imacken Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 I am getting an insane amount of stuttering in the game now. This mod gives me the weird water artifact again, so going to wait until it gets updated. Are you using the clear water version? No problems with it here. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer1-1 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 the latest. I didnt update anything, but now I got clouds and trails being traced in the water again when I move my head. I dont have the water mod. Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE| Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VKB Gunfighter Mk3 MCE Ultimate + STECS/ Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM |Virpil TCS+ AH64D grip + custom AH64D TEDAC | HP Reverb G2 | Windows 11 Pro | |Samsung Odyssey G9 | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro My wallpaper and skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 this is what i am seeing, in VR it is much more vivid SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle_01 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 this is what i am seeing, in VR it is much more vivid Is the original mod or the clear water mod? Intel Core i7 7700, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Intel 660P PCIe NVMe, Zotac 2070 Super Amp, Oculus Rift S A-10C, FA-18C, F-14B, FC3, F-5E, F-86, AV8B, M-2000, Combined Arms, AJS37, F-16C, C-101, MiG-15Bis, MiG-19P, MiG-21Bis, L-39, P-51D, Spitfire LFMkIX, Bf-109, Fw-190 Dora, Fw-190 Anton, P-47D, I-16, SA342, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Ka-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 the clear water mod, you dont get the problem with the original mod, but you also dont get transparent water SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle_01 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) There is a version out there that passes IC, but you will lose the clear water, unless you can mod it to have clear water. Its quite old though. This came out just about when the first 2.5.6 came out DCS VR Shaders 2.5.6 (ICpass).rar Edited May 21, 2020 by Eagle_01 Intel Core i7 7700, 16GB DDR4 RAM, Intel 660P PCIe NVMe, Zotac 2070 Super Amp, Oculus Rift S A-10C, FA-18C, F-14B, FC3, F-5E, F-86, AV8B, M-2000, Combined Arms, AJS37, F-16C, C-101, MiG-15Bis, MiG-19P, MiG-21Bis, L-39, P-51D, Spitfire LFMkIX, Bf-109, Fw-190 Dora, Fw-190 Anton, P-47D, I-16, SA342, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Ka-50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatthis Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 where do i put the shaders folder if i dont have jsgme? 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Pedro= Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 this is what i am seeing, in VR it is much more vivid From your signature I can see that we have almost the same Gear. What steam vr SS do you use? I have my DCS PD set to 1.0 and Steam vr SS to 200%. Cant get any lower then that cause if I do, Im not able to see far objects sharp. Unfortunatly DCS framerate for VR is a joke since 2.5.6 and the new light system... Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X | i7 9700K@5.0GHz | Asus TUF OC RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR4@3200MHz | HP Reverb G2 | TrackIR 5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Croswinds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astrospud Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 From your signature I can see that we have almost the same Gear. What steam vr SS do you use? I have my DCS PD set to 1.0 and Steam vr SS to 200%. Cant get any lower then that cause if I do, Im not able to see far objects sharp. Unfortunatly DCS framerate for VR is a joke since 2.5.6 and the new light system... My system is a wee bit older than yours, running i7 8700k@4.5Ghz and a GTX1070Ti Im not using the clear water mod as yet, as my frames are still not high enough to take a reasonable hit in MP or busy SP missions and remain playable. Can I ask what settings you are using in game? Rectum non bustus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Pedro= Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 My system is a wee bit older than yours, running i7 8700k@4.5Ghz and a GTX1070Ti Im not using the clear water mod as yet, as my frames are still not high enough to take a reasonable hit in MP or busy SP missions and remain playable. Can I ask what settings you are using in game? Here Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X | i7 9700K@5.0GHz | Asus TUF OC RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR4@3200MHz | HP Reverb G2 | TrackIR 5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Croswinds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 From your signature I can see that we have almost the same Gear. What steam vr SS do you use? I have my DCS PD set to 1.0 and Steam vr SS to 200%. Cant get any lower then that cause if I do, Im not able to see far objects sharp. Unfortunatly DCS framerate for VR is a joke since 2.5.6 and the new light system... I currently run my steam ss at 100% in game PD at 1.0. Your symptoms point to a misconfiguration in your nvidia settings , make sure texture filtering quality is set to HIGH PERFORMANCE SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Pedro= Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I currently run my steam ss at 100% in game PD at 1.0. Your symptoms point to a misconfiguration in your nvidia settings , make sure texture filtering quality is set to HIGH PERFORMANCE It Will lower the quality but I will give it a shot. Would you be So kind and raise your steam vr SS to 200 and tell me if there is a FPS difference. 