Bankler's CASE 1 Recovery Trainer

[Bankler]

On 6/9/2024 at 6:43 PM, Scal said:

Hi ! Thank you for this training mission !!! I have just an issue, in SP the FA-18 is only configured the first time. After the first trial, when I reenter a new slot, the FA-18 is not configured, I have to set the Tacan, ILS, CRS... In MP it is never configured.

Instead of picking another slot, restart the mission. The auto-setup can only happen once.

[ArielSharon]

How do you contact the carrier with a T-45? It's not giving me any grades because of 'improper comms'... Thanks for doing a great job Bankler!

[Razor18]

I don't know the T-45, so sorry if stupid question, but did you try to tune the radio to the carrier's frequency and call ATC using the comms menu?

[MAXsenna]

I don't know the T-45, so sorry if stupid question, but did you try to tune the radio to the carrier's frequency and call ATC using the comms menu?

It's a community module and doesn't have working radios in the air IIRC.

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[Razor18]

Oh, my bad then...

[dave76]

well, one question ; if i turn from downwind to base abeam the stern of the ship by the numbers, why do i get a too long downwid message? 

sorry cannot post a tarck now......but any suggest is appreciated

[Razor18]

Well, without a track it is a bit difficult to tell. Do you turn by looking at the boat, or by looking at the HSI? At least a screenshot about either one would help a lot.

EDIT: do you happen to have a TacView track maybe?

Edited September 27, 2024 by Razor18

[Takayoshi]

Hi there!

Another question regarding hacking/modifying this phantastic training aid:

Did anyone successfully add slots to the mission and would be willing to share experiences/hints?
I already tried a bit, namely adding four F-14A slots, copying/editing the corresponding triggers and parts in the script as well.

Once I load into one of the new slots I get a welcome message (init seems to work) with a newly generated callsign but the initial/break entry is not triggered.

Any hints would be appreciated!

 

Cheers

 

Yoshi

[markturner1960]

Hi, getting an issue with the cold start F14's, no matter which one you choose, if there are 2 of you, they always spawn right next to each other. Mu buddy and I have both had the same issue whereby partway through the start up, the wings will open ( without us making that happen) and smash into the adjacent jet, causing a fire etc. 

How can stop this? Is it possible to edit where the jets spawn, so they are separated? As I imagine teh wing sweep thing is nothing to do with the actual mission......

[SKYWARRIOR]

Hi, I am am a newbie here but working hard to learn as fast as possible including Carrier landing s.

This is a great program but so far I only have words on a screen but notice I think there were Lua files including speech  in the Guit -Hub package. I am not eloquent with IT enough yet ( although it looks like I will have to be more so ) as to :

1. Do I need this for LSO to talk to me in headphones ?

2. If so do I download the Lua file and exactly where do I put it please?

Thanks for your great program and hopefully an easy answer !

David

[Razor18]

1. No, this has nothing to do with the in game LSO talking. It compares certain parameters of your Case 1 pattern to optimal values, and based on the difference to your parameters gives you evaluation and points using on screen text.

Edited November 7, 2024 by Razor18

[Joch1955]

On 10/2/2024 at 6:41 AM, Takayoshi said:

Hi there!

Another question regarding hacking/modifying this phantastic training aid:

Did anyone successfully add slots to the mission and would be willing to share experiences/hints?
I already tried a bit, namely adding four F-14A slots, copying/editing the corresponding triggers and parts in the script as well.

Once I load into one of the new slots I get a welcome message (init seems to work) with a newly generated callsign but the initial/break entry is not triggered.

Any hints would be appreciated!

 

Cheers

 

Yoshi

Hi, don’t know if you solved your issue, I have been playing around with the mission, did not try adding slots, but just replaced the F14Bs with F14As and it works fine as long as you copy/adapt the same settings, especially the TACAN channel. I also moved the ACs farther south, about 17nm from the CV so you have some time to set everything up and contact the CV by radio.

From what I see, waypoint 1 goes to a trigger area 5 nm south of the carrier and I am guessing this is what triggers the Case 1 script?

I was having trouble with my F14 carrier landings, but this mission is great for practice, Many thanks to Bankler for doing this.

[Takayoshi]

13 hours ago, Joch1955 said:

Hi, don’t know if you solved your issue, I have been playing around with the mission, did not try adding slots, but just replaced the F14Bs with F14As and it works fine as long as you copy/adapt the same settings, especially the TACAN channel. I also moved the ACs farther south, about 17nm from the CV so you have some time to set everything up and contact the CV by radio.

