holimoli Posted March 5, 2017 Posted March 5, 2017 Is there a way to disable the recently added G/AoA limiter somehow? [100☭] holimoli #13, 100-й КИАП
Avernus Posted March 5, 2017 Posted March 5, 2017 Use the brakes! That is, holding the wheelbrake key will ask the ACS to relax, allowing your aircraft to perform a brake harder, or sooner.. whichever comes first!
holimoli Posted March 5, 2017 Author Posted March 5, 2017 thanks. but that's not what I meant. Is there an other way than holding down the brakes like disabling it in the options or some .cfg file ? [100☭] holimoli #13, 100-й КИАП
razo+r Posted March 5, 2017 Posted March 5, 2017 thanks. but that's not what I meant. Is there an other way than holding down the brakes like disabling it in the options or some .cfg file ? Press "s" to get the full control until you press it again :smilewink: :music_whistling:
JazonXD Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 Press the S key to break your wings. Have fun! AMD 5600X -- Gigabyte RTX 3070 Vision -- 32GB 3600MHz DDR4 -- HP Reverb G2 -- Logitech 3D Extreme Pro -- Thrustmaster TWCS BRRRT! Car and aviation enthusiast, gun nut and computer nerd!
Frostie Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 The 'S key' is the Direct control mode this switches off your FCS which then allows Cobras, broken wings etc. Holimoli is asking how to permanently disable the G/AoA limiter (W key) without having to hold down 'W key', this is just a limiter and switching it off keeps the FCS on. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 51st PVO "BISONS" Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
Falcon_S Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) Press "s" to get the full control until you press it again :smilewink: :music_whistling: :music_whistling: Is there a way to disable the recently added G/AoA limiter somehow? ... Holimoli is asking how to permanently disable the G/AoA limiter (W key) without having to hold down 'W key', this is just a limiter and switching it off keeps the FCS on. I just made mod for Disable/Enable G/AoA limiter. Install with JSGME or just copy Mods folder and paste it into DCS World folder (if you do manual installation don`t forget BACKUP before install). After install go in dcs options/controls, su27 and you will find two new commands. Disable G Limiter and Enable G Limiter. Map joystick buttons and enjoy. This mod is only for Flaming Cliffs Su27. For DCSW Su-27 standalone module users it work if files are installed in right input folders. Enjoy. ;)GAoA Switch for FC3.rar Edited April 24, 2017 by Falcon_S 1 Quote Немој ништа силом, узми већи чекић! MSI Tomahawk MAX | Ryzen 7 3700x | 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | RX 5700 XT OC Red Dragon 8GB | VPC Throttle CM3 + VPC Constellation ALPHA on VPC WarBRD Base | HP Reverb G2 Youtube | Follow Me on TWITCH!
Frostie Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 Awesome Falcon, thanks. Will try it out. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 51st PVO "BISONS" Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
Pocket Sized Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 Don't you feel like this is a bit of a cheat? ...no? You just have to be careful not to rip off your wings, as you have to do in the real aircraft. DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works.
Falcon_S Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) Don't you feel like this is a bit of a cheat? Why to feel that as cheating? If i want i can turn OFF my engines too if decide that is useful for me. (silent attack for example :) ) No, because pilot turn on/off that Limiter. (described in Su27SK manual) Yes and No, becasue that feature are not implemented in DCS Su27 but it must be. So, CHEAT: No vs. Yes = 2-1 Edited April 24, 2017 by Falcon_S Quote Немој ништа силом, узми већи чекић! MSI Tomahawk MAX | Ryzen 7 3700x | 32GB DDR4 3200MHz | RX 5700 XT OC Red Dragon 8GB | VPC Throttle CM3 + VPC Constellation ALPHA on VPC WarBRD Base | HP Reverb G2 Youtube | Follow Me on TWITCH!
