El Hadji Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) No batteries I'm afraid... Just good 'ol 9mm rounds and on occasion a very impressive bayonet. :gun_smilie: Edited April 2, 2016 by El Hadji [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My computer specs below: CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K@4.2GHz | CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro H100 | GPU: MSI Nvidia GTX 680 2GB Lightning 2GB VRAM @1.3GHz | RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600 | SSD 1: Corsair Force 3 120GB (SATA 6) | SSD 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB (SATA 6) | Hybrid disc: Seagate Momentus Hybrid 500/4GB (SATA 3) | Keyboard: QPAD MK-85 | Mouse: QPAD 5K LE | TrackIR 5 + Track Clip Pro | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | MFG Crosswind | OS: Win7/64
mangotango Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 (edited) No batteries. Just good 'ol 9mm rounds and on occasion a very impressive bayonet. :gun_smilie: So you never put an "D battery" behind the spring?... Läs här - kotte eller battery gav samma resultat: https://www.flashback.org/p2993367 Edited April 2, 2016 by mangotango
El Hadji Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 Problem was that we had to use a collector for the spent cases during training. The rate of fire of the m/45 is pretty high as it is and sometimes the cases bounced back and got stuck. With more spring tension and even higher r.o.f that likelyhood increased. But I have seen it done though and it almost sprays as a MAC-10. On one occasion the barrel exploded... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My computer specs below: CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K@4.2GHz | CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro H100 | GPU: MSI Nvidia GTX 680 2GB Lightning 2GB VRAM @1.3GHz | RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600 | SSD 1: Corsair Force 3 120GB (SATA 6) | SSD 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB (SATA 6) | Hybrid disc: Seagate Momentus Hybrid 500/4GB (SATA 3) | Keyboard: QPAD MK-85 | Mouse: QPAD 5K LE | TrackIR 5 + Track Clip Pro | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | MFG Crosswind | OS: Win7/64
BravoYankee4 Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 The first time I was shooting with that gun I believed I was shooting two rounds, even though I really tried to shoot single rounds. Eventually I understood that it was the moving mechanism that felt as the second round :music_whistling:
Kilrah Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 The first time I was shooting with that gun I believed I was shooting two rounds, even though I really tried to shoot single rounds. Eventually I understood that it was the moving mechanism that felt as the second round :music_whistling: Yep, same here :music_whistling: ASUS Z370, i7 8086K @ 5,2 Ghz, ASUS Strix GTX 1080, 16GB Ram, TM HOTAS Warthog, TrackIR 5, Saitek combat rudders, 25" 1440p monitor, Oculus Rift
WinterH Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 Alright, can't hold it any longer :P. I'm sure it must be something as all you folks have some good memories of it apparently. Yet, I'm sorry but, it must be the ugliest SMG ever :P. Even Sten looks better :D. And that stock looks as uncomfortable as it can get. What made it so cool for you folks, honest curiosity :). (Lack of Viggen news, turned us into discussing SMGs in this thread, hope someone takes note :P). Wishlist: F-4E Block 53 +, MiG-27K, Su-17M3 or M4, AH-1F or W circa 80s or early 90s, J35 Draken, Kfir C7, Mirage III/V DCS-Dismounts Script
mattebubben Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) Alright, can't hold it any longer :P. I'm sure it must be something as all you folks have some good memories of it apparently. Yet, I'm sorry but, it must be the ugliest SMG ever :P. Even Sten looks better :D. And that stock looks as uncomfortable as it can get. What made it so cool for you folks, honest curiosity :). (Lack of Viggen news, turned us into discussing SMGs in this thread, hope someone takes note :P). It was and is a very reliable weapon its easy to control and accurate (at SMG ranges) It was simple to use and a very good weapon allround and also simple/cheap to produce. And they were used and exported outside of sweden aswell. (and also license produced in multiple nations like Egypt and Indonesia) They are especially well known for their use by navy seals and other US Spec-ops units in vietnam and south east Asia. (It was often called the Swedish-K in US service) One of the reasons why it suited the navy seals so well is that it could be used pretty much the second you had the barrel / bolt etc above the water. You did not need to dry it or empty it of water as the open bolt design allowed to to drain the water almost instantly. The US navy liked it so much to the point where they made a copy after sweden pot a export embargo of weapons to the US during the Vietnam war. The US copy is not an exact copy and looks slightly different and its called the Smith&Wesson M76. And how dare you call her ugly >=( If i only had my M/45 id shoot you right here and now :lol: And ugliest SMG ever?... really... Two Words... Grease Gun... And if you can say you think the M3 looks better then the M/45 then you probably need glasses or a mental checkup ^^. And the M/45 was often seen together with the viggen (pretty much throughout the career of the AJ/AJS 37) As it was the weapon that was carried by Swedish Ground Crew. So any time you see a picture of a Viggen being re-armed you are bound to see a Few M/45s. Edited April 4, 2016 by mattebubben
