What does pre-purchase mean exactly?

[cichlidfan]

Bonus $ expire.

[Art-J]

You understood it pretty well.

 

It's always just a question of long-term purchase planning, perception of relative value ("How much I'm willing to spend for airplane X or map Y") and amount of bonus points You already have (if any). I, for example, do not intend to buy any future DCS products until VEAO's Spitfire XIV or M3's Corsair (whichever comes first). At the same time, I've got 30 bucks worth of bonus points, which will expire this November. So I plan to wait for full Normandy release and spend my bonus on it, because for the time being that's a better deal for me (I'll cut the price down even more than in pre-purchase and I'll get 12$, valid till May 2018, hopefully for the Spit XIV). If I didn't have any bonus points, though, I would go for pre-purchase now.

[imacken]

You understood it pretty well.

 

It's always just a question of long-term purchase planning, perception of relative value ("How much I'm willing to spend for airplane X or map Y") and amount of bonus points You already have (if any). I, for example, do not intend to buy any future DCS products until VEAO's Spitfire XIV or M3's Corsair (whichever comes first). At the same time, I've got 30 bucks worth of bonus points, which will expire this November. So I plan to wait for full Normandy release and spend my bonus on it, because for the time being that's a better deal for me (I'll cut the price down even more than in pre-purchase and I'll get 12$, valid till May 2018, hopefully for the Spit XIV). If I didn't have any bonus points, though, I would go for pre-purchase now.

I see, that makes sense. Is it not the case though, that the bonus $ don't expire as long as a purchase has beeb made within a year?

[cichlidfan]

I see, that makes sense. Is it not the case though, that the bonus $ don't expire as long as a purchase has beeb made within a year?

 

True. However, bonus points can have limitations. These may include not being usable on new modules or not being usable on modules not made by ED/Belsimtek.

 

Cash saved now has no restrictions.

[imacken]

Cash saved now has no restrictions.

I take your point, thanks a lot!

[Hermit713]

How about crossfire and SLI support !

 

I've got a world-class gaming machine and not being able to run everything and high graphics ( I run the game with a lot of Ai helicopters jets, and tanks ). But even the base defend mission in the spitfire can hardly hit 30 fps when taking off and initial fighting, make me not want to purchase any more modules until they fix it .

It's getting kind a old... utilize two cores of your processor makes this whole entire package kind of a letdown. At least if you have crossfire you can get more out of the package. It would make a lot of people happy.

 

I run a 1080 monitor or use a 36" ultra wide 3340x1440

Edited March 14, 2017 by Hermit713

[Decibel dB]

How about crossfire and SLI support !

 

I've got a world-class gaming machine and not being able to run everything and high graphics ( I run the game with a lot of Ai helicopters jets, and tanks ). But even the base defend mission in the spitfire can hardly hit 30 fps when taking off and initial fighting, make me not want to purchase any more modules until they fix it .

It's getting kind a old... utilize two cores of your processor makes this whole entire package kind of a letdown. At least if you have crossfire you can get more out of the package. It would make a lot of people happy.

 

I run a 1080 monitor or use a 36" ultra wide 3340x1440

 

Really? I have a simple GTX1080 I am maxed out and most time I am in the mid 100's range @ 4K resolution (3840x2160) plus a support monitor at 1080p.

[Hermit713]

Yeah I can get fps 200s if it say basic little area but when we are talking a lot of planes and things like that it's a completely different scenario.

 

Go try to find the Spitfire on the ground doing the "base defense "mission if you have the Spitfire perhaps it's a Spitfire issue because it's not finished yet?

 

Because yes I can do most everywhere wide-open not an issue .

 

Are you running the new Nevada map ?

 

If you had to go take a look at some of the test they did with all the different systems you'll know what I'm talking about. you got to going to the hardware is part of the forum. It's a good read.

 

Basically DCS does not use your graphics card very well and it's basically dependent on the speed of your processor.

You could run a real basic cheap GPU or you can have an expensive thousand dollar GPU it's not going to run much better at all . don't take my word for it go read about the test they did.

Edited March 14, 2017 by Hermit713

[imacken]

@Hermit713 and @Decibel dB, are you guys on the right thread?

[Decibel dB]

@Hermit713 and @Decibel dB, are you guys on the right thread?

 

You're quite right, sorry that wasn't the intention :pilotfly:

[Andy1966]

Thanks for that. I thought it was on topic, as I am still trying to understand the point of pre-purchase!

As far as I can see, we get 20% off, but if we buy at full price, then we also get 20% bonus towards future purchases. Is it not the same thing? I can't see the benefit of re-purchase. Not complaining, just not sure what the point is, financially anyway.

