Black Shark Update, 16 September 2007

[Flyby]

thanks GGT, and AirTito for your inciteful replies. much appreciated here. Now to stretch this weenie just a bit more, which of you ED beta testers are willing to hold online BS flight instruction classes? :D it's just a thought, but I can easily see how such classes might get a decent turn out. heck, I might even sign up too! ;) don't all ED testers hurry to be the first one. far better to divide this type of instruction up, I guess. Someone holds procedural classes, someone else holds weapons-employment classes, etc.

While I've got my hand out, how about a few new screenies? Nothing that hasn't been shown before, but maybe a variation on a theme? I'll think of more stuff to ask for later.

Flyby out

[RvETito]

I believe the best way to learn things is to join a squad. There the training is part of the squad's life. I don't see the point of having dedicated BS training squad though.

[Flyby]

re:

 

I believe the best way to learn things is to join a squad. There the training is part of the squad's life. I don't see the point of having dedicated BS training squad though.

 

well, that's one anwer, and maybe a good one. OK. forget I mentioned it.

[graywo1fg]

....yes.... like a dedicated air to ground squad.... that loves air to ground... and cant wait for BS to come out ... :P...........

[GGTharos]

which of you ED beta testers are willing to hold online BS flight instruction classes?

 

Not from me, I'd just get you killed :D

I believe the manual might be adequate for this though ... or if not, someone's bound to write a good guide, and I'm sure some of the testers will help out.

 

While I've got my hand out, how about a few new screenies? Nothing that hasn't been shown before, but maybe a variation on a theme? I'll think of more stuff to ask for later.

 

 

Nope, sorry, no can do. The NDA is the NDA - we cannot release screenshots without permission.

[Groove]

Well, i played Gunship2000, Longbow2, Gunship! but compared to BS! they are arcade games.

 

Im still learning / trying to let the Ka-50 do what i want it to do. Im eager to see how many time i will have to invest to be a somehow "good" pilot, not talking about expert.

[Flyby]

Hey Groove,

I always thought Gunship! at least had decent masking for rotorheads to ply their trade, maybe better than LB2. Do you find BS to be equal to the task when it comes to masking? I like to ask that question for reinforcement (not to stir anything up).

Flyby out

[Groove]

I cant give you a answer for your question yet as im still in the process of learning to fly the helo :D

[Flyby]

rgrt. happy auto-rotating! :D

Flyby out

[amalahama]

Well, all I can tell you is from what I have seen on these english forums, ED had been very interested in information about AH-64. But I don't know if they will make one. My guess is that since they were asking about it, they are or have been thinking about it. So I would imagine it is a possibility, but I would also think that because they did the A-10C for the ANG, we would probably see an A-10 after BS, because a lot of the work for it has already been done.

 

But, again, I am only speculating, as I have no real information about the plan ahead.

 

It would be great if someday an Apache is released in Tank Killers. It's funny that the Ah-64 model in BS is more detailed than Ka-50 model LOL.:lol:

 

Regards!!!!

[ALDEGA]

Im still learning / trying to let the Ka-50 do what i want it to do. Im eager to see how many time i will have to invest to be a somehow "good" pilot, not talking about expert.

You have access to LOBS?

[Groove]

Yes i have Aldega.

[Nordic]

It would be great to have the manual of BS a few days earlier available before the actual release of Black Shark. Any plans on that?

[britgliderpilot]

Yes i have Aldega.

 

Perhaps you shouldn't have admitted to that - it seems it'd open up a whole can of worms . . . .

 

 

It would be great to have the manual of BS a few days earlier available before the actual release of Black Shark. Any plans on that?

 

IIRC it happened for Flaming Cliffs.

So I wouldn't rule out the possibility of it happening - however, it will probably take more than a couple of days to familarise yourself with the helicopter and it's systems.

 

If you don't have some kind of helicopter sim already, go get your hands on one. Previous heli experience will be invaluable when you start flying the Ka50.

[Nordic]

Thx- sounds promising. I'm aware of the fact that you will need some more days to understand all the systems. Of course i wouldn't mind getting the manual even earlier than a few days before release.

