JDAM instructions

[Chalksta]

try converting the MGRS coordinate of the target from the mission editor into this free converter web page:

 

http://www.legallandconverter.com/p50.html

 

and see if u get the same DD MM SS.SS values

[RHINO_WSO]

Like I said the JDAM QTY functionality is highly dependent on the MC software set you are basing the sim on. The early version of the Hornet software did not allow for multiple JDAMs to be dropped simultaneously on separate targets. The newer software set found on the Hornets that just had their last flights had upgraded JDAM capabilities similar to the Super Hornet.

[Rainmaker]

But what about the "loading coordinates into a jdam" thing? Have you asked that as well?

 

Cycling through the different PPs do not change the station in DCS. You can drop any bomb in any PP. If you switch programs as stated, nothing happens.

 

Im very confused with the videos from wags and the actual simulation. I dont know what to expect or look for.

 

 

Thanks!

 

You don’t change PP to change stations, it’s the other way around. You select the stations to select the desired PP, which it should retain the selelected PP that you previosly selected for it, but it currently doesn’t. 1 + 1 doesn’t equal 2 the way things are currently modeled in the sim.

[Eagle7907]

try converting the MGRS coordinate of the target from the mission editor into this free converter web page:

 

http://www.legallandconverter.com/p50.html

 

and see if u get the same DD MM SS.SS values

 

 

 

I’ll try that and see. I also noticed the in mission map F10 doesn’t have the same coordinate resolution as the ME map. Both provide the same format. I think that’s my problem. Sounds like I have to stick with providing the coordinates in the brief.

 

 

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[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

You don’t change PP to change stations, it’s the other way around. You select the stations to select the desired PP, which it should retain the selelected PP that you previosly selected for it, but it currently doesn’t. 1 + 1 doesn’t equal 2 the way things are currently modeled in the sim.

 

Update: So it seems PPs are independent of JDAM stations for the FA-18C IRL. In Wags' video, 'assigning' a station to a PP or vice versa wasn't necessary because it wouldn't work that way anyway. After a JDAM is dropped, it will step to the next station as it normally does (regardless of selected PP) and that station will use whichever PP is currently selected (which would be the previous PP if unchanged.) In summary, you simply select the PP required for the target and use any JDAM station you like.

Edited April 27, 2019 by GrEaSeLiTeNiN

[Outlaw24]

My understanding is that PP1/2/3/4 are just profiles for respective targets and any JDAM station will do. You just need to select the right PP for the intended target. In other words the PPs do not get locked into a specific JDAM station.

 

Ok cool, so that step can be completely voided in the process, thanks.

[Majinbot]

Like I said the JDAM QTY functionality is highly dependent on the MC software set you are basing the sim on. The early version of the Hornet software did not allow for multiple JDAMs to be dropped simultaneously on separate targets. The newer software set found on the Hornets that just had their last flights had upgraded JDAM capabilities similar to the Super Hornet.

 

The version we have is the Navy in the 2005 time frame. If you are a RL Rhino wso surely you have access to information that we will never have. The MC software you are talking about in what year it came out? THX.

[Rainmaker]

But it seems as mentioned that PPs are independent of JDAM stations for the FA-18C IRL. In Wags' video, assigning a station to each PP wasn't necessary because it wouldn't work that way anyway. Selecting a PP (before pickle) does not select a station. It just so happens the JDAMs were dropping in the same station sequence as the PPs. At least this is how it currently is in the sim.

 

Again, it’s the other way around. The station, or bomb, get’s it’s selected coordinates from the PP. the PP is basically a profile that is loaded to the bomb. Thats how JDAMS work, regardless of the airframe. You select where you want the bomb to go and how to get there. Right now, the jet has no ability to remember what profile is loaded to what bomb, it just defaults to whatever program you used to drop the previous bomb when it steps to the next station.

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

Again, it’s the other way around. The station, or bomb, get’s it’s selected coordinates from the PP. the PP is basically a profile that is loaded to the bomb. Thats how JDAMS work, regardless of the airframe. You select where you want the bomb to go and how to get there. Right now, the jet has no ability to remember what profile is loaded to what bomb, it just defaults to whatever program you used to drop the previous bomb when it steps to the next station.

