Windows Mixed Reality

[Count Sessine]

Still sometimes issues with sideways tracking, I trust Microsoft/SteamVR to fix this soon though :)

 

I had that too sometimes (I also suspected bad lighting), but solved it by re-running the 'seated' setup each time you start a VR session. It's very simple. Just point the headset at the screen and press a button. The headset likes that very much :)

Edited March 28, 2018 by Count Sessine

[D4n]

Standing?? I don't have space for that, seated mode was the main reason I bought Dell Visor xD

[Count Sessine]

Standing?? I don't have space for that, seated mode was the main reason I bought Dell Visor xD

 

Sorry, I meant seated of course :)

[D4n]

Ah ik. Yes I know it can be fixed by doing that, but in multiplayer dogfight there is no time to do that... -.-

[D4n]

Nice!!! Working in multiplayer without crashing now! :D (Only sometimes 1-2 sec loading screen, but I think only because my 6 GB VRAM on GTX 1060)

[D4n]

I think new Nvidia driver fixed it.

[D4n]

Ok is way more stable now it seems, but still crashing in multiplayer after some time, game just freezes, then CTD, no crash log or anything... (I posted the crash in VR section of game crashes)

[D4n]

Can anyone here run WMR in 2.5.1 in multiplayer without problems? If so, could you please do a test with a GTX 1060 6GB and tell me if it crashes for you after some minutes?

[imaxx]

Recently got an Odyssey to see if it performed better than the CV1.

 

I'm running into a weird issue though. In DCS, and only in DCS, the left and right eyes are not being rendered at the same height. The right eye is further up than the left.

 

Can't find any info on what might be causing this, but it has made it unusable. The headset works fine in WMR and SteamVR home environments.

 

I have the same issue here with my odyssey.

Project Cars2 and Elite Dangerous are running fine, only during the startup screen in Elite i have the same problem.

But in the game it is okay.

In DCS also the cockpit is rendered in different heights...

 

I hope that there is a way to solve that.

[D4n]

There is. Press numpad 5 to center view. Also please tell me if you can run DCS 2.5.1 on your Odyssey for more than 10 minutes and which graphics card you have. (Still waiting for reply by Rik about GTX 1060/RX 580 compatibility)

[wormeaten]

(Still waiting for reply by Rik about GTX 1060/RX 580 compatibility)

 

Any card with HDMI 2.0 is compatible. I think both cards have HDMI 2:0.

Performance does not depend only on GPU. It is GPU and software demand so you will always improve performance lowering details or not forcing high super sampling.

 

To find your sweet spot with details will be a combination of compromises.

There is a guy who using Pimax4K with 1050ti in DCS so that means it is possible to run DCS with 1060/RX 580.

 

Pimax4K have similar native resolution 1280x1440 per eye. Here is video true lens.

 

Edited May 1, 2018 by wormeaten

[imaxx]

Hello, numpad 5 centers the view but the alignment of the displays stays wrong.

I had problems with Elite Dangerous and HMD crashes but with th new Nvidia drivers everithing is fine.

 

I use a GTX 1080

[SkateZilla]

There is. Press numpad 5 to center view. Also please tell me if you can run DCS 2.5.1 on your Odyssey for more than 10 minutes and which graphics card you have. (Still waiting for reply by Rik about GTX 1060/RX 580 compatibility)

 

It's a Holiday in Russia, dont expect anything until next week, in terms of a response, even then, most of the time, things/queries like this are delegated down to the testers team, and anyone with similar hardware.

[NineLine]

There is. Press numpad 5 to center view. Also please tell me if you can run DCS 2.5.1 on your Odyssey for more than 10 minutes and which graphics card you have. (Still waiting for reply by Rik about GTX 1060/RX 580 compatibility)

 

Wags uses the Odyssey almost exclusively now. I will ask him if he has had any issues with 2.5.1. I will have the Odyssey sometime next week.

 

A 1060 is a pretty week card in most cases. You will need to adjust accordingly.

[D4n]

Weak of course, but game shouldn't freeze in main menu after 30-120 seconds and crash without the DCS crash reporter coming up... I will go for one more test without my active displayPort-VGA adapter plugged in (to power my monitor while I have my WMR plugged into my only HDMI port)

 

I'm starting to believe it's my Dell Visor that is broken...

Edited May 2, 2018 by DanielNL

[D4n]

Please, everyone read and sign! :) (Anonymous possible to!) https://www.change.org/p/ceo-of-eagle-dynamics-eagle-dynamics-support-medium-end-graphics-cards-for-wmr-by-the-end-of-may

[SkateZilla]

I think you need to realize that the 1060 is not Suitable for DCS VR and go from there.