Schmidtfire Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 Easy to control? It only has automatic fire... My uncle told me a fun story about his time in the swedish military service. At the time, Military Police and guards were using the M/45. There was a test were you screamed: Halt! Shot one warning shot in the air, followed by one shot in the leg on a target of a running man. An anxious recruit had a lot of problems controlling the fully automatic M/45. So the first shot would always be in the leg, and the rest up the back as the muzzle was raising out of control. Making the target look like swiss cheese. Anyways, he failed the test several times and the poor guy had to perform the rest of his military service armed with only a baton :lol:
El Hadji Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 Best weapon I used in when I was in the military. It simply never failed regardless of weather conditions (During my service the temp interval was between -25C and +30C) and it required a minimum amount of maintenance and cleaning. Not that many weapons to this day that you can swim with in saltwater, crawl through sand and expect to work flawlessly afterwards... It was easy to handle as well with it's folding stock and the wooden grip was actually pretty comfortable. I actually earned my PEK patch with the M/45. (Prisskjutning Eldhandvapen Kulspruta = "Target shooting Firearm Machinegun") [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My computer specs below: CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K@4.2GHz | CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro H100 | GPU: MSI Nvidia GTX 680 2GB Lightning 2GB VRAM @1.3GHz | RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600 | SSD 1: Corsair Force 3 120GB (SATA 6) | SSD 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB (SATA 6) | Hybrid disc: Seagate Momentus Hybrid 500/4GB (SATA 3) | Keyboard: QPAD MK-85 | Mouse: QPAD 5K LE | TrackIR 5 + Track Clip Pro | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | MFG Crosswind | OS: Win7/64
El Hadji Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 Easy to control? It only has automatic fire... Yes it is easy to control if you know what you are doing and firing single shots is no problem at all. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My computer specs below: CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K@4.2GHz | CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro H100 | GPU: MSI Nvidia GTX 680 2GB Lightning 2GB VRAM @1.3GHz | RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600 | SSD 1: Corsair Force 3 120GB (SATA 6) | SSD 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB (SATA 6) | Hybrid disc: Seagate Momentus Hybrid 500/4GB (SATA 3) | Keyboard: QPAD MK-85 | Mouse: QPAD 5K LE | TrackIR 5 + Track Clip Pro | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | MFG Crosswind | OS: Win7/64
Kilrah Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 It was easy to handle as well with it's folding stock and the wooden grip was actually pretty comfortable. I actually earned my PEK patch with the M/45. (Prisskjutning Eldhandvapen Kulspruta = "Target shooting Firearm Machinegun") Pansarskott, Eldhandvapen, Kulspruta... :smilewink: ASUS Z370, i7 8086K @ 5,2 Ghz, ASUS Strix GTX 1080, 16GB Ram, TM HOTAS Warthog, TrackIR 5, Saitek combat rudders, 25" 1440p monitor, Oculus Rift
El Hadji Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 Okejdå... ;) Interesting read about the Swedish-K: http://specialoperations.com/28722/swedish-k-unsung-friend-american-special-forces-vietnam/ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My computer specs below: CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K@4.2GHz | CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro H100 | GPU: MSI Nvidia GTX 680 2GB Lightning 2GB VRAM @1.3GHz | RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LP DDR3 1600 | SSD 1: Corsair Force 3 120GB (SATA 6) | SSD 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB (SATA 6) | Hybrid disc: Seagate Momentus Hybrid 500/4GB (SATA 3) | Keyboard: QPAD MK-85 | Mouse: QPAD 5K LE | TrackIR 5 + Track Clip Pro | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | MFG Crosswind | OS: Win7/64
mattebubben Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 (edited) Easy to control? It only has automatic fire... My uncle told me a fun story about his time in the swedish military service. At the time, Military Police and guards were using the M/45. There was a test were you screamed: Halt! Shot one warning shot in the air, followed by one shot in the leg on a target of a running man. An anxious recruit had a lot of problems controlling the fully automatic M/45. So the first shot would always be in the leg, and the rest up the back as the muzzle was raising out of control. Making the target look like swiss cheese. Anyways, he failed the test several times and the poor guy had to perform the rest of his military service armed with only a baton :lol: Its easy to control in full auto due to the very light recoil and "low" rate of fire. And with a little bit of training it was not that hard to do single shots. And also the police had their own variant that was select fire (Semi or full auto) The MP might have used the normal variant though but for the police they had the variant with the semi auto capability. And if someone is unable to stick to singles or small bursts with the M/45 its just as likely they would just rapid fire a Semi auto weapon as well. Since at that point its not about the weapon or the training but the head of the person holding it. Edited April 4, 2016 by mattebubben
