Silvern Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Check out the newsletter. AGM-65E and AGM-65F might be coming out this month! https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3653951&postcount=163 Now that is great news! :)
backspace340 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 I am a bit confused how we're getting Mavs before GBUs (especially given one is a laser Mav) - you'dve thought it'd be easier to put GBUs on, especially if you've already sorted out a way to change the laser code.
Buckeye Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 I am a bit confused how we're getting Mavs before GBUs (especially given one is a laser Mav) - you'dve thought it'd be easier to put GBUs on, especially if you've already sorted out a way to change the laser code. Laser Mavs > GBUs anyway (easy mode fire and run with a JTAC), so I can forgive ED for this :lol: It is unfortunate though that it will limit the amount you can carry for the time being (I believe the Hornet can carry more GBUs than AGMs?) Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
backspace340 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Laser Mavs > GBUs anyway (easy mode fire and run with a JTAC), so I can forgive ED for this :lol: It is unfortunate though that it will limit the amount you can carry for the time being (I believe the Hornet can carry more GBUs than AGMs?) Yep should be able to carry as many GBUs as the dumb bombs (so 5 big ones or 10 medium ones) but only four Mavericks. There was a bit of back and forth in an old armament thread over whether the GBUs (laser versions) could be double racked and they seem to have settled on yes - but JDAMs will definitely only be single racked (so five total assuming the centre station can be used).
Banzaiib Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 LOL... "might be coming out this month" 2 weeks, everything happens in 2 weeks... or 2 weeks from that...
Hog_No32 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 LOL... "might be coming out this month" 2 weeks, everything happens in 2 weeks... or 2 weeks from that... The wording in the newsletter is a bit different and - unless unforeseen things come in its way which always can happen - it gives me sufficient confidence that we indeed are going to get the mentioned items by the end of this month. I recognize everybody has different priorities and opinions on what is most desired but I am very happy that we ground pounders will get a first guided weapon (even with a bit of a standoff capability)! (add HARMs,GBUs, ATFLIR and A/G radar and I‘d consider it feature complete... for me at least) ;)
Banzaiib Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Your excitement is understood. I agree and am super stoked about getting some guided weapons on the f-18. It's going to happen, and it's going to be awesome!!! When? I don't know, and neither do they. I'm a bit tired of being disappointed by patch after patch after patch.
Mr_sukebe Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 I am a bit confused how we're getting Mavs before GBUs (especially given one is a laser Mav) - you'dve thought it'd be easier to put GBUs on, especially if you've already sorted out a way to change the laser code. My guess is: - The Mavs can use the same kind of MFD display that we get in the A10A when using 65Ds. - The GBUs will need the dedicated targetting pod, which they've said isn't available yet 7800x3d, 5080, 64GB, PCIE5 SSD - Oculus Pro - Moza (AB9), Virpil (Alpha, CM3, CM1 and CM2), WW (TOP and CP), TM (MFDs, Pendular Rudder), Tek Creations (F18 panel), Total Controls (Apache MFD), Jetseat
backspace340 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 My guess is: - The Mavs can use the same kind of MFD display that we get in the A10A when using 65Ds. - The GBUs will need the dedicated targetting pod, which they've said isn't available yet GBUs don't need a dedicated TGP - you can drop them from the Mirage or F-5 for example and neither of those have one. It just uses a buddy lase. You don't even need a LST - just aim at the coordinates and drop and the bomb tracks the laser.
Banzaiib Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 GBUs don't need a dedicated TGP - you can drop them from the Mirage or F-5 for example and neither of those have one. It just uses a buddy lase. You don't even need a LST - just aim at the coordinates and drop and the bomb tracks the laser. But you do need to be able to program them in the stores pages, which requires some additional coding work on the part of ED.
Buckeye Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Your excitement is understood. I agree and am super stoked about getting some guided weapons on the f-18. It's going to happen, and it's going to be awesome!!! When? I don't know, and neither do they. I'm a bit tired of being disappointed by patch after patch after patch. When have they missed on anything that been specifically quoted as being delivered by X date with the Hornet? By my count, they've delivered on most of it not all of the things they've specifically called out with a specific timing. Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
Banzaiib Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 When have they missed on anything that been specifically quoted as being delivered by X date with the Hornet? By my count, they've delivered on most of it not all of the things they've specifically called out with a specific timing. What have they delivered, in terms of actual combat functionality? It's been 4.5 months since EA release... and you may be happy with the progress, but I'm not.... but, hey, at least the drag on the training pod was fixed last patch.
Coxy_99 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Or just dont buy EA modules? Thats the short answer, And clearly states so on the ED store page?
