A WARNING ABOUT MS UPDATES FOR WINDOWS 10

Wolf Rider · July 15, 2015

guys... its in test phase, they have full control of how and when - its a beta fcol, not the fully fledge you beaut buy it off the shelf( so to speak (yes, yes, yes, I know about the deal) ) product

They will have bits locked down, they will get your system ready if you've gone the "preview" (background download) route or signed up (and they are also not unknown to have launched a dodgy update or two in their time)

all of this is made clear before the (user) "lowering the finger onto the button"

happens

NRG-Vampire · July 21, 2015

for me it's sure-fire: microsoft and google are spies in the rig (and many other products of "reliable/trusted" big names)

the list will be continued

some fairly new microsoft EXE what eats your CPU (probably hidden analysis/survey resources for WinX)

Windows Install Compability Advisor Inventory Tool - wicainventory.exe

Windows Compatibility Telemetry - compattelrunner.exe - related to windows experience

http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/406122

Google Chrome - software_reporter_tool.exe

Edited July 23, 2015 by NRG-Vampire

xaoslaad · July 21, 2015

There is something to be said for small routine and frequent updates. I do update my system pretty much as they come and no problem. People sitting on Windows 7 (and older) screaming 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' are likely to hit at once every little rocky bump on the way to updating from there to whatever they finally go to.

You're probably also as likely to perceive problems in jumping 3 versions of Windows as to actually experience them.

I laugh at people who do this on fast moving bleeding edge Linux distros just as well. You're four releases behind and finally updating? I can't possibly imagine why that's causing problems.

It's far easier to say, "I just did 3 updates and something went wrong so let's see what it was.", than "I just installed 300 updates and jumped three versions of Winodws..."

Edited July 21, 2015 by xaoslaad

SkateZilla · July 21, 2015

I still dont see what the uproar is about...

All the processes monitoring your system were disclosed in the Windows Insider Program agreement.

They are gonna monitor App usage, Crash Logs, etc etc, everything. To gather data for the Gold code.

If your running WinX without being an Insider, using the ISO and License key acquired through other means than the Insider Program website, then thats your problem, and TBH is borderline illegal.

OnlyforDCS · July 23, 2015

Just wait a while with the upgrades. Why would I upgrade to Win10 when it is still basically a beta product? How is that sensible in any way?? This is not a simple application, or game we are talking about here, its a completely new OS and it will take a while to work out the kinks. I will wait 6 months at least before upgrading to Win X (if at all) and when I do I will make sure to remove all the bloat and firewall the 'phone home' stuff.

StandingCow · July 23, 2015

Waiting until the first major patch (which is due in Oct) isn't a bad idea... new stuff always has bugs.

Most of this thread is a bit silly though.

cichlidfan · July 23, 2015

Most of this thread is a bit silly though.

Of course it is, but just because someone is paranoid doesn't mean that somebody isn't out to get them. :D

Laurius · September 12, 2015

Hi everyone,

for those who (Win7 & Win8 ) are bored to see the add proposing to get their version of Windows 10 popping up, you just have to uninstall the update KB3035583.

I did this this morning, restarted my computer and no more windows icon in the lower right corner of display. Cherish on the cake, I could recover at least 2 GB on my main drive (SSD).

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2922604/microsoft-windows/microsoft-re-re-re-issues-controversial-windows-10-advertising-patch-kb-3035583.html

http://www.myce.com/news/how-to-uninstall-kb3035583-the-windows-10-downloader-for-windows-7-and-8-1-75681/

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Laurius

Bucic · September 12, 2015

There's the update notification KB topped with the recent KB's introducing telemetry. Here's my private list of blocked updates:

KB2952664, KB3021917, KB3035583, KB3068708, KB3075249, KB3075851, KB3080149

Shady ones IMO:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3083324

You can also use http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/destroy_windows_10_spying.html which is going to do that for you plus some extra blocking of 'telemetry'.

Laurius · September 12, 2015

Hi Bucic,

thank you for the second link you gave.

Are you still annoyed with this Win10 pop up window ?

Since my last post here this morning, I again lost some free space on my SSD (it's everyday the same). I don't know where all those GBs or fractions of GBs are going.

I've downloaded and ran the App from your second link, and it seems efficient since I could recover again another 2 GB on my SSD.

I hope this App won't induce any mess on my system as it seems very new. Otherwise I will restore my system. But so far, so good !!

I will check if the updates you mention are still here or not (except for KB3035583)

Thanks again

Laurius

Note : After having uninstalled KB3035583 this morning, I could see (just before writting this post) in Windows updater that this update was still required and was important. I've hidden it and everything seems okay

Edited September 12, 2015 by Laurius

Bucic · September 12, 2015

Nope, no popups here. I've removed the 583 as soon as it came out and then, IIRC, another update which was intended to re-introduce pretty much what 583 tried before.

Laurius · September 12, 2015

Bucic,

please, can you tell which update tried to re-introduced what 583 tried before ?

I've been messing arround the entire afternoon and it seems that finally that the App in the second link you gave is a no-go for me since I realize it's changing many things which I don't feel comfortable with at the moment.

At least no pop up here also after having uninstalled only the 583.

Thank you.

