Any news on bombers?

[El Hadji]

Am I the only one thinking it is awfully quiet on the bomber front for DCS Normandy? How are we going to get even remotely realistic gameplay with just fighters? I know there is a Ju-87 planned but other than that I only see talks about fighters.

 

The lack of bombers will also be a problem for realistic multiplayer. Dogfighting for the sake of dogfighting seems kind of boring in the long run. Since Il-2 Battle of Stalingrad/Moscow got their act together I hardly ever touch the DCS warbirds (this is NOT a Il-2/DCS comparison thread btw). There is simply no immersion flying them and I doubt that we will have any real immersion without being able to fly escort missions or proper ground attacks. Since DCS now allows for more than one player in a plane it seems as a no-brainer to have planes with gunners.

 

Instead of Hortens, new scenarios (since Normandy isn't ready yet) and aircraft carriers it would be great to have at least one allied and one axis medium bomber. Of course B-17's and Lancasters would be awesome but I would be happy with lighter aircraft as well. As long as they aren't fighters...

Edited April 10, 2016 by El Hadji

[dooom]

i am hoping we are in for surprises... it does feel odd that simple AI bombers have never been discussed as it is obviously a major point for servicing the propellor customers.

[=DECOY=]

I really think we will need a Lancaster old chap?

[Silver_Dragon]

Expected after P-47, ED can start to implement a multi-engine pilot-able bomber, and wait to see what coming whit Normandy map AI units. Meanwhile, awaiting news.

[msalama]

I really think we will need a Lancaster old chap?

 

Would love to pilot one, but we'd need a large map for proper strategic bombing as well. So give us, say, a Havoc and/or a Mitchell first - and an expanded map plus some heavies later! Now how 'bout THAT auld chap ;)

[eekz]

ED can start to implement a multi-engine pilot-able bomber,.

 

B-17!! B-17!! B-17!! Would pay any sum of money if made at ED level of detalization with multicrew!

 

Join my B-17 club !!!. Nothing special needed, just add a request to your signature if you want one :)

[71st_AH Rob]

Would love to pilot one, but we'd need a large map for proper strategic bombing as well. So give us, say, a Havoc and/or a Mitchell first - and an expanded map plus some heavies later! Now how 'bout THAT auld chap ;)

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[nervousenergy]

Heck, just re-skin one of the AI modern transports that's in the game already and fix it's speed to a prop bomber. Not optimal, sure, but really easy.

[Eclipse]

Bombers are definitely needed. Pilot-able preferably, but I would settle for AI only in the short-term to get them involved sooner.

 

The connection to the plane and appreciation of the details is vastly superior in DCS than in anything else I have played. The Bombers, along with the period-appropriate map, structures, and ground units, would make DCS the absolute top on all marks, in my opinion.

[NineLine]

Am I the only one thinking it is awfully quiet on the bomber front for DCS Normandy? How are we going to get even remotely realistic gameplay with just fighters? I know there is a Ju-87 planned but other than that I only see talks about fighters.

 

The lack of bombers will also be a problem for realistic multiplayer. Dogfighting for the sake of dogfighting seems kind of boring in the long run. Since Il-2 Battle of Stalingrad/Moscow got their act together I hardly ever touch the DCS warbirds (this is NOT a Il-2/DCS comparison thread btw). There is simply no immersion flying them and I doubt that we will have any real immersion without being able to fly escort missions or proper ground attacks. Since DCS now allows for more than one player in a plane it seems as a no-brainer to have planes with gunners.

 

Instead of Hortens, new scenarios (since Normandy isn't ready yet) and aircraft carriers it would be great to have at least one allied and one axis medium bomber. Of course B-17's and Lancasters would be awesome but I would be happy with lighter aircraft as well. As long as they aren't fighters...

 

If there are any bombers coming right now they will most certainly be AI only. We know the B-17 is coming AI that is, VEAO is working on a Lancaster at somepoint.

[Eclipse]

If there are any bombers coming right now they will most certainly be AI only. We know the B-17 is coming AI that is, VEAO is working on a Lancaster at somepoint.

 

Good news that they are coming! Would it be safe to assume that Axis will get a bomber or two, as well?

[NineLine]

Good news that they are coming! Would it be safe to assume that Axis will get a bomber or two, as well?

 

I would hope so, but I dont know what they have planned as of yet as far as a unit list for AI

[NeilWillis]

Would love to pilot one, but we'd need a large map for proper strategic bombing as well. So give us, say, a Havoc and/or a Mitchell first - and an expanded map plus some heavies later! Now how 'bout THAT auld chap ;)

 

Not strictly true. During the run up to D-Day, the strategic bomber force were employed just behind the beaches, and over railway infrastructure. As long as you have Lincolnshire, and all points South, and say 1 or 2 hundred miles inland from the channel coast, you could recreate accurate missions for that time period.

