HP's Reverb VR Pro Headset

[sze5003]

My SteamVR (latest updates) video dialog shows the Reverb but I am still at a recommended 150% with a resolution of around 21xx x 21xx with a 2080Ti. Intrigued that your resolution is so high at 106?

I believe the new wmr update that fixed the issues with 1903 also did soemthing to this resolution slider in steamvr, as I remember he mentioned it automatically recommended that percentage after the update. You can still manually set it yourself too.

[Baldrick33]

I believe the new wmr update that fixed the issues with 1903 also did soemthing to this resolution slider in steamvr, as I remember he mentioned it automatically recommended that percentage after the update. You can still manually set it yourself too.

Yes I can but my query was why mine shows 21XX x 21XX at 184% whereas the image posted showed 25XX x 25XX at just 106% ? Edited July 22, 2019 by Baldrick33
Realised it was 184% not 150

[Baldrick33]

Here are my settings. recommended 150% set to 184% to get closer to native resolution. Not sure if I am missing something. This is with an 8600K @ 5GHz and 2080Ti:

[Secoda]

That is how mine was before all of the latest updates and 1903 fix.

 

Here are my settings. recommended 150% set to 184% to get closer to native resolution. Not sure if I am missing something. This is with an 8600K @ 5GHz and 2080Ti:

[Secoda]

I posted them all prior a couple of times before in this thread plus everyone's setup/configuration is different. :cry:

 

That is my current SteamVR resolution setting just re-posted there. 106%.

 

Just remember there are settings in:

 

WMR

SteamVR

NVIDIA (depending on your card)

DCS

 

Secoda, mind to share your game and SteamVR settings and the results you get?

Edited July 22, 2019 by Secoda

[Baldrick33]

I posted them all prior a couple of times. :cry:

Curious, everywhere I have seen says around 180 something to get close to 2160x2160 per eye.

 

 

Just intrigued why yours is different!

[Secoda]

Pre and post WMR and SteamVR updates changes to SteamVR resolution setting and from Pro to Standard headset.

 

A bit out of date

SteamVR/Frame Timing

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamVR/Frame_Timing

 

Pre 1903 fix and latest SteamVR updates

 

Post 1903 fix and latest SteamVR updates

Edited July 23, 2019 by Secoda

[eaglecash867]

I pulled the trigger and went to version 1903, did the WMR fix update, and have the latest and greatest SteamVR installed. My SteamVR settings page still reads like your first screenshot, Secoda. It must be your newer, consumer version of the Reverb that is reporting differently to SteamVR. Its all good though, because I see no difference between 100% SS and 180%, except for my performance being MUCH worse at 180%. I just keep mine set at 100% now.

 

I know I'm repeating some things, but that's for the benefit of newcomers to the thread who are looking to tweak their Reverbs. :)

[jojo]

I pulled the trigger and went to version 1903, did the WMR fix update, and have the latest and greatest SteamVR installed. My SteamVR settings page still reads like your first screenshot, Secoda. It must be your newer, consumer version of the Reverb that is reporting differently to SteamVR. Its all good though, because I see no difference between 100% SS and 180%, except for my performance being MUCH worse at 180%. I just keep mine set at 100% now.

 

I know I'm repeating some things, but that's for the benefit of newcomers to the thread who are looking to tweak their Reverbs. :)

 

So super sampling doesn't really pay with such a resolution ?

[Baldrick33]

I pulled the trigger and went to version 1903, did the WMR fix update, and have the latest and greatest SteamVR installed. My SteamVR settings page still reads like your first screenshot, Secoda. It must be your newer, consumer version of the Reverb that is reporting differently to SteamVR.

Ah! Makes sense as the device name now has a 0 at the end of it compared to his first one and mine.

[boedha68]

News on the front. Hp e-mailed me today. The swap for my reverb for a new one is delayed to half August. I found i must share this to us all.

[eaglecash867]

So super sampling doesn't really pay with such a resolution ?

 

It doesn't seem so in this case. Either my eyes are incapable of seeing the difference, or the maximum DCS VR resolution is below what the Reverb can produce.

[jojo]

It doesn't seem so in this case. Either my eyes are incapable of seeing the difference, or the maximum DCS VR resolution is below what the Reverb can produce.

 

Did you try to adjust pixel density in DCS to confirm ?

I saw reports of people pushing Steam VR SS way over native Reverb resolution on Pimax 5K+, but I can’t say if it’s really useful.

[eaglecash867]

Did you try to adjust pixel density in DCS to confirm ?

I saw reports of people pushing Steam VR SS way over native Reverb resolution on Pimax 5K+, but I can’t say if it’s really useful.

 

I've tried both ways and there is no noticeable improvement in clarity.

[jojo]

I've tried both ways and there is no noticeable improvement in clarity.

 

 

Thanks for the information :thumbup:

[Secoda]

Yes - they have different labels. So maybe the consumer version was coded for SteamVR but not the Pro version. They should behave the same way.

 

HP Reverb VR Headset VR1000-2xxx0 (Standard) appears correct

HP Reverb VR Headset VR1000-2xxx (Professional)

 

Bug alert. :detective_2: It could be both work fine but the numbers displayed are incorrect. I would post this on SteamVR if I had the authority.

