gundelgauk Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 I haven't played online yet You should. :D I am interested though in the Hog and the Frog and mud moving. How does this work online? Do you join an online campaign which changes after a set time? or what? Can you reload and repair with all aircraft when landing at a friendly airfield? (if I make it that far :lol:) Also is it a 'free for all' or is there a pecking order ie. lead, wingman etc. Well I can only speak for the VVS504-Air2Grnd server because I recently fell in love with the A-10 and then the 25T and I've been playing on this server since. It has no fighter aircraft available which I like because usually I get shot down by an F-15 or a MiG long before reaching the target area on the other servers when I try to go A2G. Generally speaking, the missions on there involve a stand-off or battle on the ground between red and blue forces and the players are to provide CAS and sometimes SEAD support. Flight time to the target area is not too far, about 40-90km usually I think. The missions run for 120 minutes (I think) and after that, a new mission is loaded. I don't know how many people coordinate themselves with teamspeak because I don't use it (I'm afraid that I'd make a fool out of myself, lol) but it seems that most people just fly for themselves. At least when there are not many people on the server. You can land on any airfield, even hostile ones and repair/reload/refuel there. It's kind of unrealistic, although I've been thankful for it a number of times when the occasional Igla managed to blast the engines off my fuselage. :music_whistling: EDIT: (And both the VVS504[...] Wow, it's VV and not W? Sorry, editing that.:doh:
PaddyTB Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Online is great. More social. Much more rewarding too. Whether you are Good or bad, there is nothing like your first online kill. Can have a bit of a joke with the other players too. Playing offline, the computer seldom gets the joke ;) Come to think of it... Playing online, people seldom gets my sense of humour ;) But like many others have said, offline is good for testing and experimentation. If I want to have fun. Its always online. If you think "Oh, I'm not good enough for online play" thats just BS. Get in there, you'll have a blast. Most people are generally very helpful. What have you got to lose. Just don't teamkill. I am guilty of that at times. (unintentionally) AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Socket 939, Motherboard Abit AV8, Corsair DDR PC3200 - 4 x 512 MB ASUS AX800Pro Flashed to X800 XT, Samsung CD/DVDRW, Seagate 2 x SATA 250G RAID, Creative Soundblaster XFi Xtreme music, Trackir 3 Pro, Saitek X52 Pro, Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit
gundelgauk Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Playing online, people seldom gets my sense of humour ;) Would you mind giving an example? I'm curious like that. ;) If you think "Oh, I'm not good enough for online play" thats just BS. Yes, one just has to be careful not to get frustrated though. Always remember it's just a game and everyone is trying to have fun and not trying to mock others etc. Oh and that's not Black Shark you're talking about, I guess, lol. Most people are generally very helpful. As long as it's not "zomg, how do I start my engines?!?", anytime!
S77th-konkussion Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 For those of you standing on the edge of the multiplayer cliff.. Myth: Everyone in HL is a shark with uber-skillz. Fact: many people are no different than you- just starting off. Myth: I have to get good with AI before getting online. Fact: hmm no, not really. In fact getting good against AI is probably detrimental because they both suck & cheat in so many ways- I don't know where to begin. You could say "I need to learn to take off and land, have a basic knowledge of systems & weapons, IFF, and be willing to read and follow the rules of the server." Yep. That'll do. Myth: I will get picked on when I get killed. Fact:... ummmm -No. If you are a good sport you will virtually never get picked on. If some a-### did that to a noob or anyone else in our server unprovoked- he'd be toast. It's not only rare- it's not tolerated. Sorry- the one most likely to laugh at you is probably in the room with you watching. Myth: It's all airquake. Fact: Sorry but this is Barbra Streisand. It's what you make of it. If you enter a server that has 1 or 2 guys flying A2G and you figure you're gonna fantasize about your mad-skillz by shooting them down over & over from 15 miles away- than you are the problem. Obviously- the 2 ground pounders choices are: a- changing planes and coming back to slap you silly. (count S77th in for that) b. have to go to a different server. There are also dedicated air to ground servers and individual dedicated air to ground missions present all the time. Cut the excuses. This one in particular is getting stale. (True story! A pilot wanting to pick on ground pounders and then whined on a forum about Airquake after we switched and shellaqued him!) Myth: All the servers are on ACE settings. Fact : This is mostly true, not a myth. :D Call it "toughlove" ladies & gents. It is not our goal to meet the needs of the lowest common denominator. If you really want to get better- this is the way it must be- regardless of your current level of skill. However- there are some occasions where the settings are relaxed to help the truly green among us to just TRY it. You can start your own server and set it as you wish. I have a seen a few doing just that lately. meh... gotta get ready for work.. outta time.. 2 [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
jurinko Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 I plan to start online, but now I do not have time even for offline play since working on some project for IL-2. Looking forward to BS though..
