F/A-18 HOTAS INCLUDE FULL THROTTLE/JOYSTICK RELEASE(UPDATE 2019.3.21)

[Guram]

Looks like Thrustmaster will lose a lot of customers if this product comes out before TMs.

[Guram]

Could RL F-18 pilots comment on dimensions of that grip, to me it looks somewhat bigger than RL grip, don't you think?

[Greekbull]

Dear Greek

The throttle is as large as the real one to keep the performance as real one. So must use a desk mount.

But the joystick is possible on desk.

 

Hmm that would be really disappointing if only a desk mount. I have a full simpit and would much prefer to bolt the stick to the flooring and to put the throttle in a full side panel. Many of the guys I fly with have dedicated Sim pits as well. Also with a floor mount if possible will there be an extension to get to correct height? Is this not possible?

Edited March 22, 2019 by Greekbull

[Guram]

so what will be interface, is it USB?

[Gruman]

Awesome.

From the picture it seems easy to implement in a simpit. Enough holes to screw it down. I just hope the deskmount is a separate product so we dont have to pay for that if we don't need it.

If you could release dimensions for mounting the stick, that would be awesome...

 

What kind of slew (TDC) control is used? Force Sense or a Thumbstick style? Including a TDC Down function? What manufacturer were picked for the switches?

 

Cant wait. Deciding factor will be the price. Looking forward for more updates.

Edited March 22, 2019 by Gruman
Throttle Dimension are already available :)

[StandingCow]

Hmm that would be really disappointing if only a desk mount. I have a full simpit and would much prefer to bolt the stick to the flooring and to put the throttle in a full side panel. Many of the guys I fly with have dedicated Sim pits as well. Also with a floor mount if possible will there be an extension to get to correct height? Is this not possible?

 

 

I am sure you guys could easily make up a mount... he may be just talking about not sitting it on a desk or something. It would probably slide all around without being attached to something.

[WINWING]

Looks like Thrustmaster will lose a lot of customers if this product comes out before TMs.

 

We will update or release something new every year, never sleep for 8years

[WINWING]

Could RL F-18 pilots comment on dimensions of that grip, to me it looks somewhat bigger than RL grip, don't you think?

 

Dear Guram

We copy by mm, not make it bigger or smaller. Maybe my photo is out of shape.

Best

[WINWING]

Hmm that would be really disappointing if only a desk mount. I have a full simpit and would much prefer to bolt the stick to the flooring and to put the throttle in a full side panel. Many of the guys I fly with have dedicated Sim pits as well. Also with a floor mount if possible will there be an extension to get to correct height? Is this not possible?

 

My dear friends

Nothing is impossible. I just confirm the skeleton is suitable for different amount.

More info come later.

Kind

[WINWING]

so what will be interface, is it USB?

 

USB to PC

And aero can bus connect with other panel/kits,which mean you just need one USB to PC no matter how many devices you have.

[WINWING]

Awesome.

From the picture it seems easy to implement in a simpit. Enough holes to screw it down. I just hope the deskmount is a separate product so we dont have to pay for that if we don't need it.

If you could release dimensions for mounting the stick, that would be awesome...

 

What kind of slew (TDC) control is used? Force Sense or a Thumbstick style? Including a TDC Down function? What manufacturer were picked for the switches?

 

Cant wait. Deciding factor will be the price. Looking forward for more updates.

 

Yes of course we will release dimensions after launch. The deskmout is a optional part.

 

Oh yes, I forget the most important: 16bit hall denser of course! Please waiting for our performance test video!

Best and thanks.

[WINWING]

I am sure you guys could easily make up a mount... he may be just talking about not sitting it on a desk or something. It would probably slide all around without being attached to something.

 

Yes! Correct!

[Hamilton]

Awesome !

[vishege]

As a machinist, my guess for the price is $1.500-$3.000 for hotas setup.

[hubson]

The problem is, it has to be much below this in order to reach wider consumer base.. It is a new product, we know nothing about it yet.

Higher price tag could be justified, of course, let's see first review.. I have the filling though that that it is not the best time for the high-high end hotas when vr is so money demanding.

As a machinist, my guess for the price is $1.500-$3.000 for hotas setup.