 

Yes, that's what I meant :)

[Rainmaker]

Yes, that's what I meant :)

 

Correct, selecting a station will not select a designated profile, which it should.

[GazAce]

Get well soon

 

Once I get by voice back, I'll be creating some new video tutorials.

 

Hey there, seems to me you've had that Bug for a while now mate and I don't mean the 18C either. Hope you come good soon Wags.

Cheers G

:thumbup:

[killerwhale]

GBU38 is jdam

 

I cannot find GBU38

 

 

 

[FOXFIRE TWOONE]

I cannot find GBU38

 

 

 

[ATTACH]209426[/ATTACH]

 

Are you on ( stable ) or ( open beta ). You won't find them in stable, and if you are on OB then you need to update or do repair.

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

I have asked and it is correct as is, the only ripple function for JDAMs is for multiple bombs on the same target, otherwise, you must switch programs as stated. This is how we have modelled it based on the available information we have.

 

 

So the current JDAM implementation is correct as IRL for the FA-18C and will not change? (ie, pilot has to select desired PP before bomb pickle and PP is independent of JDAM station.)

[Eagle7907]

try converting the MGRS coordinate of the target from the mission editor into this free converter web page:

 

http://www.legallandconverter.com/p50.html

 

and see if u get the same DD MM SS.SS values

 

 

 

I’ll try that and see. I also noticed the in mission map F10 doesn’t have the same coordinate resolution as the ME map. Both provide the same format. I think that’s my problem. Sounds like I have to stick with providing the coordinates in the brief.

 

 

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I can confirm that was my issue. The F10 map doesn’t provide precise coordinates. To get precise coordinates you must copy them from the mission editor and make the conversion. I have not checked to see if the mission planner works or not. This is using the DDmm.mmm format.

 

 

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[Chalksta]

good stuff:)

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

JDAM instructions

 

I dont think so, no. It seems based on this thread comments that the current implementation is wrong in terms of loading the coordinates into jdams. Not to mention the flight model, but thats WIP.

 

 

 

Yes, coords format UFC entry will be updated but the current PP-station procedure seems correct as far as they know according to NineLine?

[Chalksta]

I can confirm that was my issue. The F10 map doesn’t provide precise coordinates. To get precise coordinates you must copy them from the mission editor and make the conversion. I have not checked to see if the mission planner works or not. This is using the DDmm.mmm format.

 

 

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good stuff

[Minsky]

The F10 map doesn’t provide precise coordinates.

 

Except it does. Switch to MGRS (LAlt+Y), convert to DMS and input it using the "double ENT" workaround.

[atazar]

After the last update JDAM is still very imprecise. The bombs hit ten meters from your target.

 

 

EDIT: I guess it's because I'm selecting the coordinates directly from F-10.

Edited April 28, 2019 by atazar

[Eagle7907]

Except it does. Switch to MGRS (LAlt+Y), convert to DMS and input it using the "double ENT" workaround.

 

 

That’s not what I said. I said the F10 is incorrect for the DDmm.mmm conversion. If you read my previous posts you would see that.

 

Multiple ways to skin a cat.

 

Either way, like other things, it’s not complete. Still WIP. I’ll just wait until fully implemented. Guided weapons are really slow to develop.

 

 

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[Eagle7907]

After the last update JDAM is still very imprecise. The bombs hit ten meters from your target.

 

 

EDIT: I guess it's because I'm selecting the coordinates directly from F-10.

 

 

 

Most likely.

 

I don’t really desire to use MGRS simply because other modules still don’t implement that format. Going from plane to plane and switching formats will create more mental fatigue than what needs to be.

 

As lord Wags stated in the book of EA chapter 1 verse 3. “Doth purchase thy Early Access, must wait the time of developers.”

 

 

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[NineLine]

So the current JDAM implementation is correct as IRL for the FA-18C and will not change? (ie, pilot has to select desired PP before bomb pickle and PP is independent of JDAM station.)

 

Yes, based on the information we have available to us.

[NineLine]

You guys might find some help here for those of you having issues:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3892852&postcount=1

[NineLine]

Nineline, hi.

 

So you're saying that current implementation will not be as wags stated (meaning that PPs are independant of Jdams)? That's what confuses us the most I think.

 

They are independent only if you don't select the station during programming. Logic changed after that video was made, I believe a new one will be done once Wags is feeling better and has the time.