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Nice handbrake turn there at the end lol

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Nice handbrake turn there at the end lol

Yeah. He was braking too soon. Should have allowed speed to drop more.

 

A few comments:

 

1. Next time move the seat up. Helps a lot with the visibility

2. Try to keep 14° AOA. Helps a lot. You have to put the FPM and the chevrons inside the brackets.

3. On landing do an aerobrake (keep the nose up until you bleed enough speed for it to drop). If you can't (I can't do that), open the air brakes. They will help you bleed speed fast.

4. Wait for your speed to drop below 100 knots before applying wheel brakes or you will experience a handbrake turn (You did!).

 

Congrats on landing in one piece in a storm. :thumbup:

 

And that video shows why the synth runway is a big help. We will deal with the problems in due time.

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Hello, I'm trying to figure ILS out and I can't manage to make it work properly.

 

First off I created a new mission with a waypoint on the airfield, since INS editing is not working atm.

 

1. I take off and dial in the airport ILS and Radio frequencies.

2. I request inbound and head to the final approach waypoint.

3. I switch to APP and wait to intercept the glide slope.

4. Once I'm in glideslope range I can see the ILS guide which in my mission, as I'm coming perpendicular to the glideslope, tells me to adjust my course to the right. I follow the instruction but I can never manage to do it right.

 

Is there some kind of guide I can follow on how to do it properly?

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Here's my incredibly difficult heavy storm landing using ILS. I would have never been able to land without it.

 

 

Hi, nice try.

 

With respect, you should have go down earlier, and level off in the cloud.

Then engage auto pilot and peacefully plan your approach.

 

Before going down, preset:

- RAD ALT : M + SEL H, RAD ALT set to decision height

- TACAN/ ILS frequencies

 

Descent -10°/ 300kt Air Brakes out.

Try to level off 10Nm from air field and 1500ft above airfield height.

Retract AB, adjust throttle and engage auto pilot (FPM on horizon).

Now you can adjust flight path and course with trim command.

 

Engage APP mode on PCA and adjust seat to see the tip of your nose through the HUD.

 

First you capture LOC. Try to intercept it under 45° max.

Adjust course to put FPM -O- inside open box U.

Reduce speed.

Adjust throttle to keep 14° AoA, it should give you speed between 140-160kt. Faster you're probably too heavy.

 

When you capture glide, the box is closed and start drifting down, adjust FPM to stay inside with both ROLL and PITCH trim command.

Align >] -O- [< in the box.

 

Disengage AP at decision height (it's wise to have the command on HOTAS) and finish in manual mode to land, AP don't flare.

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Real synthetic runway rely on INS data + ILS.

 

But we don't have full INS yet.

So there must be some kind of work around here.

 

However, synthetic runway is cool but not mandatory to ILS landing.

 

You can perform ILS procedure without synthetic runway.

 

Are you sure that 70' era INS can provide such accuracy?

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Like I said, it's INS + ILS, not pure INS or pure ILS when it's about synthetic runway.

 

And it's not 70', it's 80' :smilewink:

 

Interesting. Do you have any documentation how the system works?

 

70' or 80' not so big difference.

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Thanks for this!

 

A question: How do you get the box around the runway?

 

Shown here: KuaYOKe.jpg

 

Thanks IvanK for the pic

 

In this particular case there is a disconnect between the ILS station being used and the runway selected by the INS.

 

Normally the ILS station and the runway will coincide so by this time the synth runway and the box would be aligned.

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In this particular case there is a disconnect between the ILS station being used and the runway selected by the INS.

 

Normally the ILS station and the runway will coincide so by this time the synth runway and the box would be aligned.

So, is this a bug in the code that loads a mission editor route into the INS at mission start?

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I'm guessing im being stupid or something but I can't get the synthetic runway display to work. Iv made a mission ending at sochi alder, tuned in the ils but get no synthetic runway on the hud. What am I missing?

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Yep, I forgot to mention that bit, do I need to change anything on the INS or HSI?

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Awesome. Thanks chump!

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is the open box working? for me it is all the time somewhere and i turn to catch it, even after 360 deg it is not in the middle. i did a couple of bad weather landing but thanks to NAV and the closed box.

 

where is it supposed to be for a good approach?

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I believe the open box becomes the closed box only after the localizer and/or glideslope has been caught.

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is the open box working? for me it is all the time somewhere and i turn to catch it, even after 360 deg it is not in the middle. i did a couple of bad weather landing but thanks to NAV and the closed box.

 

where is it supposed to be for a good approach?

 

 

I think there is a bug when you intersect - not capture - the glide slope. It is impossible to center the open box, much less place the fpm within the box; it's been impossible to center it on the HUD. I'm no expert and I'm probably wrong as to what to fly once you intersect the GS, but getting the fpm inside the open box has been impossible. Once the Glideslope is catured and the open box becomes a closed box, everything seems to be working as it should. Perhaps someone can clarify what indicators to fly prior to glide slope intersect - the open box phase.

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