 

I pulled the trigger and went to version 1903, did the WMR fix update, and have the latest and greatest SteamVR installed. My SteamVR settings page still reads like your first screenshot, Secoda. It must be your newer, consumer version of the Reverb that is reporting differently to SteamVR. Its all good though, because I see no difference between 100% SS and 180%, except for my performance being MUCH worse at 180%. I just keep mine set at 100% now.

 

I know I'm repeating some things, but that's for the benefit of newcomers to the thread who are looking to tweak their Reverbs. :)

Edited July 23, 2019 by Secoda

[Goa]

News on the front. Hp e-mailed me today. The swap for my reverb for a new one is delayed to half August. I found i must share this to us all.

 

 

well in most of the cases HP offered a full refund as no replacement date was available, in your case you will receive a new unit by half august which is indeed good news imho.

 

 

Pls keep us posted :thumbup::thumbup:

[Shortcut]

I just received a email from Shopblt.com that they will be receiving the Reverb Pro on 8/1/19 I'm pretty low on the list so I'm hoping to receive it soon after that.

[Secoda]

Remember that the native resolution is always being sent to the VR headset. 2160 x 2160 (or close to it) for the Reverb. Whatever manipulation is done to the frame involving super-sampling, PD in DCS, sub-pixels, or removing artifacts, etc. isn't changing the ultimate resolution (it is eventually down-sampled back to the native resolution and uses a lot of resources to do these processes) even though the images may look better/cleaner. What I have seen by comparing the lower resolution headsets is that nothing makes up for a higher native resolution. That is why the Pimax 8K X is of some interest. I am sure the other manufacturers will raise the resolution as well sooner than later. The Reverb is already forcing the issue despite it's new product release issues.

 

Did you try to adjust pixel density in DCS to confirm ?

I saw reports of people pushing Steam VR SS way over native Reverb resolution on Pimax 5K+, but I can’t say if it’s really useful.

Edited July 23, 2019 by Secoda

[jojo]

Remember that the native resolution is always being sent to the VR headset. 2160 x 2160 (or close to it) for the Reverb. Whatever manipulation is done to the frame involving super-sampling, PD in DCS, sub-pixels, or removing artifacts, etc. isn't changing the ultimate resolution (it is eventually down-sampled back to the native resolution and uses a lot of resources to do these processes) even though the images may look better/cleaner. What I have seen by comparing the lower resolution headsets is that nothing makes up for a higher native resolution. That is why the Pimax 8K X is of some interest. I am sure the other manufacturers will raise the resolution as well sooner than later. The Reverb is already forcing the issue despite it's new product release issues.

 

Yes thanks, I'm well aware of that.

This is why I'm interested into the Reverb. I'm looking for a good enough resolution where I need minimal to no super sample.

Because super sampling is killing performance, and even at SS 2.0 CV1 isn't good enough for me.

 

But if the Reverb on native resolution put the same load on my computer than the CV1 at 2.0, then there is hope for me.

If there is need to super sample the Reverb to get clear picture, then I will need an upgrade :(

 

(I7 7700k, MSI GTX 1080Ti, 32Go RAM 2400).

 

The other thing is I leave in French overseas department with specific taxation and expensive delivery rates.

So buying to try and return isn't a cost effective solution for me.

Neither is malfunction.

 

I just pulled the trigger on Rift S to enjoy the upgrade at minimal cost and risk. I'll try to assess the market again around December and maybe swap for Reverb or Ojo (if it's out).

I hope that by then the hardware issues will have been ironed out and software well optimized.

 

Thanks to everyone helping me to assess the requirements and performances of that kind of headset. :thumbup:

Edited July 25, 2019 by jojo

[USA_Recon]

When people post what their SS is, I'm always curious along with that what the PD is.

 

ie. I've gone back and forth, and in order to not 'double up' - I found it looked best (and performed best) when I just put PD to 1.0 and used the slider. I also found MSAA at 2x helped.

 

That is all with the OG O, so we will see what Reverb is like

[Secoda]

Same for me.

 

DCS PD 1.0 (any higher is a performance killer)

SteamVR video resolution about 104%-108% recommended (Standard Reverb - Pro may be different) (little gained by raising it more and big performance hit)

DCS MSAA 2X (any higher is a performance killer)

Motion Reprojection is on all of the time

Windows WMR display Visuals set to Very High (beta)

 

Keep my hardware in mind and everything is overclocked - the RTX2080 a lot (pretty close to a plain Ti).

 

 

When people post what their SS is, I'm always curious along with that what the PD is.

 

ie. I've gone back and forth, and in order to not 'double up' - I found it looked best (and performed best) when I just put PD to 1.0 and used the slider. I also found MSAA at 2x helped.

 

That is all with the OG O, so we will see what Reverb is like

Edited July 23, 2019 by Secoda

[USA_Recon]

I'm running OC 9700k at 5 and then a 1080ti card.

 

So this VR is amazingly good. I like, refueling in F15 I could barely make out the refuel lights, now they are very clear.

 

I have the cable ties in, hope this works out...

[Secoda]

I have Motion Reprojection on all of the time now. It makes it smooth most of the time and helps near the ground. They have cleaned up a lot of the artifacts it used to produce.

[hansangb]

I'm running OC 9700k at 5 and then a 1080ti card.

 

So this VR is amazingly good. I like, refueling in F15 I could barely make out the refuel lights, now they are very clear.

 

I have the cable ties in, hope this works out...

 

 

Good luck!