whisky.actual Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 without knowing your hardware or settings thats a problematic question, try my settings and see. MSAA will not make things clearer ... it will deliberately blur them ... Core i5-4460 3.2 GHz, 16 gig DDR3, GTX 1070 and I have windows and DCS installed on SSD. VR is an Odyssey + Quite a old rig, planning to upgrade, but I'll need to change most of the PC.
Taz1004 Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) Core i5-4460 3.2 GHz, 16 gig DDR3, GTX 1070 and I have windows and DCS installed on SSD. VR is an Odyssey + Quite a old rig, planning to upgrade, but I'll need to change most of the PC. In _HMD.hlsl, you want all the first section (optimisations) turned on (1). And all second section (improvements) turned off (0) MSAA and Shadows are biggest FPS hog. Turn them off. Set in-game PD to 1 and increase SteamSS gradually to acceptable FPS. Sounds like you are aware your system is below recommended spec for VR so you can't afford to have some of the luxury settings. And if you're planning to upgrade soon, I'd OC the heck out of your CPU. I don't mean be reckless, but carefully push it to its limit. Your GPU may have some OC headroom too. But if you want more advice on your system, make separate thread on Hardware section. Don't want to hijack this thread. Edited October 3, 2020 by Taz1004 Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
whisky.actual Posted October 3, 2020 Posted October 3, 2020 In _HMD.hlsl, you want all the first section (optimisations) turned on (1). And all second section (improvements) turned off (0) MSAA and Shadows are biggest FPS hog. Turn them off. Set in-game PD to 1 and increase SteamSS gradually to acceptable FPS. Sounds like you are aware your system is below recommended spec for VR so you can't afford to have some of the luxury settings. And if you're planning to upgrade soon, I'd OC the heck out of your CPU. I don't mean be reckless, but carefully push it to its limit. Your GPU may have some OC headroom too. But if you want more advice on your system, make separate thread on Hardware section. Don't want to hijack this thread. Unfortunately this in a locked CPU, therefore I can't OC it. I plan to upgrade soon but my concern is that objects outside the cockpit will always be choppy and blurry. I can run the game, I've tried almost all the tricks, but post 2.5.6 nothing is helping anymore. I used to be able to run with 150% Steam SS, but now I can't go over 120%.
Eaglewings Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 Unfortunately this in a locked CPU, therefore I can't OC it. I plan to upgrade soon but my concern is that objects outside the cockpit will always be choppy and blurry. I can run the game, I've tried almost all the tricks, but post 2.5.6 nothing is helping anymore. I used to be able to run with 150% Steam SS, but now I can't go over 120%.O+ here too with almost similar rig setup. Correct on blurry and pixelated image of object outside the cockpit post 2.5.6. This is with or without the shaders mod. Same rig used to do quite well visually in far distance in 2.5.5 What does help for me is setting dcs PD to like 1.2-1.3 and steamvr SS to 120%. Image a sharper and fps is in mid 30s. A hardware upgrade is in line for me too, just waiting for the dust to settle with all the new line of cpu/gpu introduction. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset
whisky.actual Posted October 4, 2020 Posted October 4, 2020 O+ here too with almost similar rig setup. Correct on blurry and pixelated image of object outside the cockpit post 2.5.6. This is with or without the shaders mod. Same rig used to do quite well visually in far distance in 2.5.5 What does help for me is setting dcs PD to like 1.2-1.3 and steamvr SS to 120%. Image a sharper and fps is in mid 30s. A hardware upgrade is in line for me too, just waiting for the dust to settle with all the new line of cpu/gpu introduction. I hear you brother! Got my B550 already, now waiting on those new Ryzen chip to drop!
ohyeah2389 Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) EDIT: I'm dumb. If you are as dumb as I am, and also have this issue, turn ENABLE_SIMPLE_CANOPY off in _HMD.hlsl. I'm sorry if this has been answered already, but when using this mod with the latest version of DCS (I tried speed-of-heat's version too) the gauges in the A-10C II (and maybe other aircraft) have turned a milky white. Also, all baked in reflections are much more visible. Any idea which file is causing this? And yes, I made sure to delete my fxo and metashaders2 folders every time I made a change. Pics for comparison below. Edited October 9, 2020 by ohyeah2389 Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 7, i5 6600K @3.5ghz, GTX 1070, 16GB ram, Windows 10 Home x64 https://pcpartpicker.com/b/JH9J7P Modules: A-10C, FC3, F/A-18C, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, Ka-50, SA342, AJS-37, AV-8BNA, M-2000C, MiG-21, F-14A/B, JF-17, F-16C, Supercarrier Maps: Caucasus, NTTR, Persian Gulf Awaiting: DCS: F-15E
Adam Posted October 9, 2020 Posted October 9, 2020 What does help for me is setting dcs PD to like 1.2-1.3 and steamvr SS to 120%. Image a sharper and fps is in mid 30s. Just curious why you set it in 2 different locations? I was under the impression that these two settings were identical as far as what is done behind the scenes (ie, upping SS to 160 and leaving PD at 0, or increasing PD by a decimal and leaving SS at 0 would be the same as what you're doing above. Or is there something special about mixing the two in that I'm not aware of?
