Sylosis Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 I have tried the Open Beta for the first time and I have an issue with graphics. I know the settings reset, so I went and set them roughly as I have them in the released version... and man... it looks like I'd have everything on low... My friends, with whom I play, don,t have that issue... I've searched the forum and didn't find anything that seemed like my problem. Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Sylosis Posted June 3, 2018 Author Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) I'm still trying to figure out how to share screenshots... For some reason I'm too dumb to do it, or so it seems. Nevertheless, it looks like FSX in 2012... But, actually, the gauges look great. Altimeter, etc... but everything else is shit. It's extremely bright, blurry, can't really read the text in the cockpit because it's blurr, etc... My rig: GTX 1060 6Gb i7-6700k 16 GB ram Windows 10-64 bits Edited June 5, 2018 by Sylosis Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Demon_ Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 In Additional Options/Manage Attachments/Browse and Upload. Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
Sylosis Posted June 3, 2018 Author Posted June 3, 2018 Here is an example of how it looks. Here is also a screenshot of my graphic settings Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Sylosis Posted June 3, 2018 Author Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) Sorry, posted the wrong screenshots BTW, I have the latest video card drivers Edited June 3, 2018 by Sylosis Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Repsol2k Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 I would try to turn off Depth of Field , Lens Flares i would also try to shut off and try to use no Cockpit global illumination
Art-J Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 I cringe seeing shadows option on "flat only", as it almost disables them, making the cockpit look crappy for me. That being said, if you're OK with cockpit colours and lights, keep it that way. Writings on the panel do seem to be too blurry though. First thing to remember is the fact that some hidden gfx quality parameters are controlled by "preset" buttons, so if you start with "low" preset and then adjust all options above, it will look a bit different compared to starting with "high" preset and adjusting the rest supposedly the same way. Why don't you try copying the whole "config" folder from Saved Games of your release install to your OB install to see how it affects the appearance of the game? i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
Sylosis Posted June 3, 2018 Author Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) Tried everything of what you both suggested and nothing works. I am joining more screenshots, this time of the Mig21bis, as it is a lot more obvious than the A10 I showed The A10 is not as ugly, but it still is, versus the released version. The screenshot seems to make it look a little bit better, maybe because it is a smaller image, versus what I see on my 32in monitor. As for the Mig21, you'll see 2 screenshots taken from a night mission (which makes it even worse). One is from the Open Beta, the other one from the Released version. The ugly one is from the beta. And it is taken with the "High" preset from the settings. It's right after the start of an instant action. I didn't touch any lights. This is why the other screenshot is so dark. I wanted to keep the same cockpit settings, so I didn't turn on any lights. So ya, that dark screenshot, but still nice, is from the Released version. And by the way, copying the config file from the released version to the beta version made it absolutely worse. The textures were all over the place. For instance, the altimeter numbers were in the middle of the cockpit, and not where the actual gauge is... !! haha Edited June 3, 2018 by Sylosis Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Hoffster Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 Try a repair and deleting the folders fxo and metashaders in saved games.
Sylosis Posted June 3, 2018 Author Posted June 3, 2018 Try a repair and deleting the folders fxo and metashaders in saved games. Deleting the folders competely or just their content? Also, if you don't mind me asking, how do you do a repair on DCS (standalone). Is there a repair utility tool somewhere in the files? Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Hoffster Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 Deleting the folders competely or just their content? Also, if you don't mind me asking, how do you do a repair on DCS (standalone). Is there a repair utility tool somewhere in the files? The folders will be recreated. try that first and then https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/faq/709/
Sylosis Posted June 3, 2018 Author Posted June 3, 2018 As an update, I have tried the following: - I deleted and re-installed DCS Open Beta. Before downloading my modules, and even copying my config files for controls, I first tried an instant action with the Su-25T. Still ugly on high settings. - I tried the cleanup and repair method that was suggested. Still didn't help. See a screenshot of how it looks like. I will then try to delete the folders, as suggested and let you know what it did. Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Sylosis Posted June 3, 2018 Author Posted June 3, 2018 All right, so after deleting the 2 folders, named "fxo" and "metashaders2" from the OpenBeta Saved Game location, nothing changed. The SU25T looks exactly like the screenshot posted above. Is there, maybe, something that could interfere between NVidia Control Panel and DCS Open Beta? I'm throwing ideas... however I have no clue what I Should be looking for... Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Sylosis Posted June 3, 2018 Author Posted June 3, 2018 (edited) I tried re-installing the previous GPU drivers (doesn't make sense, but why not try right?) Doesn't help either... I'm lost here... Any chance I can have some kind of support by ED? Also, attached are the log files, if that helps in any way... :( Edited June 3, 2018 by Sylosis Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Sylosis Posted June 3, 2018 Author Posted June 3, 2018 Sorry here they areLogs.zip Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Sylosis Posted June 4, 2018 Author Posted June 4, 2018 All right so it seems I'm talking to myself in this thread but whatever.... I'll post anyway in case somebody has the same issues as I have... I realize that, when I re-installed the Open Beta, it probably didn't delete the Open Beta folder in the Saved Games path. The fact is, I still have the DCS Open Alpha (pre 2.5.0) folder in Saved Games, though I have deleted that version of DCS a long time ago. So I should try yet again to re-install the Open Beta, but making sure I completely delete that Saved Games folder called DCS Open Beta (and Open Alpha while I'm at it)... I'm losing faith and I'm not super confident it'll work... but it's worth a try. Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Art-J Posted June 4, 2018 Posted June 4, 2018 If the repair, cleanup and re-installing didn't help (these three methods affect only the main game folder), the source of the problem must be hidden somewhere in the Saved Games folder (as this one is not touched by the above), especially if release build works OK (indicating it's not a general gfx card/driver problem). Purging the Saved Games sounds like a good thing to try then (actually, it's always the thing to do after repair and cleanup fail). i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
QuiGon Posted June 4, 2018 Posted June 4, 2018 I would also change shadows to high or at least medium as flat shadows are indeed pretty ugly. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing!
