AIM-9X Shots

[Colt40Five]

Wow.

 

http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/eagle1sp/1156/

[HRZ]

Russians had this for ages.

[Corsair7662]

eagle1sp, thats my XO by the way. we found that video and submitted it :-P

[GGTharos]

No, actually, they haven't. US NAVY had it before them, in a cruder system than the Shlem. The system used by USAF now with AIM-9X is again much much more advanced than Shlem.

 

Lastly, the engagement envelope of the Russian weapons, up to now, has NOT been as wide as the 9X's.

 

Also the R-73 is not as resistant to CM's as AIM-9X (same for 9M, both of those use Rosette Reticles as opposed to FPA) - what you see there, the F-4 flying low, and dispensing flares in the standard way of dealing with an R-73 - have the flares out before it is launched, and it will probably not guide to your aircraft.

 

IIRC this is a pretty old video, I've had it for close to a year I believe.

[Force_Feedback]

And the video itself is ancient as well. And the convergance logic wasn't really working back then, the missile never hit the front section. That's the least you expect, when such thing is available for over 20 years, yet it couldn't with its IIR seeker. And the wing with the flare launcher, the missile locked onto the flare dispenser, hence the censorship of that wing section.

[HRZ]

No, actually, they haven't. US NAVY had it before them, in a cruder system than the Shlem.

 

But they couldn't use it as an official weapon system so it's practically the same.

[GGTharos]

They -did- used it as an 'official system', in Korea or Vietnam, I forget which. However it was a pretty old system and it had its disadvantages. The R-73/Shlem combo was the first to actually work 'as intended' because by that time the technology advancement had allowed lighter HMS, and all-aspect heaters.

[GGTharos]

And the video itself is ancient as well. And the convergance logic wasn't really working back then, the missile never hit the front section. That's the least you expect, when such thing is available for over 20 years, yet it couldn't with its IIR seeker. And the wing with the flare launcher, the missile locked onto the flare dispenser, hence the censorship of that wing section.

 

I thought it was an IR jammer actually.

 

As for the weapon's hit location ... you go for the middle of the 'blob' ... also once you fill the reticle, you stop guiding - at this point the target fills your seeker so what are you going to do? Leading the target just 'that little extra' can make your missile much easier to defeat in terms of CM's /and/ maneuver.

[Mustang]

Cool video, had that one for ages too, and the Iceburn video and another which is kind of a compilation of that AIM-9X and other footage. I think i'll go and upload them with all the other videos i've got hosted on Youtube :)

[_Foxbat_]

but R-73 is better than AIM-9X, and R-73Э is the best low range missile

[MiGMadness]

but R-73 is better than AIM-9X, and R-73Э is the best low range missile

 

:huh:

[GGTharos]

but R-73 is better than AIM-9X, and R-73Э is the best low range missile

 

Um ... no. The R-73 may have more range. I know there is a version that has an FPA out there, I don't know which, and I don't know if it is in service yet.

 

But no FPA? = NOT better than AIM-9X. Rather, CATEGORICALLY worse, because the seeker is (relatively) easy to defeat.

[Mustang]

Heres the two videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5qKcDYjKqs and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-rRpe7tCkU

 

Got a few other videos uploaded too http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Mustang169th

[Colt40Five]

Oooh thanks for those Mustang!

[Dudikoff]

No, actually, they haven't. US NAVY had it before them, in a cruder system than the Shlem. The system used by USAF now with AIM-9X is again much much more advanced than Shlem.

 

Lastly, the engagement envelope of the Russian weapons, up to now, has NOT been as wide as the 9X's.

 

Well, coming up 20 years later, it better be a more advanced system or some taxpayers should be rather angry ;)

[GGTharos]

Exactly ;)

[Pilotasso]

but R-73 is better than AIM-9X, and R-73Э is the best low range missile

 

 

Wrong... and wrong.

 

Best WVR IR missile is probably the Python 4. But some would argue, Iris-T, MICA IR or ASRAAM.

 

Second: R-73 might have Thrust vectoring but it uses a seeker of the same class as the AIM-9M. The other missiles I referred above have a new technology caller Imaging infra Red, or IIR, wich are MUCH, much harder to beat.

 

R-73 was the best WVR missile 10 years ago, not anymore.

 

BTW I was the one that posted that AIM-9x on patricks. Theres another there too. :)

[TucksonSonny]

Wrong... and wrong.

 

Best WVR IR missile is probably the Python 4. But some would argue, Iris-T, MICA IR or ASRAAM.

 

This time I have to agree completely with you Pilotasso :D :thumbup:

[504MrWolf]

i visited RAF Lakenheath earlier this year and 80% of the Eagle C drivers had the new helmets on :) looked kinda weird. :)

[SVK_Fox]

I know one thing, R-73 was one of the best AA weapon for close combat, better than AIM-9 at that time, for sure. Now new AIM-9 could be better and it is normal, I cant imagine to publish new weapon that is worse than previous. But also russian developing new R-73 and it is only question of time, where we will be able to compare new one with new AIM-9. And one think for the end, you can have older R-73 or AIM9 and win AA combat against modern one, it depends mostly on other things that only on weapon. Also russian developing hot seaker warning system so that could be critical in dogfights. But I dont know status of that developing. So it is only information. Some photos are also on internet of that warning system.

[Force_Feedback]

i visited RAF Lakenheath earlier this year and 80% of the Eagle C drivers had the new helmets on :) looked kinda weird. :)

 

Heh, wait for the HMD on the F-35, that thing looks Science Fiction. And Sci-Fi equals to f-in awesome. Man, those sensors, oh boy, oh boy, you know that transparent panel setting in FS X? Well, this is in REAL LIFE. Reminds me of some alien ship with such tech to make surfaces transparent, or something from the far future.

 

 

Lol, are those TVC vanes on the 9x (ala Scud) the final version? I thought the Aim-9X had paddles like the R-73?

[_Foxbat_]

sorry, when I wrote R73Э I made a mistake, the new missle is called R73ME or K-74ME which is absolutely new missle with sight angle nearly 120 degrees:thumbup:

[Force_Feedback]

sorry, when I wrote R73Э I made a mistake, the new missle is called R73ME or K-74ME which is absolutely new missle with sight angle nearly 120 degrees:thumbup:

 

Lol, 3 pages cuz of a mistake

[GGTharos]

sorry, when I wrote R73Э I made a mistake, the new missle is called R73ME or K-74ME which is absolutely new missle with sight angle nearly 120 degrees:thumbup:

 

 

AIM-9X has a 180 degree gimbal ;)

[Force_Feedback]

R-73ME has 240 degree gimbal then ;)