BaconSarnie Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Nice handbrake turn there at the end lol And lo, Reverend Vegas did say "Take forth unto the infidel the mighty GAU 8 and expend its holy 30MM so that freedom will be brung upon them who knoweth not the joys of BBBBBBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTT" "Amen"
Zeus67 Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Nice handbrake turn there at the end lol Yeah. He was braking too soon. Should have allowed speed to drop more. A few comments: 1. Next time move the seat up. Helps a lot with the visibility 2. Try to keep 14° AOA. Helps a lot. You have to put the FPM and the chevrons inside the brackets. 3. On landing do an aerobrake (keep the nose up until you bleed enough speed for it to drop). If you can't (I can't do that), open the air brakes. They will help you bleed speed fast. 4. Wait for your speed to drop below 100 knots before applying wheel brakes or you will experience a handbrake turn (You did!). Congrats on landing in one piece in a storm. :thumbup: And that video shows why the synth runway is a big help. We will deal with the problems in due time. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
tflash Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Very nice ILS implementation indeed!!! The synth runway is great! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Zethlol Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Hello, I'm trying to figure ILS out and I can't manage to make it work properly. First off I created a new mission with a waypoint on the airfield, since INS editing is not working atm. 1. I take off and dial in the airport ILS and Radio frequencies. 2. I request inbound and head to the final approach waypoint. 3. I switch to APP and wait to intercept the glide slope. 4. Once I'm in glideslope range I can see the ILS guide which in my mission, as I'm coming perpendicular to the glideslope, tells me to adjust my course to the right. I follow the instruction but I can never manage to do it right. Is there some kind of guide I can follow on how to do it properly?
bolt69 Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Hi all, Please find a link to the first version of a small tutorial I made (thanks to the help of some nice guys on http://www.checksix-forums.com :-)) https://www.dropbox.com/s/7nqs1kmjnbz55jc/DCS%20M2000%20ILS.pdf?dl=0 This a very simple version. I will probably update it soon.
bolt69 Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 What a rock&roll landing Juetat2 :thumbup::thumbup::):)
TomCatMucDe Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Hi all, Please find a link to the first version of a small tutorial I made (thanks to the help of some nice guys on http://www.checksix-forums.com :-)) https://www.dropbox.com/s/7nqs1kmjnbz55jc/DCS%20M2000%20ILS.pdf?dl=0 This a very simple version. I will probably update it soon. Excellent !
jojo Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Here's my incredibly difficult heavy storm landing using ILS. I would have never been able to land without it. Hi, nice try. With respect, you should have go down earlier, and level off in the cloud. Then engage auto pilot and peacefully plan your approach. Before going down, preset: - RAD ALT : M + SEL H, RAD ALT set to decision height - TACAN/ ILS frequencies Descent -10°/ 300kt Air Brakes out. Try to level off 10Nm from air field and 1500ft above airfield height. Retract AB, adjust throttle and engage auto pilot (FPM on horizon). Now you can adjust flight path and course with trim command. Engage APP mode on PCA and adjust seat to see the tip of your nose through the HUD. First you capture LOC. Try to intercept it under 45° max. Adjust course to put FPM -O- inside open box U. Reduce speed. Adjust throttle to keep 14° AoA, it should give you speed between 140-160kt. Faster you're probably too heavy. When you capture glide, the box is closed and start drifting down, adjust FPM to stay inside with both ROLL and PITCH trim command. Align >] -O- [< in the box. Disengage AP at decision height (it's wise to have the command on HOTAS) and finish in manual mode to land, AP don't flare. 1 Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
mattbx Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Hi all, Please find a link to the first version of a small tutorial I made (thanks to the help of some nice guys on http://www.checksix-forums.com :-)) https://www.dropbox.com/s/7nqs1kmjnbz55jc/DCS%20M2000%20ILS.pdf?dl=0 This a very simple version. I will probably update it soon. nice!! thanks a lot
=4c=Nikola Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Real synthetic runway rely on INS data + ILS. But we don't have full INS yet. So there must be some kind of work around here. However, synthetic runway is cool but not mandatory to ILS landing. You can perform ILS procedure without synthetic runway. Are you sure that 70' era INS can provide such accuracy? Do not expect fairness. The times of chivalry and fair competition are long gone.
jojo Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Like I said, it's INS + ILS, not pure INS or pure ILS when it's about synthetic runway. And it's not 70', it's 80' :smilewink: Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
=4c=Nikola Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Like I said, it's INS + ILS, not pure INS or pure ILS when it's about synthetic runway. And it's not 70', it's 80' :smilewink: Interesting. Do you have any documentation how the system works? 70' or 80' not so big difference. Do not expect fairness. The times of chivalry and fair competition are long gone.