Gruja Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 When someone modeled missiles or anything else that can **** up Russian planes that is ok, but when someone (FOR SU-27!) modeled a simple switch that just like in reality serves to turn on or off G limiter that is cheat. A bit cynical isn't it?:music_whistling:
Frostie Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 To have full back stick and then press the w key is madness, doing it this way goes from 7g to broken wings instantly barring some crazy stick fiddle. Turning off the limiter lets you dial in the G as it would be done in rl without the added force needed to push past the limiter. Its the lesser of two poorly modeled methods. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 51st PVO "BISONS" Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
IASGATG Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 Well i mean there is a Vmax switch in the f-15 pit but if i increased the thrust of my eagle by 15% i feel like I'd get a stern question asked...
Sweep Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 To have full back stick and then press the w key is madness Then why do fighters have just a button for that? Lord of Salt
DarkFire Posted April 24, 2017 Posted April 24, 2017 Don't you feel like this is a bit of a cheat? Under most conditions the AOA / G limiter will not allow you to achieve maximum G for your current configuration. It has a built-in margin of safety (as does the airframe) and can also be slow to respond to large stick inputs. Being able to permanently disable the limiter allows a skilled pilot to get closer to the edge but comes at the price of having to be aware and careful of your current G load. Edited to add: as I understand it the Flanker ACS comes with the option of disabling the limiter via a switch anyway, so this mod actually adds to realism. 238thFalcon - thanks very much for developing this mod, it'll be most useful :thumbup: System Spec: Cooler Master Cosmos C700P Black Edition case. | AMD 5950X CPU | MSI RTX-3090 GPU | 32GB HyperX Predator PC4000 RAM | | TM Warthog stick & throttle | TrackIR 5 | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 4 SSD 1TB (boot) | Samsung 870 QVO SSD 4TB (games) | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. Personal wish list: DCS: Su-27SM & DCS: Avro Vulcan.
*Rage* Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 There's a fantastic mod for vertical scan autolock as well. Salt buckets inbound!! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
Frostie Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Well i mean there is a Vmax switch in the f-15 pit but if i increased the thrust of my eagle by 15% i feel like I'd get a stern question asked... What's the button for that? I guess if there is a button for that then there shouldn't be a problem but i'm guessing you're talking about modding your game files right. I just don't see the similarity. I probably won't be using this mod as i've have enough trouble keeping my wings and rudders on in the past as it is, but I know guys that will be grateful for this and I really don't see a problem with it. Edited April 25, 2017 by Frostie "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 51st PVO "BISONS" Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
Sweep Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 There's a fantastic mod for vertical scan autolock as well. Salt buckets inbound!! DCS: Toggle Switch? Lord of Salt
Esac_mirmidon Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 This is the AoA-G limiter switch. And the manual says that turning off the limiter doesnt increase noticeably the maneuver capabilities and it´s possible to drive the plane into a stall or to exceed the G limits. 1 " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
*Rage* Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 It's a cheat! SGAT get on the blower to the RuAF! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
shonist Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 oh i can remember my first time pressing the "S" button on the su27... i tought my screen passed away. it just turned black. lol I7 7700k - Msi Z270 Gaming+ GTX 1070ti 16gb @2400 2x Samsung 850EVO 250/500 - 1x HDD 1TB SAITEK-MAD CATZ CYBORG FLY 5 STICK WIN 10
Pocket Sized Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 There is no G limiter in the real Flanker. The stick pusher is activated purely via AoA to prevent control departures. The G limiter we have now is a, uh, "helper" to prevent people from tearing off their wings constantly. Disabling it is actually more realistic than leaving it on. DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works.
Esac_mirmidon Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Yes there is a AoA - G limiter on the real Flanker. Labeled " ограничит a,ny ". Literally ( AoA -G limiter ) Take a look at the picture some post behind. Edited April 25, 2017 by Esac_mirmidon " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4
Pocket Sized Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Yes there is a AoA - G limiter on the real Flanker. Labeled " ограничит a,ny ". Literally ( AoA -G limiter ) Take a look at the picture some post behind. Oh, my understanding was that it only limited G onset rates and such. Even if there is a G limiter, it's not adaptive to gross weight like the one we have (not even the warning buzzer changes depending on weight IRL) DCS modules are built up to a spec, not down to a schedule. In order to utilize a system to your advantage, you must know how it works.
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