Edited March 22, 2019 by hubson

[rrohde]

CNC is slow and expensive, so maybe $800 per each device is the 'low price' they are shooting for, with potential customer buy-in from x-amount of people?

[hubson]

That sounds reasonable. Obviously even the seller doesn't know what the target is, so it could go either way.. I really hope there is in depth thinking involved into this apart from promisses..

[Mr_Burns]

Get the design right as in design to manufacture and get the Chinese to manufacture it. God bless our Chinese brethren foe low cost off shore manufacture and cheap electronics.

[vishege]

CNC is slow and expensive, so maybe $800 per each device is the 'low price' they are shooting for, with potential customer buy-in from x-amount of people?

 

 

I was thinking 1.500$ it it's cast alloy, like the TM warthog. To cnc this on a 5-axis mill, you're talking hours in the machine, per unit. If not days.

 

 

If they could tell us how they plan to make them we could adjust our expectations. But seeing as plastic grips and throttles from the likes of Virpil and VKB are about 1.000$ for the set, you can expect a minimum of 2X for a metal product.

[Harlikwin]

As a machinist, my guess for the price is $1.500-$3.000 for hotas setup.

 

My guess is MIM not cnc.

[vishege]

My guess is MIM not cnc.

 

 

Mine too. I know how much it costs to make metal injection molds, and here, for a 3 piece joystick and 6 piece throttle, you're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars in setup fees before you see a single unit.

 

 

This looks great but I don't think anyone on this forum is expecting a 2.000$ price and they really should be.

 

 

No mistery behind it really, a set of plastic high end hotas is around 1.000$, there is absolutely no way a full-metal one can be less than 1.5X to 2X that.

[WINWING]

As a machinist, my guess for the price is $1.500-$3.000 for hotas setup.

 

 

The problem is, it has to be much below this in order to reach wider consumer base.. It is a new product, we know nothing about it yet.

Higher price tag could be justified, of course, let's see first review.. I have the filling though that that it is not the best time for the high-high end hotas when vr is so money demanding.

 

CNC is slow and expensive, so maybe $800 per each device is the 'low price' they are shooting for, with potential customer buy-in from x-amount of people?

 

Get the design right as in design to manufacture and get the Chinese to manufacture it. God bless our Chinese brethren foe low cost off shore manufacture and cheap electronics.

 

Get the design right as in design to manufacture and get the Chinese to manufacture it. God bless our Chinese brethren foe low cost off shore manufacture and cheap electronics.

 

I was thinking 1.500$ it it's cast alloy, like the TM warthog. To cnc this on a 5-axis mill, you're talking hours in the machine, per unit. If not days.

 

 

If they could tell us how they plan to make them we could adjust our expectations. But seeing as plastic grips and throttles from the likes of Virpil and VKB are about 1.000$ for the set, you can expect a minimum of 2X for a metal product.

 

My guess is MIM not cnc.

 

Mine too. I know how much it costs to make metal injection molds, and here, for a 3 piece joystick and 6 piece throttle, you're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars in setup fees before you see a single unit.

 

 

This looks great but I don't think anyone on this forum is expecting a 2.000$ price and they really should be.

 

 

No mistery behind it really, a set of plastic high end hotas is around 1.000$, there is absolutely no way a full-metal one can be less than 1.5X to 2X that.

 

 

 

Dear for you all,

I must say 2 point:

1. We manufacture 6 large casting moulds and many injection moulds for this project. So let's not talking about the CNC repair for sample any more.

2.Also there still lot of CNC made part in this case, someone of you are right ,we are "made in China", I said in my last post, we are very near the factory where manufacture iphone/ipad.

3.I've hear lot of price, from $1000-2500, all are very crazy!!! The final price still in consider, but I'm very sure must under $1000(Throttle+joystick only), unless the exchange change is too big. Hubson is right! So please let me hear more about your suggestion ,thanks for you all.

Best.

Edited March 23, 2019 by WINWING

[WINWING]

Awesome !

 

Thank you Hamilton.

[StandingCow]

Shame about not being able to buy the throttle or joystick separately...

 

Any chance we could see the internals/wiring? I mean they look great on the outside but will they last for many years? There is an issue (especially with throttles) of wires breaking).

[Gladman]

Under a Grand. Dam. I'm in.

 

I'd love to see the layout of buttons you'll include on the throttle base.