USA side NEEDS MORE PLANES

[edward1976]

where can i talk to an AMERICAN developer then? sorry guys i didnt realize this was a big problem. sorry for "spamming" also. and i also hate to say is that all teh sits ive been posting this i feel that some of these peeps are anti-american lol

 

In the Pentagon. A joke.

Anywhere. ED - the Russian developers. You can try to communicate to the publisher (but not the developer!) in the USA. The greatest percent of profit goes from the USA and UK.

Success.

P. S. Excuse, it is machine translation.

[Shaman]

just give us an mig 27 with glass cockpit and moving map display

 

:doh:

[F l a n k e r]

MiG-27... ahhhhhh......

[7rooper]

I think that if ED was so close to make the F-18 flyable it's time now to do so in its upcoming BS.

Here's my list of wishes for the BS addon:

 

* A mig 21 for the AI

* New hi-res models for the already flyable planes

* make the F-18 finally flyable -yeah! there's tons of information about it out there-

* AFM for the flyables planes or at least for the A-10

* Clickable and 6DFO's pits for the flyables

 

If all of these besides the other cool things mentioned before area added this will worth every buck (peso, in my case) it costs

[hitman]

Im gonna go out on a limb here and say no.

[SuperKungFu]

I think that if ED was so close to make the F-18 flyable it's time now to do so in its upcoming BS.

Here's my list of wishes for the BS addon:

 

* A mig 21 for the AI

* New hi-res models for the already flyable planes

* make the F-18 finally flyable -yeah! there's tons of information about it out there-

* AFM for the flyables planes or at least for the A-10

* Clickable and 6DFO's pits for the flyables

 

If all of these besides the other cool things mentioned before area added this will worth every buck (peso, in my case) it costs

 

a mig-21 - maybe since strike is making one

hires model for flyables - maybe, i stress the term maybe a lot because we only seen some new models like mig-29, su-25

f-18- no, there's still classified info out there.

AFM- no, except for the su-25/t and ka-50

clcikable and 6dof- no, except for the ka-50.

[The Amazing Flight Lizard]

Ok, something I don't understand... after BS, would they make an SDK? and if we had an SDK there seem to be enough talented modelers and coders out there that we could get some halfway decent new planes in here.

 

Also.. the two seater thing I don't get either. Why all this talk about AI and 2 sets of eyes etc.

If you don't have someone join you in a 2 seater aircraft, don't fly it, or have a severe disadvantage when you can't use the systems that rely on a RIO/WSO to operate them

As for the 2 sets of eyes... yeah, that's on of those things you get with 2 crewmembers.

There are plenty of games out there that allow more than one person in a vehicle at a time. They don't get some inordinate advantage.

 

I personally would love to see this game take a new turn, it gorgeous as it is, incredibly realistic but can you imagine if there was a whole force on force, B1s flying around, piloted by players, being escorted and intercepted by players in fighters. Apaches doing their business on the ground having to stay low and avoid the fighters above?

 

I guess what I would have in mind would be Operation: Flashpoint without the ground component but a killer FM.

[monotwix]

Yes you absolutly right about what you are saying.

It's being said nomber of times that it's not posible to make a twin seater flyable becose it takes two to fly it, so what? It's posible to make AI and/or multiplayer to control just like you can have a gunner in IL2.

I also want to mention other things like regional weather ie nomber of clouds and rain etc which could be set to circulate around the map.

 

After all this is the kind of game that once you learn it you can't get enough of it and this is the case where you don't wana get stack with the same thing all the time so you'd like to expect more.

And like me for example, Im gona buy a PC and hardware just for this game by the time BS comes out.

 

So yes as some don't like to mention that it might be the last add-on but it's totaly worth saying that we want more.

[Maverick-90]

Ok, something I don't understand... after BS, would they make an SDK? and if we had an SDK there seem to be enough talented modelers and coders out there that we could get some halfway decent new planes in here.

 

do you see what happens to all the microsoft Combat sims? they get modded and modded, and it won't take long until some dumba$$ builds himself a plane able to carry 2048 missiles and about 500guns, going mach 5 and turning on a post stamp......where's the fun and realism in THAT? ED is doing well in not releasing their SDK, Lockon stays the best this way, if they give us the options to design planes and flight models, but keep the tools to import them into the game, and only let tested planes which are no cheats enter the game, it would be ok

[monotwix]

do you see what happens to all the microsoft Combat sims? they get modded and modded, and it won't take long until some dumba$$ builds himself a plane able to carry 2048 missiles and about 500guns, going mach 5 and turning on a post stamp......where's the fun and realism in THAT? ED is doing well in not releasing their SDK, Lockon stays the best this way

Yes that's right however statistics show that most of us (in lock on) are grownups and non of us wana fly cartoons and ED should stick to thair trade mark, to say it right.

 

Here is an example: you have youre AI wingman REALISTIC isnt it, well how about co-pilot?

 

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su24/su244.html

[PythonOne]

dude, there's always going to be people out there who wants to cheat and create some awesome plane no matter what "statistics" say. We have people playing this game from all ages, not only adults.

