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Nice, can't wait for it! :)

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@Zeus67,

 

Amazing work and keep the updates up. loving this dev interactions!

 

Do you think that with more "US aircraft" it will be easier to get things done with other similar aircraft? in other words how much do the "for example" existing DCS: A-10c systems architecture help in the development speed/ease of the AV8IINA?


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@Zeus67,

 

Amazing work and keep the updates up. loving this dev interactions!

 

Do you think that with more "US aircraft" it will be easier to get things done with other similar aircraft? in other words how much do the "for example" existing DCS: A-10c systems architecture help in the development speed/ease of the AV8IINA?

 

I think most if not all but the basic code is proprietary, I.E. build your own code library, ED supply's basic code and function. Not quite sure about other high tech developments going on now tho?

 

I always looked at all this (correct me if I'm wrong), as the code that's been created by the developer would be somewhat coded like its a module in the module that can be redesigned or tweaked for something else. Like aircraft electrical circuits, afterburning turbofan jet engine etc. The more aircraft you do the more parts you have on the shelf. I think IIRC Yo-Yo saying that WW2 aircraft would take only 6 months to create with all the correct info in hand, now they had come up with the code for the model and piston engines to create these types of aircraft.

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Took me three days but the STRS page is now functional. It is buggy but that's to be expected. I'll have it 100% operational and 95% free of bugs by Friday.

After the STRS page the next to be worked on will be the TPOD (LITENING) page.

 

 

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Zeus67 on FP page you said the loadout had an AGM 65K, I can't see it on this page is it on another page?

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@Zeus67,

 

Amazing work and keep the updates up. loving this dev interactions!

 

Do you think that with more "US aircraft" it will be easier to get things done with other similar aircraft? in other words how much do the "for example" existing DCS: A-10c systems architecture help in the development speed/ease of the AV8IINA?

 

I think most if not all but the basic code is proprietary, I.E. build your own code library, ED supply's basic code and function. Not quite sure about other high tech developments going on now tho?

 

I always looked at all this (correct me if I'm wrong), as the code that's been created by the developer would be somewhat coded like its a module in the module that can be redesigned or tweaked for something else. Like aircraft electrical circuits, afterburning turbofan jet engine etc. The more aircraft you do the more parts you have on the shelf. I think IIRC Yo-Yo saying that WW2 aircraft would take only 6 months to create with all the correct info in hand, now they had come up with the code for the model and piston engines to create these types of aircraft.

 

Building these mods is like building plastic models, the more you do the more "spare parts" you have. Also the learning curve gets shallower with each new project.

 

Having said that, each new aircraft is unique and have its own challenges. There are not two aircraft that have the same avionics even if they are built by the same manufacturer. So we do share code between projects but at the same time that code must be modified to fit the aircraft.

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Zeus67 on FP page you said the loadout had an AGM 65K, I can't see it on this page is it on another page?

 

It is there. It is identified by the CCDMV label.

Mavericks are identified by seeker type:

AGM-65D == IRMV

AGM-65E == LSRMV

AGM-65K == CCDMV

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Building these mods is like building plastic models, the more you do the more "spare parts" you have. Also the learning curve gets shallower with each new project.

 

Having said that, each new aircraft is unique and have its own challenges. There are not two aircraft that have the same avionics even if they are built by the same manufacturer. So we do share code between projects but at the same time that code must be modified to fit the aircraft.

 

Thanks for the response. @Zeus67.

 

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I sure hope that code is not proprietary, yeah some of the modules might locked by OEM contract , but in a small dev environment like this that can really add a huge redundancy in development time and learning curve.


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Building these mods is like building plastic models, the more you do the more "spare parts" you have. Also the learning curve gets shallower with each new project.

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This thread is really good, its really interesting to see how a module is put together.

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Sorry for asking such a trivial question, but the stuff we're seeing is very early development progress right? Granted, it is going extremely quickly.

 

A lot of the people I've talked to seem to think that lots of eye candy = almost ready.

DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule.

 

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Sorry for asking such a trivial question, but the stuff we're seeing is very early development progress right? Granted, it is going extremely quickly.

 

A lot of the people I've talked to seem to think that lots of eye candy = almost ready.

NO..that´s the real deal progress, no more eye candy, of course some stuff is still work of progress but none of it it´s code related

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Sorry for asking such a trivial question, but the stuff we're seeing is very early development progress right? Granted, it is going extremely quickly.

 

A lot of the people I've talked to seem to think that lots of eye candy = almost ready.

 

It is the real deal and also it is not almost ready. The AV-8B is a complex aircraft with more complex instruments than the M-2000C. What you are seeing are systems that are "ready for testing" but there are still a lot of them to be developed before the aircraft is "ready for integral test".

 

The MPCDs have 18 main pages. Some of those have as much as 7 subpages. In total there are about 40 pages to be coded. Many will be fully functional, some will be partially functional and some will be barely functional. It depends on available information and if DCS can support that functionality. For example the IFF page has several modes and a couple of subpages but since there is no IFF in DCS it will never be fully functional.

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Can you guys already estimate in which condition this will hit early access? Will it be similar to the Mirage (basics working, but a lot of stuff still to be done) or are you aiming for a more complete release this time?

 

Either way is fine by me, I'd just like to know what to expect. :)

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Can you guys already estimate in which condition this will hit early access? Will it be similar to the Mirage (basics working, but a lot of stuff still to be done) or are you aiming for a more complete release this time?

 

Either way is fine by me, I'd just like to know what to expect. :)

 

Very likely when all the basics are working. But that must be determined yet.

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As promised the bug was found and squashed. Now the STRS page is working as intended. And look! The AA gunsight page is ready as well! Here we have the Long Range AA Gunsight (the small dashed circle) and the Short Range AA Gunsight (the big circle). The long range sight is fixed at 2,400 feet. The short range sight is fixed at 1,200 feet. Now I need to boresight them.

 

 

 

The AIM-9 sights will be ready tomorrow. Promise!

 

 

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Friking Great work!

 

Zeus67, A very small request, can we get some spread on the guns? Like the current F15C in game or the f-5 Tiger?

 

It seems there are some aircraft in DCS that have it and some are "pin point" grouping, "M2000 has that issue as well same with some Russian aircraft in DCS"

 

Also a great documentary about the GUA-12/u

 

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F-5 tiger guns spread is way too big, it's already been reported.

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It is there. It is identified by the CCDMV label.

Mavericks are identified by seeker type:

AGM-65D == IRMV

AGM-65E == LSRMV

AGM-65K == CCDMV

Sorry, if this was always asked and answered: Will you develop your own AGM-65E or will you able to use the one from ED, which was removed for the A-10C some time ago?

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Sorry, if this was always asked and answered: Will you develop your own AGM-65E or will you able to use the one from ED, which was removed for the A-10C some time ago?

 

Interesting question, especially if you're considering that it will propbably be reintroduced by ED with the F/A-18C.

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