Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle

[Joni]

Hi guys!

 

Im considering buying the TWCS throttle from TM, has anyone tried it?

 

Good quality?

 

Noise or jitter?

 

Can the rocker be used as buttons?

 

 

Thanks a lot!

[Revelation]

Hi guys!

 

Im considering buying the TWCS throttle from TM, has anyone tried it?

 

Good quality?

 

Noise or jitter?

 

Can the rocker be used as buttons?

 

 

Thanks a lot!

 

Wait until after E3. Thrustmaster is showcasing the DCS F-18C Hornet and who knows what else.

[Joni]

Wait until after E3. Thrustmaster is showcasing the DCS F-18C Hornet and who knows what else.

 

You are asking me to lower my anxiety? I dont think thats gonna happen in the short term :joystick:

 

Other than that do yoy think its worth it?

[Revelation]

E3 starts around 15 June, I would wait.

[Nooch]

Waiting is an option but frankly if he's interested in the TWCS he probably isn't looking for a f-18 throttle. That thing is going to cost at least as much as the A-10 stuff and probably even more. Waiting would make more sense if he thought about buying an A-10 hotas.

[Joni]

Waiting is an option but frankly if he's interested in the TWCS he probably isn't looking for a f-18 throttle. That thing is going to cost at least as much as the A-10 stuff and probably even more. Waiting would make more sense if he thought about buying an A-10 hotas.

 

Hi!

 

I agree with your insight. I am not looking to spend that much money in a single product. I do have the A-10C module but dont fly it anymore.

 

I was trying to see if the choice of buying the TWCS was going to be good or not based on the quality and stuff I stated before.

 

I was looking into the possibility of getting the 2x MFD Cougar pack and the TWCS.

[Sokol1_br]

Im considering buying the TWCS throttle from TM, has anyone tried it?

 

Good quality?

 

Noise or jitter?

 

Can the rocker be used as buttons?

 

Well, basically is a "entry level" throttle, using cheap solutions, e.g. potentiometer instead contactless sensors. You get what you pay ~$80.

 

"Noise or jitter" in potentiometers is just matter of time. Even in the

.

 

You can use the rocker axis to send key press (not DX buttons) through TARGET or 3rd part keymapper (Joy2Key, Xpadder, SVMapper).

Edited May 29, 2017 by Sokol1_br

[Joni]

Yeap, I know about pots jitter in time. But the fact that it is a throttle makes me think its not as bad as having pots on a stick.

 

Almost 80% of throttles are with pots, the only throttle with hall sensors is the warthog.

 

Do you agree?

[Sokol1_br]

For now only Warthog use HALL sensor, the other few throttle options -TWCS, CH, Saitek X-5x and quadrant use pot.

 

VirPil and VKB certainly will use contactless sensor in throttle axis at least - probable pot in secondary axes.

 

GVL224 custom throttles can use contactless sensor - buyer option.

[Joni]

I Just noticed Wags has a TWCS on its build!!! LOL I wonder why would that be?

 

Im very hesitating about getting this throttle but given the others also use pots makes me think i dont have much of a choice given the price range of the tm warthog.

[Mars Exulte]

Nope, not much choice. If you pay less than $200-300 for a flight controller, you are getting sub premium equipment. Just reality.

 

PC gaming isn't a particularly cheap hobby... PC Flight Simming even more so =)

[dimebug]

For the price, it's a simple but very efficient throttle. Few people noticed it but you can adjust the throttle friction by turning a screw only accessible in the back of the throttle, when throttle position is "full".

it's also a good choice if you don't own a rudder, the big paddle in front offer a good control for that axis.

[VampireNZ]

I use one and I think it is fine. used to have the Warthog and a couple of switches clapped out on the throttle, so nothing is 'bulletproof'.

Haven't had any issues with it, the 'Velcro mod' for the AB range is a good idea too - can use different amount of Velcro depending on how much drag you want.

 

I generally run it with very little friction - don't think it needs to be heavy to be 'real'; the only reason you have friction in a real A/C throttle is to stop it moving by itself because of vibes etc (very disconcerting!) - but obviously not an issue for a sim throttle, so just have it soft and you will avoid most of the stiction issues too.

