Terry Dactil Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) I have been using the Warthog throttle slider to set the Harrier's nozzle angle. Adjusting the axis curve to set the 82° hover setting at the weak detent at 50% travel kinda worked, but gave vastly different sensitivity on each side which I did not like. I wanted a tactile indication to make it easy to set the hover nozzle angle. I considered using one of the throttle levers, but thought it would be too difficult to modify the afterburner detent to work on one side only and accurately set the position, so it was back to using the slider. On my theory that any important control in the cockpit should have a big and important lever, I have made (3D printed) an extension lever and adjustable detent to get a nozzle control more like the real thing. The detent is not really a detent. It just slightly increases the resistance to movement and also causes the lever to wriggle slightly outboard just like the real thing. This makes it easy to feel when at the hover position. The side clamp is accurately positioned by a small projection which engages in the aft end of the slot on the Warthog unit. Nothing on the Warthog throttle unit has been changed in any way. This mod just fits over the existing components and can be removed easily. The 'detent' is adjustable and is clamped in position (as is the lever and clamp body) with M5x0.8 grubscrews just because I had some handy. Some tape or a spot of glue would work just as well. *** Update: *** Noticed that the lever hit the aft stop just before reaching full travel of the pot. This could be easily fixed by adjusting the axis trim, but I wanted to avoid that so I have modified the files so the lever now goes full travel. The images have been updated and the modified STL files are here for anyone who wants to make their own. Nozzle lever.zip Edited July 31, 2018 by Terry Dactil Modified to get full travel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 looking good. Currently I use the left throttle but your solution sounds better. i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | DIY Collective | Virpil desk mount | VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 3x TM MFDs | 2x bass shakers pedal plate| SIMple SIMpit chair | WinWing TakeOff panel | PointCTRL v2 | Andre JetSeat | Winwing Hornet UFC | Winwing Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f4l0 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Nice idea. Would you mind to upload your model to Thingiverse thus it gains more visibility? I'll print this later once the temperatures calm down a bit... f4l0 Developer of Simshaker for Aviators Feel the brrrrttt: [Official] SimShaker for Aviators Forums thread at ED forums https://simshaker-for-aviators.github.io/SimShaker-for-Aviators-Releases/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldawg Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Saw this post from a squadron mate. We are currently flying the Harrier exclusively as a squadron. I know myself and a few of my fellow pilots would be interested in this mod. Win 10 Pro - Intel I7 12700k@4.9ghz water cooled - ASUS TUF Z690 -EVGA RTX 3080 12G Hybrid - EVGA 1000W PSU - 32GB 3200 G-Skill XMP- Reverb G2 -Custom mip and side panels - Leo Bodnar BBI32x2, BBI64x4 - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM Cougar MFD's x 3 - TM TPR pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimebug Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Nice, i'm going to give it a try, that's an interesting addon for sure :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Or even better, upload somewhere that 3D printing ignorant people like myself could just order one to be made and shipped, like Shapeways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98abaile Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) Or even better, upload somewhere that 3D printing ignorant people like myself could just order one to be made and shipped, like Shapeways? Is that attitude necessary? Shapeways allows you to upload files yourself without requiring a vendor to do it for you. Unless you are willing to pay $400 mark up price for the part, in which case I and I'm sure many others would be more than happy to upload it for you. :P Edited August 8, 2018 by 98abaile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregP Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Just wanted to post back here that yes, it is indeed quite easy to upload to Shapeways the STL file(s) that OP posted. And now for $25 I've got a matte black plastic Harrier nozzle lever heading my way in about two weeks. Edited September 8, 2018 by GregP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratcatcher Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Hi Terry, Just wanted to say a quick thankyou for this. I read the thread this morning and promptly ordered through an online service the parts to be made. ( Can't the internet be a great place sometimes!!!). Hopefully I will have them delivered sometime in the next week. Do you have any way