[Hueyman]

Can't hope for anything better than a DCS level B-17F ...

[Para_Bellum]

Can't hope for anything better than a DCS level B-17F ...

 

Well, a DCS level B-17 G.

 

;)

[Hueyman]

While the G is certainly better fitted for the time period, and better equipped, I found the F more sexy without that chin turret, but obviously that's a personally choice and so not really defendable ;-)

 

But having always the latest and most upgraded version of each warbird isn't obviously a good thing, knowing the weakness of each plane and how to turn them into advantages is also a big part of the fun !

[Legioneod]

I would love to see the B-24, I know its not the most popular bomber of the war but shes my favorite, and in my opinion she is the best looking bomber.

[Weedwacker]

If they would release a game like Microprose "B-17 Flying Fortress: The Mighty Eight' for a DCS level of B17, it would be amazing, with real people gunning for you and a navigator/bomber guy, order the crew around. Deal with systems failing under attack...."ENGINE 3 ON FIRE, SHUTTING HER DOWN" "109s 11 OCLOCK HIGH!!!!"

 

I swear between this and War thunder not making any bomber cockpits makes me wonder if businesses are all trying to tie into upcoming HBO mini series 'the mighty eighth' (think band of brothers/the pacific with a bomber crew) and drop surprise announcements.

[Legioneod]

If they would release a game like Microprose "B-17 Flying Fortress: The Mighty Eight' for a DCS level of B17, it would be amazing, with real people gunning for you and a navigator/bomber guy, order the crew around. Deal with systems failing under attack...."ENGINE 3 ON FIRE, SHUTTING HER DOWN" "109s 11 OCLOCK HIGH!!!!"

 

I swear between this and War thunder not making any bomber cockpits makes me wonder if businesses are all trying to tie into upcoming HBO mini series 'the mighty eighth' (think band of brothers/the pacific with a bomber crew) and drop surprise announcements.

 

Can't wait for that series to come out. Band of Brothers and The Pacific were great series so I have high hopes for the Mighty Eighth

[Call911]

B-17-B-25-Lancaster- they'd all work :D Is'nt there currently a prop bomber ingame already on RU side(not sure which). Imagine filling the Georgia/Normandy sky with contrails from B-17's etc, now that day will be sumptin..can't wait. Even if it's ai to start. I think once we see true multicrew the flood gates will open up. I mean it's not like ED does'nt realise the sh.. tons of $ they could make off this.

[Legioneod]

B-17-B-25-Lancaster- they'd all work :D Is'nt there currently a prop bomber ingame already on RU side(not sure which). Imagine filling the Georgia/Normandy sky with contrails from B-17's etc, now that day will be sumptin..can't wait. Even if it's ai to start. I think once we see true multicrew the flood gates will open up. I mean it's not like ED does'nt realise the sh.. tons of $ they could make off this.

 

Gonna be sweet.

I for one don't really mind if the multi crew is limited to 2-3 players like Pilot, Co-Pilot, and a player to man the different crew positions. Or just a pilot and co-pilot to where the co-pilot can switch between crew positions.

[Nerd1000]

B-17-B-25-Lancaster- they'd all work :D Is'nt there currently a prop bomber ingame already on RU side(not sure which).

Yes, the Tu-95 'bear'. It's roughly comparable to the B-52.

[Weedwacker]

Okay, now I think the only way to do this would be a 'Star Citizen' style type interior for b17/b24/lancaster types.

 

Meaning, basically you can leave your seat and move around to the various stations (gunner spots, radio, nav/bomb).

 

It's the only way now to do these planes justice, plus it would be the virtual equivilant of a real passenger ride now.

 

Holy crap, maybe they are really already doing this...

 

just modeling the Dorsal and belly gun positions would require a lot of work to get correct and right.

 

Imagine, watching your online squadron or 8 friends all lining up on the tarmac, marching out the the bomber.

 

Everyone climbing in, posing for screenshots...., then each man goes to his postion and presses the "sit/man" button and then u get a cute animation of him taking his seat or or climbing into the gunner spot.

 

Infact, now i wish we actually had to walk up to anyplane now and "climb in" lol ala star citizen, i believe

Edited April 25, 2016 by Weedwacker

[Alicatt]

Okay, now I think the only way to do this would be a 'Star Citizen' style type interior for b17/b24/lancaster types.

 

Infact, now i wish we actually had to walk up to anyplane now and "climb in" lol ala star citizen, i believe

Just how do we import a Retaliator into DCS?

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