200 % is a common settin for DCS with Gear as ours. Lets experiment a bit ;) Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X | i7 9700K@5.0GHz | Asus TUF OC RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR4@3200MHz | HP Reverb G2 | TrackIR 5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Croswinds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 The texture quality setting is counter intuitive, but essentially it dithers the edges making it less clear when you set it to quality. Moving to 200% shockingly did decrease my performance, GPU frametimes went up from about 14ms to about 18-19ms which what happens when you move from 4.6m pixels to 9m SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 It Will lower the quality but I will give it a shot. Would you be So kind and raise your steam vr SS to 200 and tell me if there is a FPS difference. 200 % is a common settin for DCS with Gear as ours. Lets experiment a bit ;) Yep, I always run at 200%. I tried going back to 100% with this new patch, but I just couldn't leave it at that. I find the visual quality at 200% too much to give up. I still have questions: 1) do we need to have MSAA switched on in graphic settings for the MSAA mask to work (either ED or Kegetys version). I know it sounds like a stupid question, but it's possible the mask process may be doing it's own AA. 2) how does the Kegetys MSAA mask affect the ED option and vice versa. Should we have one of them off? What values are best for both? 3) how are people finding this new patch and the mask option without using the Shaders Mod? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
=Pedro= Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 (edited) happens when you move from 4.6m pixels to 9m Over 9 mln pixels is a native HP Reverb res. Correct me if Im wrong but having steam vr SS set to 100% does not squeaze Reverb to Its max potential. As Imacken said. I just cant get any lower then 200% steam vr SS. This is why the Reverb is way above other headset. Running it set to 100% first time I was really disapointed, compairing it to Oculus Rift S few days earlier. I wish I could set msaa to 2x for less shimmering but Its impossible since ED messed up the framerate with 2.5.6. S! Edited May 21, 2020 by =Pedro= Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X | i7 9700K@5.0GHz | Asus TUF OC RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR4@3200MHz | HP Reverb G2 | TrackIR 5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Croswinds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Over 9 mln pixels is a native HP Reverb res. Correct me if Im wrong but having steam vr SS set to 100% does not squeaze Reverb to Its max potential. As Imacken said. I just cant get any lower then 200% steam vr SS. This is why the Reverb is way above other headset. Running it set to 100% first time I was really disapointed, compairing it to Oculus Rift S few days earlier. I wish I could set msaa to 2x for less shimmering but Its impossible since ED messed up the framerate with 2.5.6. S! 4.6 million per eye, i was quoting per eye , you will go to something like 18m all up at ss 200% SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Nobody got any thoughts on my questions above in #1522? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 i can answer 3) if you turn off either shadows or AA and mirrors its OK, there is a still a significant improvement about 2ms in GPU frametime reduction using Kegety's mod. and if i could get it to run in IC pass mode i likely would I suspect 1 is yes you do have have them turned on i game, but i havent tested it SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imacken Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 i can answer 3) if you turn off either shadows or AA and mirrors its OK, there is a still a significant improvement about 2ms in GPU frametime reduction using Kegety's mod. and if i could get it to run in IC pass mode i likely would I suspect 1 is yes you do have have them turned on i game, but i havent tested it Stuart, Just looked at the settings in your signature. It doesn't look like you are running SteamVR at 100%, more like 125%. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 yes those are historical 2.5.5 , sorry i havent gotten around to updating them yet SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huligan Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 What is it in _HMD.hlsl ? NVG gain control win10 21H2 | i5-4670K 4.5GHz | 16Гб DDR3 | MSI RTX2080ti Ventus OC 11G | РУС vkb Gladiator Pro+РУД vkb Gametrix ECS+Пендали BRD-MS1 | Pico4 VR | | https://vk.com/paraplan_mkp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave317 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Is this mod still working with the latest open beta? If it is what settings should I use for the new VR mask option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitri18 Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Is this mod still working with the latest open beta? If it is what settings should I use for the new VR mask option? Yeah Id like to know this as well. I'm reinstalling DCS with my new Valve Index. I came across the mod when seeing how to fix the perfomance issues in VR but I had open beta installed and figured I couldn't use the mod with the open beta. What version of the mode will work with what DCS versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed-of-heat Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 It works, provided you don’t need to pass the integrity check for online games SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware Intel Corei7-12700KF @ 5.1/5.3p & 3.8e GHz, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Dell S2716DG, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraszus Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 It works,... Even with the newest open beta build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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