Banzaiib Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Or just dont buy EA modules? Thats the short answer, And clearly states so on the ED store page? LOL. You missed the point entirely, but I get that it's an EA and development takes time. I'm also allowed to feel disappointed in the rate of their development.
FSKRipper Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) Maybe you have no real experience with EA but this is a modern fighter with complex weapon systems and developing this stuff takes time, years to say it clearly. The other way would be not to have a flying plane with at least "dumb" munitions at all and wait another year. Maybe a solution for you, but not for me. Since I'm going straight for my 40th birthday I prefer learning step by step instead of a 700 pages manual hammer like the A-10C when I was younger :smilewink: Edit: If I remember correctly, Heatblur took 4 years to get their F-14 from an idea to Early Access... Edited October 12, 2018 by FSKRipper i9 9900K @ 5,0GHz | 1080GTX | 32GB RAM | 256GB, 512GB & 1TB Samsung SSDs | TIR5 w/ Track Clip | Virpil T-50 Stick with extension + Warthog Throttle | MFG Crosswind pedals | Gametrix 908 Jetseat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
umkhunto Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Hope they fix the bloody laser in DCS itself, too.
Mule Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 LOL. You missed the point entirely, but I get that it's an EA and development takes time. I'm also allowed to feel disappointed in the rate of their development. Indeed, you are entitled to act like a baby but this doesn't change any of the outcome. :thumbup: Fighter Pilot Podcast.
raelias Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 Edit: If I remember correctly, Heatblur took 4 years to get their F-14 from an idea to Early Access... Hornet been in development for 5 years acording to wags Win10 64, MSI Krait Gaming Z370, I7 8700K, Geforce 1080Ti FTW3 ,32 GB Ram, Samsung 980 EVO SSD Modules: Combind Arms, A-10C, F-86F, F/A-18, F-16, Flaming Cliffs, KA-50, L-39, P-51, UH-1, Christen Eagle II, Persian Gulf
backspace340 Posted October 12, 2018 Posted October 12, 2018 But you do need to be able to program them in the stores pages, which requires some additional coding work on the part of ED. Yep but for the Mavs you need at least two whole new DDI screens (one for the laser seeker, one for the IR seeker) - and you still need a way to change the laser code like you would on GBUs. Obviously I've got no idea on exactly what's involved but just seems like Mavs would be a much more complex job and we've had GBUs mentioned as on the way for 3 months or so now. Just a bit puzzling.
Buckeye Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 Maybe they can borrow Heratblurs Pod LOL Heratblur are legends. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
ebabil Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 this is interesting . we have never seen agm 65's on mini update thread or video demonstration on youtube. although this, we are going to get mavericks within 2 weeks FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
Lithion Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 Yep but for the Mavs you need at least two whole new DDI screens (one for the laser seeker, one for the IR seeker) - and you still need a way to change the laser code like you would on GBUs. Obviously I've got no idea on exactly what's involved but just seems like Mavs would be a much more complex job and we've had GBUs mentioned as on the way for 3 months or so now. Just a bit puzzling. It's really not puzzeling at all, if you check out the voting thread which weapons people want, ATFLIR/HARM both have 400+ votes while GBU's have 115-ish votes. It's not a matter of 'this requires very little effort so they should add it first' because a project of this size has about a billion of 'little things they could add first'. It's about prioritising and they've actually made the effort of asking the community, this is the result. T.16000m HOTAS + Pedals || TrackIR5 || Win10 64bit || 120+500GB SSD, 1TB HDD || i5 4440 @3.3GHz || 16GB RAM @ 1600MHz || GTX1070 G1 || FCIII, L39ZA, AJS-37, Normandy '44, Persian Gulf, Channel F/A-18C, Bf-109 K-4, WW2 Asset Pack, CA, P-47, F-16
Silvern Posted October 13, 2018 Author Posted October 13, 2018 this is interesting . we have never seen agm 65's on mini update thread or video demonstration on youtube. although this, we are going to get mavericks within 2 weeks Maybe if we're nice, Mr.Wags will post a mini-update this weekend, showing off the Mavericks and JHMCS? :music_whistling:
Nero.ger Posted October 13, 2018 Posted October 13, 2018 this is interesting . we have never seen agm 65's on mini update thread or video demonstration on youtube. although this, we are going to get mavericks within 2 weeks maybe he realizes his time is better spend code/fixing bugs than making a video (which takes time most professional YTers will tell you) 'controlling' the Ka50 feels like a discussion with the Autopilot and trim system about the flight direction.
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