 

here's an example

http://www.lockonfiles.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&cid=131&lid=724&ttitle=WF33_V1.3_Model#dldetails

 

Someone created that fictional aircraft WF33, now imagine if that had its own FM and weapons, it would be totally cheating. So forget about lock on having these new/cheating aircraft, it would totally ruin the realism.

As for the co-pilot thing, its still unrealistic if it was done by an AI because the AI can never replace the human feedback.

[The Amazing Flight Lizard]

Ok, I understand this, but what about going onto locked servers? Also, what if EVERYBODY had to have that mod for you to be able to use it, that way, the only people flying these cheat planes would be the ones who are flying them with each other.

 

I seriously think that is a bit of a cheesy reason not to have new stuff.

 

 

And to pay big bucks just for one new airplane and FM? If they took so long on one, albeit to get it perfect, why not utilize the community that it has, with all of its collective skills?

 

And if your model/FM sucks... then nobody will use it, simple enough.

[monotwix]

ED should stick to thair trade mark,

Just quoting my self.

[Frostie]

Mig-25 ,you know it makes sense.:cheer3nc:

[monotwix]

:cheer3nc: no it does not :yawn:

[Spins321]

Just a quick note,

There is plenty of flight data related to both the F-15 and the F/A-18 available through NASA's website. And TO manuals for both the F-15 and the Hornet describe in enough detail how the navigation systems work and how they are accessed through MFD/MPCD and the HUDs.

As far as tactical manuals regarding weapons systems, there are some floating around out there (more so for the hornet than the F15), but there is also plenty of other material that could be referenced to gain that type of information. So, what I'm saying is, there's plenty of material out there that could be referenced to make a fairly accurate (more accurate than what we have now) versions of some of the US aircraft.

But, I must say, as someone who works with alot of this stuff... I'm glad they don't have the info. :-P

[Oleksandr]

As soon as AI aircraft are concerned, we really need Prowler, Jaguar, Harrier and, may be C-2A Greyhound for the full set of carrier-based aircraft.

My dream are the high-quality models for KC-10A, E-3A and C-17A.

 

It could also be pefrect to have some civilian AI aircraft in the game.

[Frostie]

Welcome to the Crimean the home of USAF.:megalol:

You guys crack me up.

Lets get this straight -the World does not revolve around the USA.:D

F-## would be nice for you guys but this is a Russian sim based on Russian planes and I like it that way, if I want to fly western i'll fly Falcon or wait for Fighterops or fly the plethora of other US based sims.

[GGTharos]

You're out of date :)

 

LO - or whatever it will become in the future - is setting up to become quite international in terms of flyables, as far as I can tell.

 

Welcome to the Crimean the home of USAF.:megalol:

You guys crack me up.

Lets get this straight -the World does not revolve around the USA.:D

F-## would be nice for you guys but this is a Russian sim based on Russian planes and I like it that way, if I want to fly western i'll fly Falcon or wait for Fighterops or fly the plethora of other US based sims.

[The Amazing Flight Lizard]

I'm not suggesting just US stuff... just suggesting more flyables. As far as being penalized... you won't be... the other guy will, if nobody will want to play... and a locked server, if you have proven yourself not to be an ass, it shouldn't be a problem, but for those guys who are..well... asses.

 

All I am saying is that it would be nice to have all sorts of planes to fly, in a realistic environment and with the talent that is out there, why not make ED's job easier for them.

I personally want to be flying a blackhawk, inserting AI soldiers into a hot lz while some other players who are fighter jocks furball above me.

 

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

[PythonOne]

not going to happen, clear and simple.

[suntrace1]

You could try Battlefield or Armed Assault for Blackhawk and insertion, but I doubt you'll see that in LOMAC.

 

Me personaly, would love to see old F-5 as flyable and MiG-21 on the other side. Pretty simple planes in every respect.

[The Amazing Flight Lizard]

As far as the hawk insertion, I know it's not gonna happen. But I think it would be nice if we could somewhat more accurately portray a large part of the air forces in a hypothetical battle/war and make it as playable as possible. Maybe it wouldn't be overly fun to fly a kc-10...but it would be nice to have the option. I truly don't understand why most of the models can't be flown. The model is there, it follows certain guidelines for flight... all that it needs is more tweaking, building a cockpit and a a playable setup.

 

Yes, I know it's an oversimplification. But shouldn't it be on the table in some form instead of paying X amount for an expansion that includes 1 aircraft? Patches are nice, model revamps are nice, but they are all things that can be done by the community, and I don't think the kids want to break into this game overly much because the learning curve is so steep, and there's not nearly as much instant gratification.

[Red Hammer]

But I'll agree three versions of the Mig-29 is a little much, one would have sufficed IMO, but more than likely we'll just have to wait and see.

 

3 version of MiG-29? Why I can only have 2, MiG-29A and MiG-29S.

What is the third version? How did you get it?:surprise:

[SuperKungFu]

you forgot MiG-29G