But I mean you get stiction in RL throttles too, to set the P-3 power levers accurately for cruise etc you brace your hand on the cover and tweak each lever against the stiction/friction with your fingertips right down the bottom (but this is for setting at 1 deg C TIT accuracy). Otherwise generally you just have to give them a 'small calibrated jolt' ...of the perfect amount.. from the top. I also like the flat travel of this throttle, as that is what I am used to.

 

No issues with any buttons or the rocker, but haven't had it long. TBH this is just a tide-me-over till the VKB throttle comes out! :joystick:

Edited May 29, 2017 by VampireNZ

[toutenglisse]

TWCS is very good. For now the only default is what comes with the price.... plastic throttle....

But everything works great with no spikes or any problem...

IMO a great price/quality ratio.

[Joni]

thanks everyone! ill see what I do in the next couple of days

[Joni]

I use one and I think it is fine. used to have the Warthog and a couple of switches clapped out on the throttle, so nothing is 'bulletproof'.

 

If I had a so expensive product and broke some switches Id be very very angry :joystick::joystick:

[VampireNZ]

If I had a so expensive product and broke some switches Id be very very angry :joystick::joystick:

 

Well I wasn't thrilled - they were a couple of the hats on the side so used a lot in the A-10. For such a pricey setup it is pretty avg TBH.

I had to do a lot of 'modification' to the stick as well to make it smoother. That and an extension helped a bit, but I am very much looking forward to getting a VKB Gunfighter Pro! :joystick:

 

So far I am very impressed with the TWCS Throttle for the price.

[Saltat_cum_mortem]

Quality is good enough for $70, but that's assuming it's only a temporary solution.

 

Yes there's jitter. I have the paddles set to the zoom axis and it is noticeable at times.

 

The rocker is a pair of buttons.

 

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[hughlb]

I found that adding some felt (or similar material) adds a great deal of friction, and eliminates stiction entirely - it didn't cost me anything to do as I got a sample offcut from a fabric shop. If you want a more professional approach, use the other grease suggestion in the below link.

 

I have actually added felt on the top and bottom of the plate, so there is no plastic contact on the rails now - it feels like a much more expensive, heavier throttle now. I also added a coating of electrical tape on the handle - so it feels rubberized and not cheap plastic.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=187219&highlight=twcs

[Ce_Zeta]

It's a great option for the cost. I prefer CH Pro Throttle but in some places it's hard to find it or it's overpriced.

 

Well, basically is a "entry level" throttle, using cheap solutions, e.g. potentiometer instead contactless sensors. You get what you pay ~$80.

 

"Noise or jitter" in potentiometers is just matter of time. Even in the

.

 

You can use the rocker axis to send key press (not DX buttons) through TARGET or 3rd part keymapper (Joy2Key, Xpadder, SVMapper).

Noise can be reduced using a usb hub or in case of CH products, adding a filter in the profile.

[mblackham]

For now only Warthog use HALL sensor, the other few throttle options -TWCS, CH, Saitek X-5x and quadrant use pot.

 

VirPil and VKB certainly will use contactless sensor in throttle axis at least - probable pot in secondary axes.

 

GVL224 custom throttles can use contactless sensor - buyer option.

 

 

 

The T16000M which goes with the TWCS uses the same Hall sensors as the warthog.

 

 

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[mblackham]

I have one and love it. The flat slide mechanism is great.

 

 

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[Sokol1_br]

The T16000M which goes with the TWCS uses the same Hall sensors as the warthog.

 

He is talking about throttle with HALL sensor, not joystick. TWCS (throttle) use potentiometer.

[proletariat23]

its nice the rocker sucks and target sucks, so don't expect much joy there. I use it for a zoom as well and I just give it a huge deadzone so it doesn't jitter on return.

[cichlidfan]

TARGET only seems to suck because it is more complicated which is a by-product of being more powerful than other controller software options.

 

Once you learn how to use it, particularly the scripting environment, you can do some very complex things.