 

WMR Forces Windows 10, SteamVR/OculusVR Does Not.

[NineLine]

Weak of course, but game shouldn't freeze in main menu after 30-120 seconds and crash without the DCS crash reporter coming up... I will go for one more test without my active displayPort-VGA adapter plugged in (to power my monitor while I have my WMR plugged into my only HDMI port)

 

I'm starting to believe it's my Dell Visor that is broken...

 

Of course, you should be able to tweak your graphics and get acceptable gameplay, but the 1060 is cheaper than the 1070 and 1080 for a reason. ED cant solve the fact it is a low-end card. and DCS Worlds are bigger than most any other VR worlds out there.

 

So you can do a petition or whatever, but its up to you to optimize your system based on your specs. I use a 1070 with WMR and the Odyssey Headset. And it runs great, but not with the same graphic settings I use for regular viewing.

[sze5003]

I use a Samsung Odyssey with pixel density 1.5 and mostly high settings except shadows low, AF x16, and global shadows default. Heatblur and lens flare off, msa X2. On dcs 2.5.1. It runs smooth for the most part. It could be optimized better for sure. I think it was a bit smoother in 2.5 though.

 

I seem to have an issue only sometimes where I'll lean in and instead of getting closer to an instrument, the cockpit moves away from me..it looks like it is sliding away. I always have to go back to the wmr app and run setup and select the sitting position setup mode.

 

Has anyone experienced this?

[dburne]

I use a Samsung Odyssey with pixel density 1.5 and mostly high settings except shadows low, AF x16, and global shadows default. Heatblur and lens flare off, msa X2. On dcs 2.5.1. It runs smooth for the most part. It could be optimized better for sure. I think it was a bit smoother in 2.5 though.

 

I seem to have an issue only sometimes where I'll lean in and instead of getting closer to an instrument, the cockpit moves away from me..it looks like it is sliding away. I always have to go back to the wmr app and run setup and select the sitting position setup mode.

 

Has anyone experienced this?

 

Not sure but sounds like maybe a lost tracking issue.

I have seen that in my Rift before - very seldom though and has been a while, and it was when for whatever reason my sensors lost tracking at the time.

[D4n]

WMR Forces Windows 10, SteamVR/OculusVR Does Not.

 

what does this statement have to do with this?

[D4n]

its up to you to optimize your system based on your specs.

 

It seems I haven't been clear enough: DCS CRASHES IN MAIN MENU (no performance demands at all) after only 30-60 seconds without me moving my mouse, only moving my WMR headset.

[sze5003]

Not sure but sounds like maybe a lost tracking issue.

I have seen that in my Rift before - very seldom though and has been a while, and it was when for whatever reason my sensors lost tracking at the time.

Could be but I'm not sure. My friend also got an odyssey and sold his rift. He experienced the same thing a few times.

 

Although tracking usually is fine for me. I still have my rift but I can't go back to it now that I've seen much better cockpit visuals.

 

I've tried searching for it but haven't come up with anything. I figured it was the wmr for steam app software sine once I would run the set up for sitting mode, it would be fine. Last time I used it, it didn't do this. It's random.

[D4n]

OK readers of this thread, I just received a report from sb (discord) who has it working with his 1060, sign the petition only if you wish to, as it appears my 1060 is broken.

Edited May 9, 2018 by DanielNL

[SkateZilla]

what does this statement have to do with this?

 

ED tends not to support APIs that Require Users to Upgrade. Hence the Reason for Going w/ Vulkan instead of DirectX12,

That and WMR Has a Plugin for SteamVR, so there's no Point to expand Supported API's from OculusVR and SteamVR APIs to include the WMR API.

 

That being said, I have spoken to 4 users in my group that run WMR HMDs.

1x Dell Visor on a Overclocked RX580

2x Samsung Odyssey's on 1080's

1x Lenovo Explorer on a Vega 56

 

None of them are having lockups on the menu or any type of persistent crashing.

 

 

At this point it looks more like a HARDWARE ISSUE than a DCS ISSUE.

 

DCS Should not be locking up on the mainscreen as you say it is, that typically happens when there's a Hardware Issue (GPU Overheating, GPU Memory Controller Crash etc can all be caused by trying to run VR on a entry level GPU).

 

 

 

At this Point, I can look at your detailed system specs and your DCS Settings, but it looks like a Hardware Problem w/ either your GPU or your System Memory or USB Controller.

(Specific USB Controllers have issues with all VR Devices due to the bandwidth they need for low latency tracking).

 

I need a Screenshot of the DCS Settings for both graphics and VR Tabs.

 

As well as a DXDIAG TXT Readout.

Edited May 9, 2018 by SkateZilla