New effects

[Aginor]

@Vitormouraa:

Yeah, kind of. Although I admit I am more a sucker for deep simulation than for pretty graphics, so for me the priorities are set a bit differently. That doesn't make your statement wrong though. :)

 

@SkateZilla:

Yes, the high G-load vapor is the most common one and probably the one that is most important for that reason while still doable (humidity + g-load being the parameters). The other vapor effects are more complicated, I don't expect transsonic vapor cones anytime soon.

....but actually... humidity over x% and speed between mach y and mach z could be doable...

 

EDIT: For props the blade tip vapor would be awesome....

[Vitormouraa]

@Vitormouraa:

Yeah, kind of. Although I admit I am more a sucker for deep simulation than for pretty graphics, so for me the priorities are set a bit differently.

 

Agreed. I started playing DCS 1.1 and as we know, it wasn't that beautiful.. I am in the sim because I do love the simulation, although visual matters for me. When they introduced the new vortex engine, that blow up my mind, it's not perfect (of course) I thought it was impossible to make something like that, but the animation is perfect, I'm pretty sure I can have the same feeling again in a near future. Not sure with which of those effects. :)

 

About the prop effect, that seems to be simple..

Edited July 1, 2016 by Vitormouraa

[Aginor]

Yeah, the new wing tip vapor effect looks really awesome. So do the new volumetric contrails.

[Vitormouraa]

Restored wingtip trails of propeller driven aircraft. Humidity factor added

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2828330&postcount=26

Edited July 1, 2016 by Vitormouraa

[Aginor]

I read it as humidity being a factor for wingtip trails. That's good. :)

[msalama]

Looking forward to all the new effects. :)

 

Well, one effect that came with the next-to-last Openbeta update (counting today's small patch) was a completely new night lighting environment. Looks pretty damn spiffy, plus runs very well too! Good stuff ED :)

[Vitormouraa]

Can you take a picture of it? so curious..

[msalama]

Can you take a picture of it? so curious..

I'll snap one later if I manage to fly tonight - lots of other stuff to do ATM. But will post if I can. S!

[adrianstealth]

rain hitting glass ....simple effect

 

hi all

 

I'm amazed how poor the rain looks in DCS world,

 

a simple rain droplets running over glass is really needed imo

 

[rrohde]

That's part of the updated effects that ED is working on. It'll come! :)

[cichlidfan]

Referring to it as simple, might be a bit of a stretch.

[msalama]

Well, I don't know what it is, but something weird happened last night.

 

When I first posted about this, the night environment in one of my missions was pretty bright and objects such as houses reflected light quite strongly. But then, I noticed my CP views were wonky and I deleted the view and server LUAs in the mission; they were ancient, so I thought I better get rid of them anyway. But when I ran the mission again, the night was VERY dark and objects had lost most of their reflectivity / luminance!

 

But some things seem to have changed regardless, and my guess is some v2.x elements were merged with v1.5b in the latest patch. Just a hunch, though, but I've got a feeling v2.5 isn't _that_ far away anymore :D I tried to snap some screenies too, but none of them came out right so they're not really worth posting here. Vitor, do you have the OB installed, so you could check if you see anything new on your end? Because it looks a bit like NTTR to me in places...

[Vitormouraa]

Yes I do have here with me, I asked for a picture because it wasn't on PC. Also, I hope you are right, I'm excited to see the 2.5, thanks! (something tells me this month, July, we will have good news!)

Edited July 3, 2016 by Vitormouraa

[shagrat]

It is easy, but it will tremendously hit performance, I guess?

Yet another layer over the complete screen...

 

There is a lot possible, but performance is always a balance between visual effects, accurate system modeling, AI for some hundreds of units and hundreds of realistically correct calculated projectiles at any given time.

 

If I had to choose between eye candy and improved AI, I

won't hesitate to vote for improved AI.

[adrianstealth]

but visabilty is blocked by rain so it should reduce PC graphical pressure

 

everything seems to "it's being worked on"

[ebabil]

it was mentioned in jan newsletter. new info will come hopefully

[shagrat]

but visabilty is blocked by rain so it should reduce PC graphical pressure

 

everything seems to "it's being worked on"

It still is another screen sized layer on top of the glass layer.

Also, just because the engine renders the objects, buildings, trees, as not visible, still requires the calculations for the "fog"/fade to gray effect, for all these objects.

So they need to find a way to balance nice rain effects with performance.

Given, that explosions, clouds and other effects are being overhauled according to Wags, we will see, what comes next.

 

Yet again, they also want to overhaul the AI, and from my perspective every ounce of CPU power spared for a better AI and more believable damage model, working way-finding routine or accurate line-of-sight calculations for AI (trees, buildings) is preferable to fancy raindrops on the canopy, or other eye candy...

Not that I would not love these effects, just a matter of preference.

[msalama]

Got it. Seems the moonlight reflections are much stronger now and the mission suddendly turning dark didn't actually have anything to do with my deleting the old view LUAs, but, rather, a thick cloud obscuring the moon for a while.

 

D'oh :doh: Still, the night looks really spiffy now IMHO...

[Aginor]

Agree with Shagrat here. I'll be as happy as anyone else about the rain drops, and looking forward to the planned effects improvements very much, but I hope ED doesn't forget that we need the CPU power for other (IMO more) important things.

[Enduro14]

Well it shouldn't run on cpu but the gpu, at least I would hope so?

[hughlb]

Is there any plan to open up another cpu core? We have 1 for sound and 1 for everything else, is that correct? Would another core be possible/worthwhile?

[upupandaway]

I read it as humidity being a factor for wingtip trails. That's good. :)

 

I know this has occasionally been brought up in the past, but afaik humidity has never been part of the weather engine.

 

What exactly is the aferomentioned "humidty factor" (in DCS specifically, I know about its role IRL)?

 

EDIT:

 

Humidity is already modelled, the flight model does tap into it if i'm not mistaken.

 

 

Found this. First time I hear of humidity and its impact on the FM. When did this change?

Edited July 4, 2016 by upupandaway

[Napa]

I suspect we'll see tremendous improvements in performance if another 2 cores become utilized.

[Aginor]

According to ED that's not the case.

 

Some complex operations just can't be split up, the performance win would be marginal, and the changes to implement that splitting would even cost performance, which makes that option less effective as it sounds.

[hughlb]

I guess the other way to look at it is, can we expect 5ghz processors any time soon? Seems processors are sitting around 4.5