of excepting payments/donations? As I would like to show my support for those, like you, who help make my hobby so much more enjoyable by creating things like this. Techlabs Chameleon Watercooled Gaming PC - Intel Core i7 6700K @ 4.7GHz : Samsung 950 Pro 256GB SSD, Samsung 500 gig SSD, Seagate 1TB 7200RPM Drive : MSI GeForce GTX 1080 "Founders Edition" 8192MB : 800W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply : 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz : Occulus Rift S : TM Warthog : MFG Crosswind V2 : Win 10 64. PointCTRL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactil Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 Do you have any way of excepting payments/donations? Thanks for the kind thought, but that is not necessary. Like you I have been helped a lot by this forum, and I just want to contribute something in return. Also, it is quite satisfying for me to design something , then make it and find out that it actually works. :smilewink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dscamp Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Thank you so much!. After ordering all three components to be printed through Shapeways, they wrote me back saying that the side clamp was too thin and had a 0% success rate to print. Should I be worried or should I have them printed anyways? This is on versatile plastic. Btw, this would be the first 3d print I ever ordered! Again, thanks so much Terry Dactil! Intel i7-8700k @ 4.8Ghz H100i v2 MSI Z370 Gaming M5 Corsair Dominator DDR4 64GB (4x16GB) 2400MHz EVGA 1080TI FTW3 ADATA XPG SX8200 240GB (Win10) SAMSUNG 850 SSD (DCS & Saved Games Folder) EVGA SuperNOVA 1200 P2, 80+ PLATINUM 1200W Phanteks Enthoo Pro HOTAS Warthog CH Pedals TrackIR 5 w/Delan Clip Fusion Logitech FSP Gametrix Jetseat kw-908/Buttkicker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98abaile Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Thank you so much!. After ordering all three components to be printed through Shapeways, they wrote me back saying that the side clamp was too thin and had a 0% success rate to print. Should I be worried or should I have them printed anyways? This is on versatile plastic. Btw, this would be the first 3d print I ever ordered! Again, thanks so much Terry Dactil! That doesn't sound right, it should be possible to print tiny models, way thinner than this model. I've just uploaded it to shapeways and it didn't seem to have any problems for me. If you're still having no luck, I've edited his model to remove the recessed area on the side; try that.side clamp edited.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlikwin Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Where can I find this on shapeways? New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dscamp Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 That doesn't sound right, it should be possible to print tiny models, way thinner than this model. I've just uploaded it to shapeways and it didn't seem to have any problems for me. If you're still having no luck, I've edited his model to remove the recessed area on the side; try that. Thank you so much! You guys are awesome Intel i7-8700k @ 4.8Ghz H100i v2 MSI Z370 Gaming M5 Corsair Dominator DDR4 64GB (4x16GB) 2400MHz EVGA 1080TI FTW3 ADATA XPG SX8200 240GB (Win10) SAMSUNG 850 SSD (DCS & Saved Games Folder) EVGA SuperNOVA 1200 P2, 80+ PLATINUM 1200W Phanteks Enthoo Pro HOTAS Warthog CH Pedals TrackIR 5 w/Delan Clip Fusion Logitech FSP Gametrix Jetseat kw-908/Buttkicker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dscamp Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 That doesn't sound right, it should be possible to print tiny models, way thinner than this model. I've just uploaded it to shapeways and it didn't seem to have any problems for me. If you're still having no luck, I've edited his model to remove the recessed area on the side; try that. It worked. Thanks again! Intel i7-8700k @ 4.8Ghz H100i v2 MSI Z370 Gaming M5 Corsair Dominator DDR4 64GB (4x16GB) 2400MHz EVGA 1080TI FTW3 ADATA XPG SX8200 240GB (Win10) SAMSUNG 850 SSD (DCS & Saved Games Folder) EVGA SuperNOVA 1200 P2, 80+ PLATINUM 1200W Phanteks Enthoo Pro HOTAS Warthog CH Pedals TrackIR 5 w/Delan Clip Fusion Logitech FSP Gametrix Jetseat kw-908/Buttkicker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydy Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I have been using the Warthog throttle slider to set the Harrier's nozzle angle. *** Update: *** Noticed that the lever hit the aft stop just before reaching full travel of the pot. This could be easily fixed by adjusting the axis trim, but I wanted to avoid that so I have modified the files so the lever now goes full travel. That doesn't sound right, it should be possible to print tiny models, way thinner than this model. I've just uploaded it to shapeways and it didn't seem to have any problems for me. If you're still having no luck, I've edited his model to remove the recessed area on the side; try that. Hi guys, I just would like to thank you two for the files. I tried