Ryzen5 1600X ordered along with a GTX-1050 and 16GB, SSD

[BitMaster]

I have to build a new office machine with dual Monitor setup via HDMI and THIS TIME I went the AMD way ;)

 

Once everything is here I will report back about its DCS capabilities on 1440p & 1080p.

 

AMD Ryzen 1600X

Asus Prime X370-Pro

16GB Corsair Veneg. LPX 2666 ( hey, it's for office use only, so no 3600 Plug&Pray )

Samsung 256GB 850Pro

Corsair 550w RMx 80+Gold modular

Noctua NH-D15 Special Edition AM4

Corsair Carbide 300R Midi Tower

Asus Geforce GTX 1050 2GB ( this will be the limit for any game testing I am afraid, only bought this "expensive"one as I need 2 x HDMI )

 

Logitech Keyb/Mouse MK520 Combo wireless

LG DVD-RW

Asus 23" VX239H FullHD

 

Everything but the 23" screen is in stock, should be here by next week.

 

Gonna put Win7-64-Ult on it and upgrade to 10Pro right away.

 

 

I really hope I dont regret this move !

[ebabil]

i wonder how ryzen will hadle the dcs.

but gtx1050 may not let cpu show its potential imo.

[BitMaster]

Well, it's got that Noctua cooler so I can crank the CPU up, I can use my 980GTX and while I take mine apart I can also use my 3600 RAMs for testing ;)

 

There is a real good comparison over at hardocp.com as of today with a 2600k, 7700k and 1700X tested with 10 modern games.

 

I have read the whole test for coffee this morning and the +/- in fps is so low, I couldnt tell the difference. Which actually speaks for the 2600k clocked at 4.5G.

 

When I think back, my old Sandy at 4.8G was a Monster CPU, if it hadnt died I would possibly still run it and have a 1080Ti instead, now I run this new rig and had to keep the 980GTX, which I have to say is actually enough for 1440p and all games I run on this rig, like DCS, GTA-V, Battlefield1, GR-Wildlands, DiRT4 etc... I dont see the need to UP my GPU yet.

 

HardOCP Comaprison: https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/05/26/definitive_amd_ryzen_7_realworld_gaming_guide

 

My resumee is that the 1700X is the overall winner as it so fast you wont see a difference in gaming, 5 fps is not worlds in between, but when you do encoding or such MultiCore things it smokes those 2 others by MILES between them. There is Ryzen in 1st place, then a LARGE gap...and then comes Intel. If you take the price-relation into consideration, ~350€ CPU vs. ~350€ CPU.

Edited May 31, 2017 by BitMaster

[SkateZilla]

Mother board bios update to allow higher clocked ram profiles should be out in a few weeks, which will also speed up the infinity fabric between CCX's

[BitMaster]

Nice, but I opted for the "hopefully" troublefree 2666MHz DDR4 kit 2x8.

 

As it is only for Office use I want stability over anything else, the lady would kill me if it would bug while booting. Had that on mine until like 2 weeks ago it suddenly seems to have found the proper timing itself, after dozens of bootings over like 8 weeks, and now promptly boots after beeping. Seems really like the new Bios's do need time and many bootings to learn.

 

I am really eager to try out that beast. I will install 1.5 and do some Su-25T testruns with my GPU, so I can really compare one versus the other.

 

I just hope my 3600er will not be too troublesome LoL...but I am used to this, sadly.

[*Rage*]

Thanks for the HardOCP link! If I were buying now Ryzen would be a good choice. Luckily I dont need to upgrade my 2700K yet.

[BitMaster]

We already see the new Intel prices and I at least conclude: THEY HAVENT LEARNED A THING YET ! 1.999 US$ for that flagship CPU and around 1kUS$ for entry level 10C

ore...no way. This is what AMD needed to finally have a chance to take over half of the CPU sales.

 

Ryzen II will likely be yours then, till today a good Sandy can hold its own against any other CPU on the market for single threaded games.

[SkateZilla]

Intel i9's will compete with AMD ThreadRipper CPUs this year.

[BitMaster]

Intel i9's will compete with AMD ThreadRipper CPUs this year.

 

I doubt AMD will be that stupid and not sell them at a competitive price and thus get a large portion of that cake. Those Intels are so expensive, it's crying for a competitor in the Workstation and Server segment. I checked a new Dell R530 and R730 today..and Jesus & Maria, I hope AMD will come soon and lower the prices overall on SRV CPUs and WS CPUs.

 

That 1976X was my dream...oh man...4.1GHz out of the box and 12 cores on top :thumbup: That tops the 6950X I guess by 2 cores. Let's wait for the prices and see.

[Pilotasso]

AMD will slash ryzen prices by 23%, so wait a few more days ;)

 

If you want to test DCS on that system you may want to temporarily use the your other GFX for testing. That 1050 will fall short.

 

BTW, I decided to get a 1080ti tomorrow, so we can compare the inpact of GFX since I already had the 970 tested on the other thread and our 2 Ryzen chips should be pretty much on par for DCS.

Edited June 2, 2017 by Pilotasso

[RED]

Hey,

I thought about an upgrade too. Atm I have an old i5 3470. But then I saw here: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

 

that it's in the same league like the ryzen 1600x. Do you think this source gives us an direction for dcs performance?

[SkateZilla]

I doubt AMD will be that stupid and not sell them at a competitive price and thus get a large portion of that cake. Those Intels are so expensive, it's crying for a competitor in the Workstation and Server segment. I checked a new Dell R530 and R730 today..and Jesus & Maria, I hope AMD will come soon and lower the prices overall on SRV CPUs and WS CPUs.