Laurius

Bucic · September 13, 2015

Bucic,

please, can you tell which update tried to re-introduced what 583 tried before ?
I've been messing arround the entire afternoon and it seems that finally that the App in the second link you gave is a no-go for me since I realize it's changing many things which I don't feel comfortable with at the moment.
At least no pop up here also after having uninstalled only the 583.
Thank you.
Laurius

Yes, the app is not well masę in this regard. You're supposed to change the settings first.

As for re-introduction of 583, false alarm. It was just another version of 583. More invasive somewhat.

I've extracted an interesting command line commands from one of forum comments. I haven't checked whether it targets the right KB's but the command syntax is useful nonetheless.

start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2876229 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2923545 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2970228 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2990214 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3021917 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2592687 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2660075 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2506928 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3050265 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2726535 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2994023 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2545698 /norestart /quiet 
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3065987 /norestart /quiet 
pause 
shutdown -t 15 
exit

Edit:

I've justed looked them all up. Only the following are related to telemetry and W10 upd notifications:

Tylko te dot. omawianych spraw.

start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583 /norestart /quiet

start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2990214 /norestart /quiet

start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /norestart /quiet

start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664 /norestart /quiet

start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /norestart /quiet

start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /norestart /quiet

start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /norestart /quiet

I'm adding the following updates to be removed based on other sources (I've read up on them on ms support site):

KB3068708

KB3075249

KB3080149

Suspected (indicated as update to the update client itself but whithout any specifics):

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3050265

https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3083324

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3065987

Updates listed by some for removal but IMO shouldn't be removed because they don't add neither tlemetry nor notifications:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3021917

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075851

That would be it.

Edited September 13, 2015 by Bucic

Laurius · September 13, 2015

Bucic,

Once again, thanks a lot !

Laurius

PoleCat · September 13, 2015

This thread is crazy. HAVING CAPPED THE THREAD TTILE MADE IT EVEN MORE CRAZY!

I have upgraded six of my machines from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10 and they are all running just fine as are all installed apps and hardware peripherals. I find this OS to be a really nice improvement over Windows 7/8.1 in every respect.

Opting out of a free OS upgrade? I don't think so. BTW, where have all the "Microsoft charges too much for an OS" people gone?

If you are truly this paranoid you should really wait a few months to pull the trigger on WinX. I am willing to bet that with very little variation the same people posting warnings will clearly see there own paranoia some months later when we find that they are using the very OS they warned us about....... Happens every time!

"Change has no constituents"

Out

Edited September 13, 2015 by PoleCat

Bucic · September 13, 2015

BTW, where have all the "Microsoft charges too much for an OS" people gone?

I'm right here ;)

If you are truly this paranoid you should really wait a few months to pull the trigger on WinX.

Hasn't this thread turned into "info on recent unwanted MS updates" a while ago? By the way, removing the recently introduced telementry (Win 7 and up) along with the functionality downloading W10 installation files to your drive hardly has anything to do with paranoia.

Laurius · September 13, 2015

:thumbup:

PoleCat · September 13, 2015

I'm right here ;)

Hasn't this thread turned into "info on recent unwanted MS updates" a while ago?

Yes but that is not how it started and many of the comments are mindless MS bashing.

By the way, removing the recently introduced telementry (Win 7 and up) along with the functionality downloading W10 installation files to your drive hardly has anything to do with paranoia.

Well unless your machine really sucks and it is really dragging you down

or you are using illegal versions of the OS then I would actually qualify much of this thread as paranoia. It is easy enough to remove any update you do not want and it has been well documented. This includes the update that offers you the FREE upgrade. I am not sure MS should send an apology for offering what amounts to $140.00 OS for free. Although, I am sure they are sorry for the inconvenience it is causing. BTW, how is free too much money as well? ;)

Out

Edited September 13, 2015 by PoleCat

Rangi · September 14, 2015

Seems like it's more work not upgrading to 10 than just letting it do it.

Has anyone upgraded their CPU and motherboard with a win 10 install? What is the process to reactivate?

Neuman · September 14, 2015

Sorry guys I have a question, no one had problems with Windows 10 and NVDIA Video Capture program Shadow Play in DCS ? I can't launch DCS, when that program switched on. Yes I can use this program, but if I already started a mission, and only then launched the program in the taskbar

Edited September 14, 2015 by Neuman

Bucic · September 14, 2015

Yes but that is not how it started and many of the comments are mindless MS bashing.

Well unless your machine really sucks and it is really dragging you down
or you are using illegal versions of the OS then I would actually qualify much of this thread as paranoia. It is easy enough to remove any update you do not want and it has been well documented. This includes the update that offers you the FREE upgrade. I am not sure MS should send an apology for offering what amounts to $140.00 OS for free. Although, I am sure they are sorry for the inconvenience it is causing. BTW, how is free too much money as well? ;)

Out

If you think anyone was about the free upgrade being too expensive and that trashing out telemetry and notifications may only benefit vintage PCs, we are not going to agree on anything, I'm afraid.

BitMaster · September 14, 2015

One has to accept that some do not accept more than one OS version and brand...

None does it all, they all have flaws, they all come with a price you have to pay, be it money or time and knowledge or device.

With Win10, well, if you dont like it, dont install it, deinstall its preparation tools and be happy, many stay with Win7 for many reasons, no shame.

One kernel to rule them all, that kernel is your brain .)

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