to get something different from Debolestis, but he didn't have any and I decided to find a local 3D print service here. I paid around 10USD for the three parts, but I loved the lever itself. I am not even going to install the other two. I will use that lever not only for the nozzle lever in the harrier, but also as the collective in all chopters. I just tested and it works fine bringing some more precision for the flight. I will post a picture of it tomorrow. Once again, thank you very much. All the best, Sydy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Sorry for the necro post but I order from Shapeways using the "edited" file for the side clamp and Gray MJF Plastic PA12. Got this message from them: Quote Rejection issue: Thin Walls Rejection description: The highlighted areas in the attached picture are at risk of breaking. The walls in your model are too thin for the current geometry and cannot withstand our manufacturing process without breaking. The design may be more successful if the thin areas are thickened. We encourage you to alter your design to ensure a successful print. Please consider these options: 1. For Gray and Black MJF Plastic PA12, thicken the minimum supported walls to be greater than or equal to 0.4 mm. 2. For Gray and Black MJF Plastic PA12, thicken the minimum unsupported walls to be greater than or equal to 0.5 mm. 3. For Black Smooth MJF Plastic PA12, thicken the minimum supported and unsupported walls to be greater than or equal to 1.5 mm. Any recommendations? And, thanks a lot for these models! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactil Posted December 19, 2020 Author Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) Sorry to see that you have a problem with Shapeways. Perhaps it has something to go with the type of material requested. I printed mine in PLA and it has been working for more than 2 years with no problems. I used Cura to produce the g-code for the printer and it had a default wall thickness of 1.2mm. It looks like they got a decimal place wrong somewhere. Try specifying production in PLA. If you still have problems , PM me and I will see if I can find and modify the old design files for you. Edited December 19, 2020 by Terry Dactil added comment about decimal place error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draken35 Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 Thanks Terry. I forgot about this thread (Holidays & having too much fun flying the harrier) but I received the parts a couple of weeks ago (made with MFJ P12) and so far so good. Thanks again for the models! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk66 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Hi Terry, I'd like to use your neat little add-on for the TMWH throttle but my cockpit setup has my throttle mounted on a Monstertech desk clamp/plate; as a result the clamping height from the top of the throttle box to the bottom of the mounting plate is 60.6 mm instead of the 50 mm I measure for the throttle box itself. As I lack the skills to edit your file for the mounting clamp, could I impose on you to edit your clamp file to make the clamp height 61 mm? Or if it is easy to do, instructions on how? Cheers, Vulture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Hoss Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 When I looked at the screen shots of the set up I realized I'm in the same boat as Kirk66, my throttle is on a Monstertech Table mount. I guess I could shim (Thin washers) the mounting screws for the throttle and mounting plate enough to lift it up and slide in your part. Thanks for the file, I need to call my buddy with the 3D printer and see if he can make it for me or upload it to Shapeways or similar 3D printing site. Sempre Fortis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Dactil Posted December 1, 2021 Author Share Posted December 1, 2021 (edited) Kirk66: I managed to find the old files. These show the distance between the upper and lower faces as 53.2 mm, but I guess the grub screw takes up the difference from your 50mm measurement. Anyway, from your measurements, it looks like yo want an extra 11 mm and that is easily done. Here are the modified files. Note: Fusion360 file is now 3mf format instead of stl. It is much the same but now includes graphics. Includes a gcode file. These are both for the side clamp only as there are no changes to the other bits. Your buddy should be able to print this. Side clamp-mod61.zip ***************************************************************************************** For anyone who knows their way around in Fusion360 wants to try modifying the original designfiles - here they are. Good luck! Side clamp v8.zip Edited December 1, 2021 by Terry Dactil Added more stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk66 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Terry, Thanks! I'll give them a try. Been meaning to give the Harrier a try and now will have to ;^) Kirk66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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