Phoenix-II Missile Program

[Gault05]

I wonder, would the military ever invent a newer long range air-to-air missile based on the Phoenix predecessor?

[probad]

i wonder, would the military ever invent a newer long range infantry weapon based on the medieval pike?

[Emu]

I wonder, would the military ever invent a newer long range air-to-air missile based on the Phoenix predecessor?

Meteor.

[Emu]

i wonder, would the military ever invent a newer long range infantry weapon based on the medieval pike?

Ballistic knife?:lol:

[javelina1]

i wonder, would the military ever invent a newer long range infantry weapon based on the medieval pike?

 

Couldn't help yourself, eh?? ;)

[The Black Swan]

Don't mind these guys :D

I don't think we will see a new kind of Phoenix missle, but as far as a replacement for its role as a long range missile the US is developing new stuff.

There is a planned variant on the amraam which would add a ramjet, which I assume would add significant range.

The new D model amraam has a significant boost in range and is getting close to what the Phoenix could do.

Combined with modern jammers, the effective range isn't much different (at least that's what I would think)

[*Rage*]

Meteor.

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[fixen]

Meteor missile comes close in range and the aim-120D also has a very long range.

[Sweep]

Who needs a long range air to air missile when you have SM-6s and off-board targeting?

[Pilotasso]

when the missile costs as much as the plane you have to wonder its practicality. :D

[Sweep]

when the missile costs as much as the plane you have to wonder its practicality. :D

 

Meteor vs J-7? :megalol:

[Silver_Dragon]

The AIM-54 Phoenix was a planned successor, the AIM-152 AAAM, but was cancelled at the end of Cold War on 1992.

 

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-152.html

[Sierra99]

I think any future weapons systems will be based on improving current designs verses creating something entirely...There are plenty of letters in the alphabet...

[Emu]

Meteor missile comes close in range and the aim-120D also has a very long range.

Meteor is rated around 300km, '3 times NEZ of AIM-120C-5'.

[Pilotasso]

and the thing will be carried by Gripens. Ming boggling.

[fixen]

Meteor is rated around 300km, '3 times NEZ of AIM-120C-5'.

 

Meteor has longer range for sure. But we don't know all the actual numbers since they are classified. AIM-120C-8 (D) is the newest version IIRC (might still be prototype, I don't know), which also starts going towards 200km range. Optimal ranges ofcourse.

[*Rage*]

and the thing will be carried by Gripens. Ming boggling.

 

Why?

[Pilotasso]

Imagine an F-5 tiger carrying AIM-54's.

[*Rage*]

Imagine an F-5 tiger carrying AIM-54's.

 

It's nothing like that.

 

Does the Meteor NEZ extend beyond the detection range of the Gripen? That's not even talking about the 2 way missile datalink, P2P data link, buddy homing and all the other Meteor goodies etc.

 

Respectfully, I doubt you know better than the aircraft engineers.

[Pilotasso]

lol I was not intending to go into another academic discussion. You know what I meant.

 

Besides Im finaly too old and dont care :)

[*Rage*]

lol dont give up pilotasso:)

 

Why no more MP flying?

[Pilotasso]

I work in the aerospace sector, and its like working in medical emergencies. A Highly stressfull job and I pick the fights more carefully now. :)

 

waiting for DCS 2.0 to go public + new rig soon, so I can return to MP with a clean setup.

 

So, soon now, soon.

 

 

before anyone aks, yes I will post a thread for the build, it will be something worth seeing.

[Emu]

It's nothing like that.

 

Does the Meteor NEZ extend beyond the detection range of the Gripen? That's not even talking about the 2 way missile datalink, P2P data link, buddy homing and all the other Meteor goodies etc.

 

Respectfully, I doubt you know better than the aircraft engineers.

It doesn't have to be the firing aircraft illuminating the target, which is why the Meteor is the perfect weapon for a mixed 4th/5th gen fleet.

[Fri13]

when the missile costs as much as the plane you have to wonder its practicality. :D

 

Price of plane is nothing compared to price of pilot.....

 

Shoot down a couple pilots KIA, and rest of pilots starts to have stress level higher for next missions and mission designs are started to be revised and maybe even avoided.

[Emu]

And it takes time and money to select and train a pilot.