Eaglewings Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 Just curious why you set it in 2 different locations? I was under the impression that these two settings were identical as far as what is done behind the scenes (ie, upping SS to 160 and leaving PD at 0, or increasing PD by a decimal and leaving SS at 0 would be the same as what you're doing above. Or is there something special about mixing the two in that I'm not aware of?Strangely enough, increasing steam SS doesn't seems to do much for me since updating to dcs world 2.5.6, distant object are so washed-out so I use a combination of both to get less pixelated images both on menu screen and in the 3d world. Just what works for me at this time. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset
ibotyson Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 Heyy Guys i hope someone can help me. I get bad stutters in DCS. With every stutter the sound lags too. I noticed that the cpu utilization drops with every stutter. No difference between singleplayer or multiplayer. I tried to lower all settings but no difference in stutters. I disabled hotplug and game dvr. I play only in VR and with the VR preset settings i got 80fps locked for my rift-s with no ASW. My System: Zotac RTX 3080 Ryzen 3700x 32gb RAM 2400MHz. NVMe 1Tb thank you
speed-of-heat Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 I don't really know much about Ryzan CPU's you might want to create a separate thread: https://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=445 to see if someone can help you diagnose these problems. SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
ibotyson Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 Do you think RAM speed makes a difference in DCS?
speed-of-heat Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 this is not the thread for that discussion SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
=Pedro= Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Hi, I Haven't tried this mod for a couple of months. I was wondering what is the gain of using it these days. 3 - 5 FPS? Thanks in advance. Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X | i7 9700K@5.0GHz | Asus TUF OC RTX 4090 | 32GB DDR4@3200MHz | HP Reverb G2 | TrackIR 5 | TM Warthog HOTAS | MFG Croswinds
speed-of-heat Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Not really how it works, normally I see a reduction in gpu frame time of between 2 and 3ms depending on your system and settings ymmv. Typically for me this means keeping a stable 45fps under wider circumstances SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Roger01 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 Great work! This shader runs my DCS at 30-40fps withou fps drop. But .. no mp :( any other shader how work on mp do you have? thx!
speed-of-heat Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 Great work! This shader runs my DCS at 30-40fps withou fps drop. But .. no mp :( any other shader how work on mp do you have? thx! it's difficult to be precise without any detail on your system but, MP is more taxing on the CPU and RAM than single player ... if you haven't got 32MB of RAM then MP is going to hurt SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Roger01 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 it's difficult to be precise without any detail on your system but, MP is more taxing on the CPU and RAM than single player ... if you haven't got 32MB of RAM then MP is going to hurt Thx for the details, I have 32GB of Ram, but I mean this (1st post) shader won't work in MP (won't pass the integrity check). For me, the FPS drop in VR are from the "frog" on the canopy (like the JF-17 in high altitude). With this shader = no shader (et no fog) on the canopy so the fps are stable.
speed-of-heat Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 @Roger01 Check my signature file for an IC pass version SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Roger01 Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 Nice! Thank you! I test that as soon as possible.
Roger01 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 So, I test your IC pass version but the fog on canopy still here. 18~ fps in the cockpit and 40~ fps outside, and 40~ without the canopy : (the FPS meter is too small on screenshots)
speed-of-heat Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 sorry not sure what you are asking ? SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Taz1004 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 sorry not sure what you are asking ? Sounds like he wants to know how to enable simple canopy. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
speed-of-heat Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 Sounds like he wants to know how to enable simple canopy. yeah but if he has taken my IC Pass variant that's enabled by default... go into the file _HMD.hlsl and make sure this is set as below: #define ENABLE_SIMPLE_CANOPY 1 // Simplified canopy glass SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Roger01 Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) #define ENABLE_SIMPLE_CANOPY is already on "1" into the file _HMD.hlsl I have delete fxo and metashaders2 (and the shaders folder before making a repair), past your IC pass variant et launch the game. I launch JF-17, 35-40 fps in canopy at low altitude. If I go up at high altitude (15000+), there's fog on the canopy and got a fps drop (18 fps~) in the cockpit only because there's fog/mist/steam/condense (buée en français, sorry don't know the real translation) on the window of the canopy. I got fps drop because of that. I thing the shader of the autor of this thread (1st post of the 1page), delete the window of the canopy entirely, so no fps drop, but no IC pass... : http://junk.kegetys.fi/DCS%20VR%20Sh....5.6.50321.zip Edited October 21, 2020 by Roger01
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