kintaro Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Hi, I'm currently running version 1.5.2.49392. I'm not sure which version introduced this (somewhere after 1.5), but I'm experiencing erratic pilot head movement to a level that it is very annoying. Whenever the helicopter is entering translational lift, the pilots head looks almost to his feet and a few seconds have to pass until it returns to the normal view. I know that there is a lot of vibration is experienced when entering/leaving TL, but I never experienced my head tossed around during it (real life mi-8 pilot here). Can you please return to the previous (pre 1.5) head movement model? (Or at least make it switchable) It is especially annoying during rolling takeoffs. A friend running the same version confirmed, that it is not an isolated problem on my part. Thank you! Matt Edited February 10, 2016 by kintaro
Devrim Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 Confirm. I experience same exaggerate head shake! Lately I'm starting to be scared when entering translational lift... I say "oh not again..." :( Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
Cibit Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 Is it anything to do with misc tab in options with G force moves head check box? I never notice any violent movement when entering translational lift i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 Is it anything to do with misc tab in options with G force moves head check box? I never notice any violent movement when entering translational lift Yeah, That's it. It is a useless feature wich can be anoying, especially if you use track IR. I turned it off immediatly. Happy Flying! :pilotfly:
Devrim Posted February 11, 2016 Posted February 11, 2016 Interesting. It's enabled for me, but it doesn't affect too much (or none) in other modules. I didn't think it's that option. I'll disable it, thanks anyway! Aaaand, guys; I don't want to hijack this thread but, you as Mi-8 pilots, experience this problem? If yes, please add post there. :) Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
kintaro Posted February 20, 2016 Author Posted February 20, 2016 (edited) Fixed with 1.5.3.!!! Thank you! (had nothing to do with the "G force moves head" check box, checked or unchecked produced the same abnormal movement in 1.5.2, but now with 1.5.3, its gone!) Edited February 20, 2016 by kintaro
Nealius Posted February 23, 2016 Posted February 23, 2016 I'm still getting it with 1.5.3 for some reason.
CoBlue Posted February 24, 2016 Posted February 24, 2016 (edited) I'm also getting it in 1.5.3? I think it's connected to collective movements, not just in transitional lift. But it's most notable during transitional lift. I didn't have this erratic head movement before. I always had "G force moves head" unchecked. Edited February 25, 2016 by CoBlue i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR.
CoBlue Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 After more testing, the head-shaking is connected to transitional lift. It's very annoying! I've reinstalled the Mi-8, but no joy. Can someone from BT look at this & give advise on what to do? i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR.
1.JaVA_Platypus Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 D@mn it... for us who doesn't have this problem, it is very hard to imagine what exactly is wrong. Can someone make a video of it? Not a track, that probably won't work on my machine, a video on YouTube. Happy Flying! :pilotfly:
CoBlue Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 I'm still getting it with the latest update v 1.5.3.51417 ! Can BT take a look at this? i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR.
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Nichts Posted May 16, 2016 Posted May 16, 2016 Any news on this? I tried to delete users data and messed around in views.lua without success. Mi-8 used to be my favourite module but now there’s no more fun flying it :( please note: english isn’t my first language, I‘m still learning. Please feel free to contact me when you think something I wrote is not clear, simply wrong or just should be corrected – thx
CoBlue Posted May 16, 2016 Posted May 16, 2016 Yes I still have it & no word from Belsimtek.....track bellow. But I will get their attention! i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR.
Pajama Pilot Posted May 18, 2016 Posted May 18, 2016 I can confirm that too. Very unnatural and exagerated head movement. An unpleasent effect at this flight stage that almost ruins the simulation. Cheers Windows 10 64-bit * AMD Ryzen 7 2700 * Ram 32 GB DDR4-2666 * Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB * NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Dual OC * Saitek X-52/MFFB2, CH rudder pedals [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Looney Posted May 19, 2016 Posted May 19, 2016 At what time stamps in the video can one see the effect? For me it looks normal... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commodore 64 | MOS6510 | VIC-II | SID6581 | DD 1541 | KCS Power Cartridge | 64Kb | 32Kb external | Arcade Turbo
TAnker737 Posted May 21, 2016 Posted May 21, 2016 It seems to take effect when the Mi-8 starts transition from translational lift to a hover and vice versa. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel i7 3930K @ 4.7Ghz | 980ti | 32gb Ram | Windows 10 64 bit | 840 Pro SSD Thrustmaster Warthog | VKB Gunfighter Pro | Slaw Device RX Viper | Acer Predator X34
CoBlue Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 At what time stamps in the video can one see the effect? For me it looks normal... It's every 1-2 sec, clearly visible....normal? maybe you've been flying with this "shaking" the whole time & think it's supposed to be like that. But I can assure you it's not normal. Compare with other Mi-8 videos. I've got the Erratic head movement in 2.0 as well. It's been 3 months now since I reported this! Belsimtek you customer service & support is totally non-existent :doh: I hope you realize how bad this is for your business & the goodwill of your company. i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR.
CoBlue Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 Why isn't Belsimtek responding to bugs ??? It's 3 months now Belsimtek...how long are we supposed to wait ??? :doh: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2798139#post2798139 http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2798140#post2798140 i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR.
kazereal Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 Or that work required would be enormous for a minor visual glitch. Or that it needs work that would be obsolete at one point. Or there are more immediate concerns to solve for any reason. There are numerous reasons why a bug is not reacted to, often simply it is about prioritizing developer time. Just because you have it as a pet does not mean everyone cares about it same way, end-users don't see the ton of things happening "behind the scenes", so to speak. "I would have written a shorter post, but I did not have the time."
Slazi Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 Has it even been confirmed as a bug? I thought this was by design. Isn't it just the shaking of the airframe?
AlphaOneSix Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 The airframe shaking is by design. I think the issue being referred to is that the head position "jumps" every now and then during the shaking.
CoBlue Posted June 2, 2016 Posted June 2, 2016 (edited) It's not by design. Cockpit shaking & "erratic head movement" are 2 different things, see the video on the link above. I didn't have "erratic head movement" before, it started 4-5 months ago. Or that work required would be enormous for a minor visual glitch. It's not a "minor visual glitch" having the whole Screen jumping every 2-3 sec makes it totally un-flyable for me. Edited June 2, 2016 by CoBlue i7 8700k@4.7, 1080ti, DDR4 32GB, 2x SSD , HD 2TB, W10, ASUS 27", TrackIr5, TMWH, X-56, GProR.
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