Skjold Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 I love how this thread has become the kpist M/45 thread :)
Kilrah Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 I love how this thread has become the kpist M/45 thread :) Yeah... in lack of official news... :( ASUS Z370, i7 8086K @ 5,2 Ghz, ASUS Strix GTX 1080, 16GB Ram, TM HOTAS Warthog, TrackIR 5, Saitek combat rudders, 25" 1440p monitor, Oculus Rift
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 Yeah... in lack of official news... :( Well, short of an announcement, the Viggen isn't exactly news. Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
mattebubben Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 Well, short of an announcement, the Viggen isn't exactly news. Well any news from Leatherneck about the viggen would be great =P. Whether it be the announcement or just an announcement of a potential announcement where they will announce the announcement of the Viggen =P. 1
Ganesh Posted April 4, 2016 Posted April 4, 2016 Well any news from Leatherneck about the viggen would be great =P. Whether it be the announcement or just an announcement of a potential announcement where they will announce the announcement of the Viggen =P. You said it! regards Ganesh She: "Your orders from ED have reached a total amount of $ 1.168,94 and your hardware expenses are countless..." Me: "I can´t invest my money much better until i wait for Germanys Next Top Model": The Bo-105 PAH1A1 + Vulkan & continuous work on multithread & VR optimization! Asus Z490E - 10900k@5,3GHz - 64GB 3600 DDR4 - 4090FE - Reverb G2 - MFG Crosswinds +DamperMod - Selfmade TableMounts - Centered VirPil T-50 Base with 20cm Extension - TM Warthog & Hornet Grip - TM Throttle +SlewMod - Pimped MSFFB2 for Huey - JetSeat SE on a sawn out office Chair - PointCTRL
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 Well any news from Leatherneck about the viggen would be great =P. Whether it be the announcement or just an announcement of a potential announcement where they will announce the announcement of the Viggen =P. Too true. I'd be nice for them to leave a message on this webzone. I will mail them a pizza roll. Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
Cobra847 Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 (edited) Some are content to be Miggen' seems others crave a Viggen Soon we have may* and perhaps also a day where by your Viggens side you will lay I hope then you'll say "this is pretty 'kay" Alas! possible only when the Leathernecks reach zen and Who knows when that will be? I must admit, without a lie, but only a bitter sigh, that not even I *I'm lazy and this rhymed. It may or may not be may Don't kill me pls. Edited April 5, 2016 by Cobra847 1 Nicholas Dackard Founder & Lead Artist Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
Cletust8 Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 Too true. I'd be nice for them to leave a message on this webzone. I will mail them a pizza roll. Ooohhh with the Plinkett reference...
BlackLion213 Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 Ooohhh with the Plinkett reference... What's a Plinkett...? Some are content to be Miggen' seems others crave a Viggen What's a Miggen...? Now I'm worried that this day has been a bit longer than I thought...I should probably drink something besides coffee... -Nick
kolga Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 What's a Plinkett...? What's a Miggen...? Now I'm worried that this day has been a bit longer than I thought...I should probably drink something besides coffee... -Nick MiG(-21)en ;) "Long life It is a waste not to notice that it is not noticed that it is milk in the title." Amazon.co.jp review for milk translated from Japanese "Amidst the blue skies, A link from past to future. The sheltering wings of the protector..." - ACE COMBAT 4 "Blessed be the LORD my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight"-Psalm 144:1 KJV i5-4430 at 3.00GHz, 8GB RAM, GTX 1060 FE, Windows 7 x64
BlackLion213 Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 MiG(-21)en ;) I see. :) Maybe its a little late for Limericks. (as in late in the day for me) I'm pretty content when I "Miggen", but still want a Viggen - those don't have to be mutually exclusive. ;) -Nick
mattebubben Posted April 5, 2016 Posted April 5, 2016 Some are content to be Miggen' seems others crave a Viggen Soon we have may* and perhaps also a day where by your Viggens side will lay I hope then you'll say "this is pretty 'kay" Alas! possible only when the Leathernecks reach zen and Who knows when that will be? I must admit, without a lie, but only a bitter sigh, that not even I *I'm lazy and this rhymed. It may or may not be may Don't kill me pls. ooh cobra xD. Somtimes its hard to know if one loves you or hates you xD. But none the less looking forward to the maybe that may or may not be may. And then it comes to the kill order... We have yet to reach a consensus either way but we have started the necessary preparations.
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