Sylosis Posted June 4, 2018 Author Posted June 4, 2018 I would also change shadows to high or at least medium as flat shadows are indeed pretty ugly. Yes as a matter of fact, I did change them, though not clearly mentioning it. When using the graphic preset "High" they are set to a higher settings. I don't remember which one, but I think they are set to "High", or at least something better than the Low option. Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Sylosis Posted June 4, 2018 Author Posted June 4, 2018 (edited) If the repair, cleanup and re-installing didn't help (these three methods affect only the main game folder), the source of the problem must be hidden somewhere in the Saved Games folder (as this one is not touched by the above), especially if release build works OK (indicating it's not a general gfx card/driver problem). Purging the Saved Games sounds like a good thing to try then (actually, it's always the thing to do after repair and cleanup fail). All right didn't work either. What I did, instead of deleting it, I just changed the name of the original Saved Game folder from "DCS.Openbeta" to "DCS.openbeta-old". The game did create a new DCS.Openbeta folder, however the issue still stands. I'm officially out of ideas... Thanks for anyone who helped (and who will want to help).... Edited June 4, 2018 by Sylosis Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Sylosis Posted June 5, 2018 Author Posted June 5, 2018 Tried something else yesterday, and it didn't work. I deleted the Saved Game folder again, but this time, before re-opening DCS Open Beta so that it re-creates the folder, I did a clean install of my GPU drivers. So ya, this didn't work either. So maybe the question I have right now, is what is my next step? I mean, it's the first time I encounter such a bug and therefore, the first time I need to report it. Some of you were kind enough to suggests different things, which sadly didn't work. Is ED providing any kind of support? I mean, they changed the title of my post, so I guess "somebody" read it. I thought there was some other more official way to report them a bug, however after doing some research, it seems this forum is the actual way... So ya, just wondering how does it work? Are they jumping in at some point? Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
Goa Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 @Sylosis: what are your computer specs? CPU : Intel i7 8700k@5.0ghz cooled by Noctua NH-D15 / Motherboard:Asorck Z370 Taichi / RAM: 32GB GSkill TridentZ @3600mhz / SSD: 500GB Nvme Samsung 970 evo+1 TB Sabrent Nvme M2 / GPU:Asus Strix OC 2080TI / Monitor: LG 34KG950F Ultrawide / Trackir 5 proclip/ VIRPIL CM2 BASE + CM2 GRIP + F148 GRIP + 200M EXTENSION /VKB T-Rudder MKIV rudder /Case: Fractal Design R6 Define black
nekhron Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 @Sylosis: what are your computer specs? he posted them at the beginning of the post GTX 1060 6Gb i7-6700k 16 GB ram Windows 10-64 bits
shagrat Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 Is ED providing any kind of support? I mean, they changed the title of my post, so I guess "somebody" read it. I thought there was some other more official way to report them a bug, however after doing some research, it seems this forum is the actual way... So ya, just wondering how does it work? Are they jumping in at some point? As it seems this is a bit out of the ordinary, I would suggest opening a support ticket and point them to this thread, just in case. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/ Shagrat - Flying Sims since 1984 - Win 10 | i5 10600K@4.1GHz | 64GB | GeForce RTX 3090 - Asus VG34VQL1B | TrackIR5 | Simshaker & Jetseat | VPForce Rhino Base & VIRPIL T50 CM2 Stick on 200mm curved extension | VIRPIL T50 CM2 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Plus/Apache64 Grip | MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals | WW Top Gun MIP | a hand made AHCP | 2x Elgato StreamDeck (Buttons galore)
Sylosis Posted June 6, 2018 Author Posted June 6, 2018 As it seems this is a bit out of the ordinary, I would suggest opening a support ticket and point them to this thread, just in case. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/ As per your suggestion I did send a ticket. Thanks for suggesting it btw. They responded to my ticket: "the open beta is a BETA".... I don't know if this is Russian humor or something... But hey, since it's a beta, they should be interested in having bug reports, therefore I sent my logs anyway. We'll see how it goes, but I wouldn't give that person who replied 5 stars for customer service :noexpression: Windows 10-64bits, i7-8700k, GTX 1080Ti, 32 Gb RAM, MSI Monitor 32in 165Hz. Mirage 2000C, F5-E, Mig21bis, A10-C, FC3, F-18, AV-8B N/A, F-14, F-16, SuperCarrier
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