricycle undercarriage stuff. On the F-16 ( USAF F-16 block 25, 30, 40 and 42 anyway, never worked the other blocks), you have to turn on Nose Wheel Steering (NWS) like on DCS A-10C. With NWS off, moving the rudder pedals has no effect unless the aircraft is moving fast enough. Even then, the NWS does not move the nose tire unless is on On the F-117 and (AFAIK) F-15, you can increase the degrease the wheel can turn. But you still need to turn on NWS. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
mvsgas Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Just a quick question. When taxiing around the airport, if you use the rudder what you are really doing is steering the front wheel, right? because I don’t think that at such low speeds the rudder at the tail of the plane can have any significant effect for turning Si, como dijeron las otras personas, depende de el avion y sus sistemas. Generalmente, eso es correcto. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
cichlidfan Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 No se habla espanol aqui, jefe. Solamente Gringo Ingles. :lol: ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Retu81 Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Hawk has a free castering nose wheel (spring centering to be precise). It doesn't have nose wheel steering, so the pilot has to use differential braking to steer the plane on the ground. It also causes some pretty hilarious situations when there's ice on the taxiway. :)
mvsgas Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 No se habla espanol aqui, jefe. Solamente Gringo Ingles. :D Good, I don't speak "español", I speak spanglish To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
tale Posted April 24, 2015 Author Posted April 24, 2015 Thanks for all the replies, it always amaze me how knowledgeable you are in about all these details. I’m sure if I ask some crazy question like what’s the ideal pressure in the tires of the A-10C some of you will sure know, without even looking it up. Anyway back to the steering nose wheel. How about the russian planes, do they use differential braking? Flying is fantastic, but add a few missiles and explosions and it becomes addictive. --------- http://www.youtube.com/c/taletoul
Aginor Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 The FC3 planes: No, not as far as I know. Haven't tried the Su-27 with AFM though, so I am not sure. The Mig-21: Yes, although it works differently than you would expect. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
mvsgas Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) ...I’m sure if I ask some crazy question like what’s the ideal pressure in the tires of the A-10C some of you will sure know, without even looking it up.... I have been told: The NLG tire is always inflated to 140(±5) psi. The MLG tires shall be inflated to 185(±5) psi regardless of climate, temperature, or aircraft gross weight. Anyway back to the steering nose wheel. How about the russian planes, do they use differential braking? Not the FC3 aircraft, they all use NWS. AFAIK, Mig-15 and 21 use differential braking Edited April 24, 2015 by mvsgas 1 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Rongor Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 To be a bit more precise, those front wheels which get steered are not really controlled by the rudder but by the pedals, which on the other hand also affect the rudders.
lmp Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 AFAIK, Mig-15 and 21 use differential braking The two MiGs have a free castering nose wheel and differential brakes controlled by a single lever on the stick and the rudder pedals. There are no Western style toe brakes. In order to turn, say, left, you apply left rudder and press the lever on the stick. The lever controls how much pneumatic pressure is applied and the position of the rudder pedals - how the pressure is distributed between the left and right wheels. Sounds a little strange to a Westerner at first, but I find it easier to use than the toe brakes + free castering wheel system, though it may be because of the imperfection of my HOTAS rather than the concept itself.
mvsgas Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 The two MiGs have a free castering nose wheel and differential brakes controlled by a single lever on the stick and the rudder pedals. There are no Western style toe brakes. In order to turn, say, left, you apply left rudder and press the lever on the stick. The lever controls how much pneumatic pressure is applied and the position of the rudder pedals - how the pressure is distributed between the left and right wheels. Sounds a little strange to a Westerner at first, but I find it easier to use than the toe brakes + free castering wheel system, though it may be because of the imperfection of my HOTAS rather than the concept itself. So your saying they use the brakes to turn...so same thing I said correct? To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
lmp Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 Yes, what you said is perfectly correct. I wasn't disputing your statement, just elaborating on it.
Harry.R Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 What about the F-15, I can never seem to get out of the HAS site in one because it steers worse than my present car! Having been a few feet from F-15Es on a flight line I can see that F-15E must have far superior steering to the C, not one of them managed to ploughed into to our Typhoon!
shagrat Posted April 25, 2015 Posted April 25, 2015 What about the F-15, I can never seem to get out of the HAS site in one because it steers worse than my present car! Having been a few feet from F-15Es on a flight line I can see that F-15E must have far superior steering to the C, not one of them managed to ploughed into to our Typhoon! Do you press and hold 'S' while doing sharp turns? (You can set this to a button of your liking in the controls setup, 'S' is the default IIRC) Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
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