gundelgauk Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Myth: Everyone in HL is a shark with uber-skillz. Fact: many people are no different than you- just starting off. Well in fact it's true that if you go online for the first couple of times, you're very likely to get your behind handed to you. I first had to learn to be careful and avoid certain engagements before I was able to safely land again, instead of being blown to pieces. Making these experiences is part of the fun however and nothing beats realizing that you've gotten better. You could say "I need to learn to take off and land, have a basic knowledge of systems & weapons, IFF, and be willing to read and follow the rules of the server." 100% signed. Myth: I will get picked on when I get killed. Fact:... ummmm -No. This is what I was really impressed about the LockOn community. I will never forget the time I flew a Su-27 on some server against members of some squad in F-15s. I was still very inexperienced and this one guy kept killing me with Slammers. After the fourth kill, he jokingly commented that I seriously needed to learn how to evade AMRAAMS. I told him I had watched Ironhand's tutorials but I just couldn't get it to work right. He immediately offered to teach me in a private game (!) with teamspeak. I had to politely decline at that time because I had to stop playing soon. I seriously hope he wasn't offended. Myth: All the servers are on ACE settings. Fact : This is mostly true, not a myth. Personally I wouldn't have it any other way. I have been playing on servers with labels for example, and it simply ruins the experience. You have no chance of trying to be stealthy by using EOS, etc. Sure, it might be easier, but getting better at ACE settings is not that hard either, but much more rewarding!
DancinBear Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 You should. :D Thanks for the replies, I might try online soon Thanx:thumbup:
chrno120 Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 I fly Lock On Offline most of the time, though i already had a couple of online sessions. The most stupid member in the forum
GGTharos Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 ... R-27ER macro? O.o [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
gundelgauk Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Used to fly 100% on-line but got sick to death of the cheating (Editing of graphics file for 50km visuals, ECM macros, R-27ET spamming and R-27ER macro). Apart from the ECM macros (I take it you're referring to the "blinking" about which there is a thread at the moment), I haven't heard of any of these. Still, I usually manage to make kills just fine. Sure, people will always cheat but it's by far not as bad as you make it seem to be. It's a pitty that a part of the community are accepting these cheats. :( Well, as I said, there is a thread about the ECM blinking issue. We have been told that it is on the list of things to be fixed. I have encountered this as well, but for me it's really not often. And if some guy keeps doing it, I can always join another server.
*Rage* Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Editing of graphics files for 50km visuals? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
tflash Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 I occasionally play online, but not often. However, I think you only truly get to learn the game when you play online. First time I played online I discovered there were a lot of bare essentials I never knew of. Like "how do you start the engines?" to name one. But certainly tactics and SA are difficult to learn against AI. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Pilotasso Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 I play online exclusively. Despite the exploits, fortunatly they are still outnumbered by those who play it fair and square. Cheers! .
Program2 Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Editing of graphics files for 50km visuals? Yeah what is this one about?
GGTharos Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Apparently setting your visibility to high will make F-15's and Su-27's 'visible' at some 40-50km. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Program2 Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Apparently setting your visibility to high will make F-15's and Su-27's 'visible' at some 40-50km. Thanks for the quick reply. Do you mean the VISIBLE RANGE setting in Options?