T0x1s Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Hi all, Please find a link to the first version of a small tutorial I made (thanks to the help of some nice guys on http://www.checksix-forums.com :-)) https://www.dropbox.com/s/7nqs1kmjnbz55jc/DCS%20M2000%20ILS.pdf?dl=0 This a very simple version. I will probably update it soon. Thanks for this! A question: How do you get the box around the runway? Shown here: Thanks IvanK for the pic
Zeus67 Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Thanks for this! A question: How do you get the box around the runway? Shown here: Thanks IvanK for the pic In this particular case there is a disconnect between the ILS station being used and the runway selected by the INS. Normally the ILS station and the runway will coincide so by this time the synth runway and the box would be aligned. "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." "The three most dangerous things in the world are a programmer with a soldering iron, a hardware type with a program patch and a user with an idea."
Jackdaws Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Hi all, Please find a link to the first version of a small tutorial I made (thanks to the help of some nice guys on http://www.checksix-forums.com :-)) https://www.dropbox.com/s/7nqs1kmjnbz55jc/DCS%20M2000%20ILS.pdf?dl=0 This a very simple version. I will probably update it soon. That will help a lot of people. good work. My Files..... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Flagrum Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 In this particular case there is a disconnect between the ILS station being used and the runway selected by the INS. Normally the ILS station and the runway will coincide so by this time the synth runway and the box would be aligned. So, is this a bug in the code that loads a mission editor route into the INS at mission start?
J3ST3R Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 I'm guessing im being stupid or something but I can't get the synthetic runway display to work. Iv made a mission ending at sochi alder, tuned in the ils but get no synthetic runway on the hud. What am I missing? INTEL i9 9900k @ 5Ghz, Asus Z390 strix ROG, 32gb 3200mhz Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080Ti, Corsair RM850i, Corsair H110i,, HP REVERB, Win 10 64bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Chump Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Make sure that your landing gear are down and APP mode is selected.
J3ST3R Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Yep, I forgot to mention that bit, do I need to change anything on the INS or HSI? INTEL i9 9900k @ 5Ghz, Asus Z390 strix ROG, 32gb 3200mhz Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080Ti, Corsair RM850i, Corsair H110i,, HP REVERB, Win 10 64bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Chump Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Make sure that INS is set to NAV, PCN is set to N, and HSI is set to Cv NAV or Cm NAV.
J3ST3R Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Awesome. Thanks chump! INTEL i9 9900k @ 5Ghz, Asus Z390 strix ROG, 32gb 3200mhz Ram, Nvidia GTX 1080Ti, Corsair RM850i, Corsair H110i,, HP REVERB, Win 10 64bit. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Elefant1301 Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 Be sure too that the HUD is not in test mode.
TomCatMucDe Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 is the open box working? for me it is all the time somewhere and i turn to catch it, even after 360 deg it is not in the middle. i did a couple of bad weather landing but thanks to NAV and the closed box. where is it supposed to be for a good approach?
rrohde Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 I believe the open box becomes the closed box only after the localizer and/or glideslope has been caught. PC: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X | MSI Suprim GeForce 3090 TI | ASUS Prime X570-P | 128GB DDR4 3600 RAM | 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD | Win10 Pro 64bit Gear: HP Reverb G2 | JetPad FSE | VKB Gunfighter Pro Mk.III w/ MCG Ultimate VKBcontrollers.com
DocSigma Posted December 31, 2015 Posted December 31, 2015 is the open box working? for me it is all the time somewhere and i turn to catch it, even after 360 deg it is not in the middle. i did a couple of bad weather landing but thanks to NAV and the closed box. where is it supposed to be for a good approach? I think there is a bug when you intersect - not capture - the glide slope. It is impossible to center the open box, much less place the fpm within the box; it's been impossible to center it on the HUD. I'm no expert and I'm probably wrong as to what to fly once you intersect the GS, but getting the fpm inside the open box has been impossible. Once the Glideslope is catured and the open box becomes a closed box, everything seems to be working as it should. Perhaps someone can clarify what indicators to fly prior to glide slope intersect - the open box phase. Ryzen9 5800X3D, Gigabyte Aorus X570 Elite, 32Gb Gskill Trident DDR4 3600 CL16, Samsung 990 Pr0 1Tb Nvme Gen4, Evo860 1Tb 2.5 SSD and Team 1Tb 2.5 SSD, MSI Suprim X RTX4090 , Corsair h115i Platinum AIO, NZXT H710i case, Seasonic Focus 850W psu, Gigabyte Aorus AD27QHD Gsync 1ms IPS 2k monitor 144Mhz, Track ir4, VKB Gunfighter Ultimate w/extension, Virpil T50 CM3 Throttle, Saitek terrible pedals, RiftS
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