Snacko Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 Snack Officer Intel I9-10850K (OC @ 5.0ghz) │ 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 3200 │Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24gb - ҉ - Blackshark Cockpit Trainer - ҉ - ♣ Thread | ♥ Download
QuiGon Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) :lol: A true living legend :pilotfly: "The first time I ever saw a jet, I shot it down." — General Chuck Yeager, USAF, describing his first confrontation with a Me262. Edited April 18, 2016 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
KLR Rico Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 :thumbup: Awesome! I did a report on him in grade school after being inspired by all the "Chuck Yeager's Advanced Flight Simulator" I was playing. :joystick: i5-4670K@4.5GHz / 16 GB RAM / SSD / GTX1080 Rift CV1 / G-seat / modded FFB HOTAS
Neon67 Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Dumb question, why is it stupid? how would you know otherwise ?
Shahdoh Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 From Yeager's era of flight, seat of the pants flying, stick positions, all told you what your Angle of attack was, thus, this indicator is meaningless. There is still the seat of the pants feel of the a/c but fly by wire takes away the stick position information so in modern era flying, is a helpful instrument. Though one with enough experience, would not need. 1
RoflSeal Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Dumb question, why is it stupid? how would you know otherwise ? The top 1% are blessed with an ass that can feel everything in a plane.
QuiGon Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Does anyone know if General Yeager ever flew the F-15 in the front seat (or single seat)? There was another honor flight in 1997 and wikipedia says this: Yeager is fully retired from military test flying, after having maintained that status for three decades after his official retirement from the Air Force. On October 14, 1997, on the 50th anniversary of his historic flight past Mach 1, he flew a new Glamorous Glennis III, an F-15D Eagle, past Mach 1. The chase plane for the flight was an F-15 Fighting Falcon piloted by Bob Hoover, a legendary air-show pilot who had been Yeager's wingman for the first supersonic flight. This was Yeager's last official flight with the U.S. Air Force. At the end of his speech to the crowd, Yeager concluded, "All that I am ... I owe to the Air Force."It doesn't say if he was flying or in the backseat. He retired one year after the F-15 was put into regular service in the USAF, so maybe there were other opportunities? Edited April 18, 2016 by QuiGon Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Aginor Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Yeager just doesn't realize it could be important. He has never flown a plane that could maneuver at high AoAs. In those 3rd, 4th and later generation planes your ass feeling is worth almost nothing anymore. Reading his biography IIRC he knows that, and he admits that for "blessed with skill Hillbillies" like him a modern plane is hard to fly. You have to be more of a computer geek than a old school pilot. Guys like him (I think he once called himself "too dumb to have fear") were perfect in earlier times but not nowadays. You just need different skills now. Also he is kind of a jerk. He also admits that himself. But he is a funny guy. DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
Vincent90 Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Check 1:55, what the hell happened to the front of that canopy?! @Aginor: Sounds like a great read, what is the title of the book?
cichlidfan Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) Here it is. I haven't read it in many years but it is worthwhile. http://www.amazon.com/Yeager-An-Autobiography-Chuck/dp/0553256742 There is also this one, which I am ashamed to admit, I have not read. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553053337/ref=s9_simh_gw_g14_i3_r?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-2&pf_rd_r=074H820JDVDQANB4SRJ2&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2437869762&pf_rd_i=desktop Edited April 18, 2016 by cichlidfan ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
zaelu Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 Reading this article makes you think if that is really a stupid instrument. http://www.flyingmag.com/aftermath-it-just-doesnt-compute [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
xxJohnxx Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 Reading this article makes you think if that is really a stupid instrument. http://www.flyingmag.com/aftermath-it-just-doesnt-compute Indeed the AOA indicator can be usefull in many situations. However, this article is jumping to weird conclusions, as most of the solutions they propose exist allready. Boeing (and I belive Airbus as well) have the option to display an AOA indicator on the PFD. Most airlines however, seem to decide against those. Additonally there is the option to enable a flight path vector like the one on the F-15 HUD, which could help in such situations as well. However, again, it seems most airlines have them disabled. Check out my YouTube: xxJohnxx Intel i7 6800k watercooled | ASUS Rampage V Edition 10 | 32 GB RAM | Asus GTX1080 watercooled
ShalashakaDS Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 The joke flew way over some people heads on this thread.