 

That 1976X was my dream...oh man...4.1GHz out of the box and 12 cores on top :thumbup: That tops the 6950X I guess by 2 cores. Let's wait for the prices and see.

 

 

most expensive one will still be less than $1K

[BitMaster]

Yep, once here I may put the 980gtx in it as well as my faster RAM.

 

Too late for price reduction, already ordered...baaah

[swe_badger]

AMD will slash ryzen prices by 23%, so wait a few more days ;)

If you want to test DCS on that system you may want to temporarily use the your other GFX for testing. That 1050 will fall short.

 

BTW, I decided to get a 1080ti tomorrow, so we can compare the inpact of GFX since I already had the 970 tested on the other thread and our 2 Ryzen chips should be pretty much on par for DCS.

 

How do you know this? Might happen where you live but here in semi-socialist-capitalistland prices are basically fixed between the biggest online retailers it most certainly won't. Oh wait! I just read up on it. AMD is probably only slashing the Ryzen 7 line so they can position the new threadripper at a very competitive price against the upcoming equivalent Intel monster-chips. I wish AMD would reduce the price a little bit for the Ryzen 5 line too, Intel would then be forced to price adjust their whole i5 line and probably the i3 and i7 lines too.

Edited June 3, 2017 by swe_badger

[Pilotasso]

the cuts are being made by the manufacturer. This has been announced at computex 2017.

[SkateZilla]

Price cuts are because ThreadRipper CPUs/Ryzen 9 will be aggressively priced as well, and AMD Lowered Ryzen 7/5 CPUs to fall in line.

 

as for Faster Ram, Wait for June Mainboard BIOS Updates, most mainboards cant run more than 2666 DDR4 right now until the new BIOS updates that allow 4000MHz

[Pilotasso]

I have a beta BIOS with the new May AGESA 1.0.0.6. I was stuck at 2933Mhz and now can go up to 3466, though that was with CL20 so I stepped back to 3200 CL 16. Nobody is getting to 4000 with it, a few are getting 3600. Yeah, still ways to improve.

[Konovalov]

That's promising to hear Pilotasso regarding the RAM speed improvements. I bought a 2x16GB 3200 Corsair Vengeance kit a few months ago with view to building a new system. I had heard RAM prices were going to climb so committed early to the purchase. Then with all the memory problems surrounding Ryzen I had been hesitant to commit to a Ryzen based rig. Looking good now though by the looks of it for AMD and early adopters.

 

 

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[BitMaster]

Stuff came all in 2h ago...it's already memtesting D.O.C.P 2666 ( XMP I guess that is in AMD language ) at otherwise default settings.

 

Board booted right away with 2133 and 2666MHz, no problem so far.

 

The Noctua DH-15-SE "JUST" fits inside the CorsairCarbide 300R case....2mm for the lid to close and 1mm on the RAM...TIGHT !! ...but it fits and nothing rattles or touches each other.

 

 

Very good 1st impression, overall from each component.

Edited June 9, 2017 by BitMaster

[BitMaster]

oops ...mistake..they booted 2133 instead

 

2666 makes trouble also with newest Bios, trying 2400 now..also doesnt look good.

 

Anyway, its an OFFICE-PC, I really dont care for now if 2666 wont boot at all.

 

I keep going on forward with 2133 and save that for later.

[BitMaster]

I put on 7 and then upgraded to 10 with no issues, the system is very responsive.

 

The RAM works at 2666, all it took was UP for vDIMM to 1.25v from default 1.20v.

 

 

...AND HECK, THIS CPU !!!!! 4.0 GHz !!! full prime95 and it settles at just over 60°C

 

---------------------AWSOME--------------

 

It beats my Kaby by 2.65sec in Blender, AMD @ 4G vs. Kaby @5G.

 

Havent had time to try my GPU or RAM yet, may not get to it as I am short in time.

 

 

4.0 @ 1.400v ...it may even run with less voltage, need to check.

 

Lovin' it !!!

[Konovalov]

Nice stuff. Who in their right mind would spend similar money on a i5-7600k unless all they are going to play for the next 3-5 years is old single threaded poorly optimized games.

[BitMaster]

BTW, new ( Beta- ) Bios available:

 

PRIME X370-PRO BIOS 0803

Beta BIOS with AGESA 1.0.0.6

Note: Updating BIOS method suggested

1.ASUS EZ Flash3: Update the BIOS by USB or Internet.

2.ASUS EZ Update: Update the BIOS in Windows environment, please download the ASUS EZ Update -V2.03.16 via the following link http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/Utility/AI_Suite_III_V10177_Ez_update-V20316.zip?_ga=2.121506312.1028612146.1495609681-1198895981.1478769839

 

 

edit* :

 

flashed the Bios and OLA..now it doesnt need 1.25vDIMM anymore to boot :) D.O.C.P. alone does the trick ans she boots with 2666. Love it !

 

along with the Bios came new AMD chipset drivers, Audio and USB3.1. Check it out if you own a Asus X370 board.

Edited June 13, 2017 by BitMaster

[kobac]

Okay I'm glad you're satisfied, :thumbup: but have you tried DCS on that computer?

Where are we with freezes, micro-stuttering, FPS and other known glitches that accompany this simulation ...

[Brigg]

glad to here you are having good results with dcs on ryzen. im gonna be all over a r7 1700 at the end of the month with all these price cuts.