From what I see, waypoint 1 goes to a trigger area 5 nm south of the carrier and I am guessing this is what triggers the Case 1 script?

I was having trouble with my F14 carrier landings, but this mission is great for practice, Many thanks to Bankler for doing this.

Hi Joch,

thanks for the suggestion! I already did exactly that successfully, that's why I was asking about adding more slots to use it as a multiplayer mission for our navy squadrons.

Cheers

Yoshi

[Hecate_Megami]

2018/10/2 PM7点57分，Bankler说：

Now with F-14B Tomcat and Supercarrier support!

What is this, an interactive CASE 1 trainer?

Yes! I made this mission with the intent to make it easier and more fun to practice your skills around the boat. CASE 1 recoveries are one of those things that most sim pilots (that are into somewhat realistic naval flying) want to get proficient in, but it can sometimes be tedious to practice it.

The scoring system has been developed with guidance from Lex (former F/A-18 pilot and US Navy flight instructor).

How does it work?

The mission spawns you 10nm behind the boat (there are also slots for cold start and cat if you’d prefer). As you fly over the trailing ship, the “pass” starts. Approach the carrier from behind and do all the pattern stuff (break, downwind, final turn and a trap/bolter). The mission will track your flying at certain points and give you a score on each point, as well as some real-time feedback. For instance, it tracks if you’re on the right altitude, if you’re on-speed, and how far from the boat you are when abeam.

After a trap (or bolter, or even a wave-off), you’ll get a summary on how well you performed in each section of the pattern, as well as a final score, where 75/75 is maximum. It will also tell you what wire you got.

Practice and track the progress

To restart the pattern, you simply fly back south to the trailing ship. The mission will tell you that you’re welcome back for another pass. In other words, don’t fly straight into the pattern. Instead always perform full CASE 1 recovery breaks and patterns (that’s the whole point of this practice mission).

The mission will also keep a little list containing the score of all your passes of the sortie, so you can see if you’re making progress.

Multiplayer!

Finally, there’s multiplayer support. You can launch the mission with your friends or squadron mates, and the mission will track everyone’s progress separately. Maybe you can even use it to host a CASE 1 recovery competition in your squadron?

Final words

I’m eager to hear your feedback so I can make adjustments and provide updates based on it. There might of course be smaller bugs and such, just let me know!

If this tool helped anyone out, or at least you had a good time with it, I’d LOVE to hear from you!

If you’re not already aware how to perform the CASE 1 recovery, I recommend watching this:

• Jabbers’ excellent video covering the basics:

Many thanks to FlightControl (for Moose), Grimes (for Mist) and Lex and Gregory Brett (for patiently answering all my geek questions), as well as the Master Arms community and everyone who helped out with play testing! Also big thanks to Matt Geders and Funkyfranky!

DOWNLOAD 7.3.0

Pick the version with your favorite boat: Legacy carrier or Supercarrier. There is also a version that supports the T-45C mod.

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Supercarrier / T-45C version:

 

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Hey Bro

After the lastest update, the barometric-height AP for the F/A-18C will be automatically activated. Seems to a new bug. Will it fixed in the future？

I do have a quick workaround，but hope it can be fixed. 

[t1mb0b]

On 11/1/2024 at 9:23 AM, markturner1960 said:

Hi, getting an issue with the cold start F14's, no matter which one you choose, if there are 2 of you, they always spawn right next to each other. Mu buddy and I have both had the same issue whereby partway through the start up, the wings will open ( without us making that happen) and smash into the adjacent jet, causing a fire etc. 

How can stop this? Is it possible to edit where the jets spawn, so they are separated? As I imagine teh wing sweep thing is nothing to do with the actual mission......

one of you could spawn, spread your wings and move out the way, then your buddy can spawn? 

[reds05]

Hallo pilots! ,just simple question: How install it  

Edited February 4 by reds05

[Scotch75]

Hallo pilots! ,just simple question: How install it  

Hey mate, it is just a normal mission. Place it in your ..../"User name"/Saved Games/DCS/Missions folder. Then in DCS, it will show when selecting Missions and My Missions.
Cheers!


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[Bankler]

On 12/29/2024 at 5:37 AM, Hecate_Megami said:

Hey Bro

After the lastest update, the barometric-height AP for the F/A-18C will be automatically activated. Seems to a new bug. Will it fixed in the future？

I do have a quick workaround，but hope it can be fixed. 