probad Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) apparently you're also a relic if you think a joke meter is a stupid instrument... Edited April 19, 2016 by probad
Snacko Posted April 19, 2016 Author Posted April 19, 2016 Yes it did, but the comments are interesting.. Snack Officer Intel I9-10850K (OC @ 5.0ghz) │ 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 3200 │Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC 24gb - ҉ - Blackshark Cockpit Trainer - ҉ - ♣ Thread | ♥ Download
Vitormouraa Posted April 20, 2016 Posted April 20, 2016 :megalol::megalol::megalol: What a lovely video, thank you for sharing. :smartass: SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com
GaryIKILLYOU Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 apparently you're also a relic if you think a joke meter is a stupid instrument... Because having more information available is for noobs! My Specs:Win 10 Pro 64bit/ i7 6770K 4.5Ghz/32GB DDR4/ GTX 1070 SC/Samsung SSD Warthog Stick/TWCS Throttle/TrackIR 5
Aginor Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 "See.. [points to AOA guage] To me that is...stupid instrument. It tells you what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." Is it just a "young people today have it too easy" type joke or did I miss something. I am not sure if he is joking actually. His book was filled to the brim with both joking and honest arrogance so I can't really tell at all when he does such remarks. ...but then I am German so I probably just don't have a feeling for jokes anyway. ;) DCSW weapons cheat sheet speed cheat sheet
QuiGon Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 I think you guys are taking this waaaaay to serious. He's an old fighter pilot, who flew in a different era where technology was not as it is today. Chuckle about it and just admire what he has achieved back in his days. :pilotfly: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Nooch Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Yes it's just a joke. I guess what he truly meant is nowadays pilots tend to rely on electronics too much sometimes and don't always pay enough attention to how they feel the plane. But I'm pretty sure he is aware of the fact that all this technology can be handy too. When making jokes we tend to take something that has a tiny bit of truth in it and emphasize it quite a bit. It shouldn't be taken seriously. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
QuiGon Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 Yes it's just a joke. I guess what he truly meant is nowadays pilots tend to rely on electronics too much sometimes and don't always pay enough attention to how they feel the plane. But I'm pretty sure he is aware of the fact that all this technology can be handy too. When making jokes we tend to take something that has a tiny bit of truth in it and emphasize it quite a bit. It shouldn't be taken seriously. Exactly, i couldn't have said it better :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
cichlidfan Posted April 21, 2016 Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) There is also this one, which I am ashamed to admit, I have not read. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553053337/ref=s9_simh_gw_g14_i3_r?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-2&pf_rd_r=074H820JDVDQANB4SRJ2&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2437869762&pf_rd_i=desktop In an effort to correct that oversight, I picked up a copy. I found a nice used autographed copy for a reasonable price. Don't know why the image got rotated, but... EDIT: Of course, I don't have any evidence of it's authenticity. Whoever ends up with it after I pass on, can worry about that. :) Edited April 21, 2016 by cichlidfan ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Jowen G. Bruère-Dawson Posted April 22, 2016 Posted April 22, 2016 Check 1:55, what the hell happened to the front of that canopy?! @Aginor: Sounds like a great read, what is the title of the book? Ouuh yep, missing panel !? Screws and PR outside i don't think it's normal ...
mvsgas Posted April 23, 2016 Posted April 23, 2016 He is 89 years old, do you guys know a 89 year old that does not say random things? :D Check 1:55, what the hell happened to the front of that canopy?! Nothing, that is how they look if the paint peels off. Here or here you can see the same thing but the paint is still on. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
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