 

to get bonus$ you would have had to buy another module or map, Etc. to get the 20%. a new player that has no bonus $ can still get a discount with pre- purchace, and get bonus $ also( If bonus $ are applicable)

[klem]

I will get Normandy through my Kickstarter contribution but if my buddies wait until Normandy release will they be able to use existing bonuses to buy it? It could be cheaper than pre-purchase.

[BIGNEWY]

I will get Normandy through my Kickstarter contribution but if my buddies wait until Normandy release will they be able to use existing bonuses to buy it? It could be cheaper than pre-purchase.

 

Rules here https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/bonus_rules/

 

They will have to wait to use the bonus points as bonus points can not be used on products marked as "new"

 

check out 2. Bonuses Debiting from User Account

[klem]

Rules here https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/bonus_rules/

 

They will have to wait to use the bonus points as bonus points can not be used on products marked as "new"

 

check out 2. Bonuses Debiting from User Account

 

Thank you for the explanation.

[Rocky49]

so how do I "pre-purchase" if I am a qualified backer?

[klem]

so how do I "pre-purchase" if I am a qualified backer?

 

Check your backer entitlement - you may already be receiving it for free.

[cichlidfan]

so how do I "pre-purchase" if I am a qualified backer?

 

If you are a qualified backer, why would you want to pre-purchase?

[Beamscanner]

If you are a qualified backer, why would you want to pre-purchase?

 

Probably thinks he's going to get some extra outfits/weapons if he pre-purchases:megalol:

[klem]

Rules here https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/bonus_rules/

 

They will have to wait to use the bonus points as bonus points can not be used on products marked as "new"

 

check out 2. Bonuses Debiting from User Account

 

BIGNEWY, sorry to raise this old thread but it is pertinent.

 

For how long will a product be marked as 'New', particularly the Normandy+WWII Assetts package. I ask because I want to buy a second map for my server but hope not to be able to use bonus points. Meanwhile I have to run a server on my gaming machine.

[escaner]

For how long will a product be marked as 'New', particularly the Normandy+WWII Assetts package. I ask because I want to buy a second map for my server but hope not to be able to use bonus points. Meanwhile I have to run a server on my gaming machine.

 

Being a pack, it is treated as a discount sale, that is why you are not able to use bonus points... another of the drawbacks of having two modules for what should have been just one.

 

If you have many bonus available, maybe wait for one of those events where you can spend 50% bonus and purchase them as separate modules.

[klem]

Being a pack, it is treated as a discount sale, that is why you are not able to use bonus points... another of the drawbacks of having two modules for what should have been just one.

 

If you have many bonus available, maybe wait for one of those events where you can spend 50% bonus and purchase them as separate modules.

 

If that is so I must always wait for a special deal to use my bonuses because I have everything in DCS that interests me (14 a/c, all maps, CA, WWII Assetts). Anything else will always be 'NEW' so either I have to forego my bonuses or wait until it is 'old' or wait for a deal. And if a year passes before a deal that interest me comes along or something 'New' becomes 'Old' I will lose my bonuses.

[cichlidfan]

If that is so I must always wait for a special deal to use my bonuses because I have everything in DCS that interests me (14 a/c, all maps, CA, WWII Assetts). Anything else will always be 'NEW' so either I have to forego my bonuses or wait until it is 'old' or wait for a deal. And if a year passes before a deal that interest me comes along or something 'New' becomes 'Old' I will lose my bonuses.

 

That is pretty much correct.

[escaner]

There are no "new" and "old" modules regarding spending bonus points. Either it is on sale or not, that is what matters. Before the product is (pre-)released, you can pre-purchase it on a 20% discount sale, so you cannot spend points. The moment it is (pre-)released in alpha status, the discount finishes, it goes to full price and you can spend bonus points (up to 30% of its price IIRC).

 

As I said, Normandy + WW2 Assets is a pack, which is considered a sale, that is why you cannot spend the points.

[cichlidfan]

There are no "new" and "old" modules regarding spending bonus points.

 

Bonus Rule #2.5.

 

Bonuses cannot be used to pay for products marked as “NEW”.

[Art-J]

Yep, we're aware of that particular rule, but nobody knows for sure what it actually means, since people have been spending their bonus credits on freshly released ED products since... introduction of bonus credits :D. It's probably different with 3rd party products.

 

I, for a recent example, did so with Normandy and Assets Pack (bought as separate deals), and would recommend to OP doing the same when/if his bonus expiry date gets close.