DCS : F4U-1 Corsair

[Spuks]

54 minutes ago, Stratos said:

I have not followed this development, can someone answer this?

 

- Which version are we getting? WW2, 3 bladed prop, right?

 

- Are we getting any carrier with it?

Hiromachi posted Christmas-update already http://leatherneck-sim.com/2020/12/22/christmas-update/

[Stratos]

Had high hopes for a 4 blade prop Korean era Corsair + Escort Carrier. Will pass on this one.

[Cunctator]

A year ago the showed an Essex Class CV model in game that will be released together with the F4U-1D. 

[streakeagle]

A Korean War era Essex CV was quite a bit different in configuration/appearance from the World War 2 era. But in the interim, I would gladly use the WW2 Essex and F4U-1D as stand-ins in a Korean War server/mission environment.

[Stearmandriver]

How could you possibly tell how many prop blades the plane has while flying it?? 

[AG-51_Razor]

6 hours ago, streakeagle said:

A Korean War era Essex CV was quite a bit different in configuration/appearance from the World War 2 era. But in the interim, I would gladly use the WW2 Essex and F4U-1D as stand-ins in a Korean War server/mission environment.

As would I, along with a Corsair that never flew over Korea during that conflict but the Essex class carriers would be very difficult to distinguish between those that were fighting during WWII and those that were modified later and operated in Korea. The "long hull" CV's were not so easy to tell apart from the earlier short hulls and it wasn't until very late in the conflict that you saw one or two with their dual 5" mounts removed from the flight deck. Probably the biggest difference might be the various antennas above the island for updated radar, navigation and communication.

 

I would really like to see a Jeep carrier (CVE) modeled for the Corsair as well!

[Stratos]

11 hours ago, Stearmandriver said:

How could you possibly tell how many prop blades the plane has while flying it?? 

Cause is possible to see it while flying...

 

[img]https://i.imgur.com/M0i1hZT.jpg[/img]

 

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but sure I would note a WW2 pilot... Maybe they can do this guy as an option?

 

[img]https://i.imgur.com/gskqKCe.jpg[/img]

 

 

 

 

Edited December 27, 2020 by Stratos

[Stearmandriver]

Well... sure it's possible to see it in a photograph using a fast enough shutter speed, but certainly not with the naked eye. 

 

If they're gonna model a pilot, I vote for Boyington!

 

 

[AG-51_Razor]

There is just something particularly beautiful about seeing an F4U-4 or -4B sitting on the flight deck with it's wings folded in a pack of several more waiting for the order to start engines. The symetry of the 4 blades versus 3 is much more appealing - to many it seems. Think of seeing an A-37 Apache sitting on the tarmac next to a P-51B and you might understand what Stratos is getting at. 

[Stearmandriver]

Oh my comments were tongue in cheek, sorry if they came off otherwise. I'm a fan of as many models of Corsair as they want to give us! 

 

I just really, REALLY hope the flight model is nice.  I'm finding DCS warbirds seem to run the gamut in that respect.

[Baco]

I was also Hoping for a dash 4 or 5. But since we only get one of each in DCS, this corsair will have to do....

[Cunctator]

Not to mention the FC planes, we already have 2 versions of the Fw-190 and F-14. Razbam has announced more Harriers, with the vastly different Sea Harrier coming next.  There is always hope for more F4Us.

[Dragon1-1]

Variants of WWII fighters should be easier to do, because unlike later ones, they didn't have much in terms of avionics. The Corsair has gone through a lot fewer changes than, say, the F-14 did between versions. I'd love to see a Korean War era Corsair, to go along with the Sabrejet and MiG-15.

[Baco]

I believe a dash 4 or dash 5 would be very welcome, It equiped the navies of Argentina and France for a long,, long time. it fits perfectly in korea, Geez I trully hope that it will come later on...

[Mogster]

23 hours ago, Baco said:

I believe a dash 4 or dash 5 would be very welcome, It equiped the navies of Argentina and France for a long,, long time. it fits perfectly in korea, Geez I trully hope that it will come later on...

You’d really think variants of existing WW2 planes would make for easy cash for the developer. ED have already said that WW2 planes sell well and are more profitable, man hrs to return, than modern stuff. 

[AG-51_Razor]

While I have no idea whatsoever the difference in complexity between modeling (simulating) an F-5E versus an F4U-1D or -4B, it seems to me that ED, or in this case Magnitude 3 LLC, is missing a golden opportunity to take advantage of the late 40's through late 50's in terms of the various aircraft that participated in both WWII and Korea, not to mention those other brush fire wars in Africa, the Middle East, Indochina, indonesia, Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, India/Pakistan, South America and China, not to mention the Cold War. The variety of scenarios is almost limitless and would open up a huge market for ships and ground forces that would compliment that time period for either or all sides. I also doubt very seriously that the popularity ($$) of the challenge of the carrier operations has been lost on anyone in this community. I have great expectations for this era of aviation to come.

[Baco]

6 hours ago, Mogster said:

You’d really think variants of existing WW2 planes would make for easy cash for the developer. ED have already said that WW2 planes sell well and are more profitable, man hrs to return, than modern stuff. 

I truly Hope so!!! 

 

[Mogster]

One thing that does concern me is the fact that of the prop planes available for DCS Leatherneck’s offering, the CEII, has by far the least convincing flight model. Although I have to say this criticism doesn’t come from real world powered flight experience, just the feel of it and a comparison with the flight models of similar aircraft in DCS and other sims. 
 

Hopefully Leatherneck have used the CEII as a proof and concept and can move on from it, I think there was some suggestion that they may create a new FM for the CEII while they are making the F4U.

Edited January 21, 2021 by Mogster

[AG-51_Razor]

While I have no RW experience in the CEII, I did own an RV-8 a while back and I must say, the CEII seemed to be fairly well done in terms of "feel", at least as far as I was concerned. There were a few things about it that did not impress me but I can't say the FM was one of them. I am quite sure that there are far more subject matter experts floating around for the CEII than the F4U-1D but they are out there and I have faith that the Corsair will impress, regardless!   OK, I admit it.....I'm a fanboy!

[Mogster]

13 hours ago, AG-51_Razor said:

While I have no RW experience in the CEII, I did own an RV-8 a while back and I must say, the CEII seemed to be fairly well done in terms of "feel", at least as far as I was concerned. There were a few things about it that did not impress me but I can't say the FM was one of them. I am quite sure that there are far more subject matter experts floating around for the CEII than the F4U-1D but they are out there and I have faith that the Corsair will impress, regardless!   OK, I admit it.....I'm a fanboy!

There are some extended posts about the Leatherneck CEII in its own forum. It has been tweaked in the last few months but it still feels less dynamic than the other DCSW props and at times odd. There are some posts trying to ascertain why it feels odd, lack of dynamic adverse yaw, lack of gyro effects in some situations. I’m concerned as the CEII is Leatherneck’s trial run for the Corsair and flight model nuances are vitally important in these WW2 era planes. The CEII is quite a simple plane, the Corsair really really isn’t.

[AG-51_Razor]

Well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[YoYo]

On 12/26/2020 at 3:49 PM, Stratos said:

Had high hopes for a 4 blade prop Korean era Corsair + Escort Carrier. Will pass on this one.

 

WW2 - USS Bunker Hill:

 

 

 

Edited January 31, 2021 by YoYo

[ac5]

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

[AG-51_Razor]

Beautiful!!

[Stratos]

The pics look cool yes