I don't have any sim experience with helis, but i have an rc-heli.

Btw: Is there any helicopter sim which you can recommend?

[Ramstein]

Thx- sounds promising. I'm aware of the fact that you will need some more days to understand all the systems. Of course i wouldn't mind getting the manual even earlier than a few days before release.

I don't have any sim experience with helis, but i have an rc-heli.

Btw: Is there any helicopter sim which you can recommend?

 

the other Helo sims are so flaky, I don't see it being any help fly eech, or other, to learn before htis comes out... as long as you have a Hotas flight stick and pedals, you wil be fine. As far as having clickable buttons controls on the cockpit, Falcon 4 is best for that.

 

IMHO

:pilotfly:

[Wags]

16 September 2007 Update

 

I’m afraid that there is not much to report since my previous one. The Ka-50 is just about done at this point and we’re mostly focused on testing and bug-fixing its systems. The big item in work in the mission editor (about 80% complete, the campaign builder interface, new pilot log book, and other various GUI screens. Once we get a testable mission editor, I’ll post a little overview of functionality.

[SuperKungFu]

very cool, thanks for the info.

[britgliderpilot]

the other Helo sims are so flaky, I don't see it being any help fly eech, or other, to learn before htis comes out... as long as you have a Hotas flight stick and pedals, you wil be fine. As far as having clickable buttons controls on the cockpit, Falcon 4 is best for that.

 

IMHO

:pilotfly:

 

That's true for combat chopper sims - but to be honest the basic functionality of the main weapons systems doesn't differ much from the Su25T in Flaming Cliffs. If you know how the Skhval and Vikhr combo works, and can figure ripple patterns and rocket CCIP on the Su25T, then you've got a leg-up on the basic combat functionality on the Ka50.

 

Note the words "basic" and "combat" very farefully :P Operating it is still pretty tricky . . . . but if you can both fly a helicopter and fly a gun/rocket/Vikhr run in the Su25T then you can take at least take a running start at Black Shark.

 

 

Falcon 4 gives you a taster of the clickable and systems stuff you'll have to deal with . . . but that's secondary to controlling the thing. Pick either of the latest two Microsoft Flight Simulators, perhaps pick up a couple of addon helicopters from Hovercontrol, and practice until you can take off, hover, spot-land, decelerate to the hover over a certain point, circle-strafe buildings, fly NOE dodging scenery, make hard combat turns at ground level . . .

FSX is particularly good, since it gives you the Missions with a helicopter of limited performance. After that, the Ka50 feels like a sports car ;)

 

Oh, and watch the startup videos and read AirTito's account of Ka32 startup.

[Piffer]

Thank you, Wags.

[Piffer]

thanks GGT, and AirTito for your inciteful replies. much appreciated here. Now to stretch this weenie just a bit more, which of you ED beta testers are willing to hold online BS flight instruction classes? :D it's just a thought, but I can easily see how such classes might get a decent turn out. heck, I might even sign up too! ;) don't all ED testers hurry to be the first one. far better to divide this type of instruction up, I guess. Someone holds procedural classes, someone else holds weapons-employment classes, etc.

While I've got my hand out, how about a few new screenies? Nothing that hasn't been shown before, but maybe a variation on a theme? I'll think of more stuff to ask for later.

Flyby out

 

Thre will be a virtual "tactical flight course" at my blog, based on US, French and Brazilian manuals. The strucutre will be the same of the course at brazilian Army Aviation Instruction Center.

 

:pilotfly:

[7rooper]

Many thanks Wags for keeping us informed. Cant wait to see how the new ME works!.

[plane00]

About new AI of units

 

As mentioned by Wags

New AI of units will be fine.

I expect strategy which commands units would exist.

[Highwayman-Ed]

Thanks Wags... An update is an update.

 

Even if it doesn't seem like much, we appreciate being kept in the loop!

[VMFA117_Poko]

YEah! THX a lot Wags! Hope there won't be many bugs.