Guitrz Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 Yes my bad, the Bis is a 1972 model, I could have sworn it was older... [sIGPIC][url=http://www.blacksharkden.com][/url][/sIGPIC] http://www.blacksharkden.com "Come join us" - Bad Religion
KesMonkey Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 But isnt the Bis a post 'nam model? Yes my bad, the Bis is a 1972 model, I could have sworn it was older... Don't you mean you thought it was younger? Or are you confused about when the Vietnam war ended? The Vietnam war ended in '75, meaning that if you thought it was a post-war model, you thought it was younger than it is. :)
Guitrz Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 I'm very confused. [sIGPIC][url=http://www.blacksharkden.com][/url][/sIGPIC] http://www.blacksharkden.com "Come join us" - Bad Religion
MVSokie Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 so what is the F-20 tigershark as compared to the F-5 we are getting? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Custard Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 so what is the F-20 tigershark as compared to the F-5 we are getting? It has very little in common other than shape. The F-20 was such a huge upgrade it wasn't really an F-5 anymore. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Svend_Dellepude Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 It has very little in common other than shape. The F-20 was such a huge upgrade it wasn't really an F-5 anymore. Probably why it was named F-20! :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD.
King_Hrothgar Posted April 14, 2016 Posted April 14, 2016 Pretty different as said, the F-20 is single engined instead of twin. The other big change was the addition of radar guided missiles as standard. It also got the typical 4th gen cockpit update, so mostly glass instead of dials. Aerodynamically, they are pretty similar though. But then so is the F-18, which is another branch off the F-5 series. It's an interesting plane in that regard, the F-5 never really went away, it simply evolved little by little over the years until it had nothing in common with the original.
Drag0nWIng Posted April 15, 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 Only 2 built upgraded f-5, it's just a prototype aircraft with a good hearing callsign. Compare with F-20, I'm prefer to x-29, another variant f-5, it also built 2 and much cool with forward swept wing, canards and fly by wire system.
Badger1-1 Posted April 15, 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 so what is the F-20 tigershark as compared to the F-5 we are getting? The F20 has the Engine of the F18 ;)
Cool Breeze Posted April 15, 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 so what is the F-20 tigershark as compared to the F-5 we are getting? The F-20 in my opinion was a potentially very capable 4th generation version of the F-5. "For once you have tasted flight you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Leonardo Da Vinci "We are tied to the ocean. And when we go back to the sea, whether it is to sail or to watch - we are going back from whence we came." John F. Kennedy
theOden Posted April 15, 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 Nice link Cool Breeze, thank you for that one. The F-20 seem to be very close to F-16C avionics wise, such a module would be very welcome. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
IvanK Posted April 15, 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 Probably closer to the FA18A avionics wise ... display format and mechanization was almost identical.
Kev2go Posted April 15, 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) The F-5E with the APQ-153 radar was used in the war by the South Vietnamese airforce. What we are getting is equipped with the APQ-159 radar aswell as a better RWR system. So this particular model / setup of F-5E did not see service. But the difference is all in Avionics the flight performance is the same as a the earlier F-5E. from what i can gather the F5E-1 which is what entered service in 1972, and also sold off to south vietnam didnt seem to have any sort of rwr system at all. just the apq-153 radar. Edited April 15, 2016 by Kev2go Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD
ThorBrasil Posted April 16, 2016 Posted April 16, 2016 [ame] [/ame] |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
ThorBrasil Posted April 16, 2016 Posted April 16, 2016 [ame] [/ame] |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
ThorBrasil Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 The F-5E has autopilot? |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
ФрогФут Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 The F-5E has autopilot? No, it doesn't. "Я ошеломлён, но думаю об этом другими словами", - некий гражданин Ноет котик, ноет кротик, Ноет в небе самолетик, Ноют клумбы и кусты - Ноют все. Поной и ты.
ThorBrasil Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 No, it doesn't. It must be quite tiring to travel with him. I can not wait to launch! :D |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
Kev2go Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) No, it doesn't. Mig21bis has autopilot. F100D super sabre which went into service in 1956 had autopilot, and basically just about every american fighter since then. il have too rexamine the F5E manual, because I find it hard to believe that by the 70s, especially an all weather fighter from the 3rd generation ( even if its a plane aimed for export) would actually lack any sort of autopilot function Edited April 17, 2016 by Kev2go Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD
razo+r Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Belsimtek, does your F-5 also include swiss Paintings?
ThorBrasil Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Belsimtek, does your F-5E also include Brazilian Air Force Paintings? :D |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
Pipe Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Oh what the hell.........Canadian liveries to please ;) Sent from my SM-G920W8 using Tapatalk i7 4770k @ 4.5, asus z-87 pro, strix GTX 980ti directcu3oc, 32gb Kingston hyperX 2133, philips 40" 4k monitor, hotas cougar\warthog, track ir 5, Oculus Rift
Magot Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) F5E II 360deg cockpit in 4K Edited April 17, 2016 by Magot
Guitrz Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Dilma's impeachment approved, I also want BR skins! [sIGPIC][url=http://www.blacksharkden.com][/url][/sIGPIC] http://www.blacksharkden.com "Come join us" - Bad Religion
ThorBrasil Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Dilma's impeachment approved, I also want BR skins! lol +1 |Motherboard|: Asus TUF Gaming X570-PLUS, |WaterCooler|: Corsair H115i Pro, |CPU|: AMD Ryzen 7 3800X, |RAM|: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB 3200MHz DDR4, |SSD|: Kingston A2000 500GB M.2 NVMe, |SSD|: Kingston 2.5´ 480GB UV400 SATA III, |SSHD|: Seagate Híbrido 2TB 7200RPM SATA III, |GPU|: MSI Gaming 980Ti, |Monitor|: LG UltraWide 34UM68, |Joystick 1|: Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog, |Joystick 2|: T.Flight Rudder Pedals, |Head Motion|: TrackIr 5.
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