Thanks for the heads up. I will look into it! Probably ED changed some button IDs. Did you also noticed any button now NOT getting pressed?

[Mav87th]

Hey Bankler

 

Awesome mission to learn the Hornet with - hats off to your coding and mission creation skills.

Would you be ok with me unpacking the mission file and try to add 4 Hot Start and 4 Cold Start Hornets to the selection mass?

If i do is there something in the triggers or naming conventions i need to be aware off?

 

Thanks for a superb training "mission"

[Weed89]

love the VIDEO..BUT,  it was not explained HOW/WHERE...do i find the COURSE of the boat??  where do i find that info from the cockpit ??

 Thanks.

[Hecate_Megami]

2025/2/11 PM9点47分，Bankler说：

Thanks for the heads up. I will look into it! Probably ED changed some button IDs. Did you also noticed any button now NOT getting pressed?

as far as I know, the quick workaround is to delete the cockpit action for cockpit device 25 with command 3013
im not sure what's that for previously.

[Bankler]

On 2/12/2025 at 10:55 AM, Mav87th said:

Hey Bankler

 

Awesome mission to learn the Hornet with - hats off to your coding and mission creation skills.

Would you be ok with me unpacking the mission file and try to add 4 Hot Start and 4 Cold Start Hornets to the selection mass?

If i do is there something in the triggers or naming conventions i need to be aware off?

 

Thanks for a superb training "mission"

Yes, you are free to make a custom version and release it, as long as you leave the briefing text in there (but you can also add some text explaining what you have done).

On 2/15/2025 at 10:00 PM, Weed89 said:

love the VIDEO..BUT,  it was not explained HOW/WHERE...do i find the COURSE of the boat??  where do i find that info from the cockpit ??

 Thanks.

No, you can't see that from the cockpit. Normally you get that info from Marshal as you check in. In DCS, the easiest "cheat" way is to press alt-f9 to see the LSO view, and look for what it says next to SH (ship's heading).

On 2/19/2025 at 4:07 PM, Hecate_Megami said:

as far as I know, the quick workaround is to delete the cockpit action for cockpit device 25 with command 3013
im not sure what's that for previously.

Thanks for the pointer!

[Mav87th]

Thanks Bankler - Kola variant coming up soon then...

 

So far i have moved the units to Kola. Adjusted all waypoints. replaced the airborne S-3 Viking tanker and E-2 Hawkeye AWACS with units launching at mission start (Moose recovery tanker and awacs scripting used for them). Added two cold starting Hornets and added a few statics on the carrier. Added a C2 for spare parts and mail.

[Mav87th]

Bankler's famous Trap Training mission moved to Kola after permission from Bankler.

There we go. Approved and active in User Files

Bankler's CASE 1 Recovery Trainer - Kola Peninsula version

 

I have edited some of the surrounding parts of the mission and added a few things.

 

- Statics and AI activity on the carrier from mission start

- Human airborne jets moved to 30nm to give a good time to set up the brake

- Carrier Group consistency changed to mimic CVW-8 in 2006 (https://www.seaforces.org/usnair/CVW/Carrier-Air-Wing-8.htm)

- units used from other mods (FRENCHPACK, desdemicabina-simulations Álvaro de Bazán, Military Aircraft Mod, EA_6B, A-4E-C, T-45)

- I opted to add the mods as dependencies as they are all stunning work and ad a bit of atmosphere and realism to the mission.

- New scripting to give updated BRC course from the carriers magnetic heading. Can be called via menu on demand.

- Added/altered Recovery Tanker, AWACS and Caps via moose scripting

 

if you experience any problems with the mission be sure to tell me and not bother Bankler about it 

 

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Edited March 10 by Mav87th

[Bankler]

I finally got some time to look at the issues with the RALT being engaged during the cockpit auto-setup. It turns out that some new feature sets the HSI in a certain mode for around 8 seconds when you start airborne and the INS is set to IFA. This removes the TIMEUFC and replaces it with a SEA button, until it's done with... whatever it's doing. Hence, the auto setup failed to press TIMEUFC, leaving the UFC in the AP menu instead of going to the TIME menu to set LTOD. Meaning RALT was pressed instead of LTOD. The solution was to delay that button until the INS thing is done.

This is a temporary beta version. I'd be super happy if you can test it carefully, and let me know if anything else seems off. If everything seems okay, a proper release will soon replace 7.3.0 on the first page. Thanks for the patience, everybody.

Yours

Bankler

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