GGTharos Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 I believe that's the one. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
TucksonSonny Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 I personally don't but wish to try and see what it is like. I am very poor at air combat so I am a easy target and a sitting duck but I would like to try some day. Mizzy A long time ago I was pretty good BVR online but lately it is rather rare that I am online or on top of the stat list with 4/0 and having about 200 points. A couple of months ago that bitch (Lady X) got me twice in 10 minutes :D . I will give it another try next WK. Anyway only a kill scored with 27ER is giving me satisfaction :thumbup: DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
fretwear Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 I have never played Lock On online. That's getting ready to change as I'm getting a few locals interested in the game so things should get more interesting here shortly. :) --------------------- FX 55 Sandy@ 3.03 GHz Tuniq Tower 120 DFI Lanparty CFX 3200-DR/G (2X) X1950XTX Crossfire@ 695 core 2048 OCZ PC 3200 Platinum (2-3-2-5) Antec TP3 650 Samsung 19" LCD (8ms) Saitek X-45 HOTAS Track IR 4 CH Pro Pedals :pilotfly:
jpm1 Posted February 22, 2007 Posted February 22, 2007 Playing online s very cool specially when you are with a bomber escorted by good wingmans :) the problem it s that there are few servers what s well it s that community s how s mature guys who shoot to their team mates it s very rare i ve just purchased a new server it ll be Lock on dedicated exclusively (3200+ 1024RAM X550) SU-25 missions [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mizzy Posted February 23, 2007 Author Posted February 23, 2007 Thank you all for lucid accounts of why and how you play Lock on. I don't play online as stated because maybe it would be no point as I am extremely poor at fighting and my standard is a joke. However I do realise the attraction of playing on line (human instead of AI = much better) but I am just never going to be any good so that is the main reason for me not playing on line. That is not say I won't ;) Mizzy
Frostie Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Thank you all for lucid accounts of why and how you play Lock on. I don't play online as stated because maybe it would be no point as I am extremely poor at fighting and my standard is a joke. However I do realise the attraction of playing on line (human instead of AI = much better) but I am just never going to be any good so that is the main reason for me not playing on line. That is not say I won't ;) Mizzy The reality is that its not that hard to be good at all, just a few basic things to keep to and you'd be flying. Hop on HyperLobby and im sure there would be plenty of people there willing and able to help you out and guide you through the basics of survival. I don't know if it might seeem daunting at first ,but believe me once you taste it you'll be hooked, theres a whole bunch of sound chaps and the odd chapess on HL just enjoying the occasion. "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
graywo1fg Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Online with the "Death From Above DFA" HECK YEA MAN!!!!! :thumbup:.... ofline is only for training and testing weapons :P and is boring offline. it truely is a thrill to get our comms full of people and fly in together and coordinate a massive attack!!! really fun circling overhead watching people your talking to blow the crap out of stuff and having a great time! Voice of Jester AI Death From Above =DFA= Squadron Discord - https://discord.gg/deathfromabove http://www.twitch.tv/graywo1f https://www.youtube.com/user/Lonewo1fg
PaddyTB Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 Would you mind giving an example? I'm curious like that. ;) Good god,don't put me on the spot. now I've got stage fright.:noexpression: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Socket 939, Motherboard Abit AV8, Corsair DDR PC3200 - 4 x 512 MB ASUS AX800Pro Flashed to X800 XT, Samsung CD/DVDRW, Seagate 2 x SATA 250G RAID, Creative Soundblaster XFi Xtreme music, Trackir 3 Pro, Saitek X52 Pro, Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 32 Bit
LawnDart Posted February 23, 2007 Posted February 23, 2007 The poll question is poorly worded woudn't you say?!? "Who plays online and who does not?" ...It's easy to understand the intent of the poll creator, but how does one answer 'yes' or 'no' to that? "Do you not play online or do you play online" answer yes or no please!!! LMAO! :megalol: 99% of my flying is online! [sigpic]http://www.virtualthunderbirds.com/Signatures/sig_LD.jpg[/sigpic] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Corsair 750D Case | Corsair RM850i PSU | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X CODE | 32GB Corsair DDR4 3200 | Intel i7-8086K | Corsair Hydro H100i v2 Cooler | EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW | Oculus Rift | X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty | Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB NVMe | Samsung SSD 850 EVO 1TB | WD Caviar Black 2 x 1TB | TM HOTAS Warthog | TM Pendular Rudder | TM MFD Cougar Pack | 40" LG 1080p LED | Win10 |
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