F-111 Aardvark Bomber

[Xilon_x]

STOP STOP STOP with AMERICAN planes

 

 

It's time to see something different.

TORNADO,

SEPECAT Jaguar GR.1

Buccaneer S.2B

Dassault Rafale

Saab JAS 39 Gripen

Eurofighter EF-2000 Typhoon

AMX International A-11 Ghibli

Alenia Aermacchi MB-339

[msalama]

STOP STOP STOP with the Eurotrash listed above

 

It's time to see something different.

 

I.e. a fully modelled multicrew Tu-95

[Lt_RAzOr_957]

i dont take you srs anymore xilon with wishes like EF2000/rafale or Jas

[Kang]

STOP STOP STOP with AMERICAN planes

 

STOP STOP STOP with the Eurotrash listed above

 

Or how about lets make some of the great, iconic planes of the world and not worry too much about where they come from. There are great American planes and while we already have quite a few of those, there obviously are more. The F-111 is one example.

There are also some great European planes, of which we admittedly don't have as many, yet, but then a lot of them haven't seen as wide a use. No, the Panavia Tornado is not a 'cheap knock-off F-111' at all. Both planes have a lot of similarities, but they also have a lot differences. Both great planes, both rightfully popular.

[MustangSally]

F-111C with Pave tack!

[Dudikoff]

L-F-111 inspired by Europeans the TORNADO desine.

F-111 unlike the tornado cannot carry nuclear weapons.

F-111 was specialized in precision bombardment with laser-guided bombs.

 

3/3 wrong, not bad.

[Xilon_x]

STOP STOP STOP AMERICAN FIGHTERS

 

we want anothere tipe of airplane.

 

Super Etendard (Modernisé)

Atlas Cheetah

SIAI-Marchetti SF-260

FMA IA-58 Pucará

Embraer A-29 Super Tucano

English Electric Lightning F.52/F.53

FMA IA-63 Pampa III

IAI Nesher

Chengdu J-10 Dalilong

Xian JH-7 Flounder

Mitsubishi F-2

HAL Tejas

IAI Kfir C.1/C.2/C.7/TC.7

IAR 93 Vultur---J-22 Orao.

 

who builds airplaneplanes in the world there are not only the AMEICAN industries but there are other important industries better than those American.

Edited May 30, 2019 by Xilon_x

[Lt_RAzOr_957]

if you came along with a Fullback i would agree with 10 percent with you but still the F-111 will make DCS even more Interseting See you Island xilon

[msalama]

we want anothere tipe

 

Who's "we"? 'cuz wanna beer comes Saturday and that'll be all thx

[Lt_RAzOr_957]

Msalma gorread page 1 and 2

[Harlikwin]

You can low level runs like that in the viggen currently.

[Baco]

Well I Must agree we lack diversity. The F-16 all tho albeit the most popular jet after the Tomcat and Eagle maybe, is redundant. Sam capabilities as the Hornet, basically. I wish for more interesting rides, like A-6 Intruder, F-117 yes, Tornado, Jaguar, Nesher or Kfir, asn SU 17/22, Su 39 full clikabel would be adream come true.. Su 24... anythiog diferent! I flew Falcon for over 10 years I have had my share of Viper fliying allready...

[msalama]

You can low level runs

 

YES WE CAN!

[Harlikwin]

YES WE CAN!

 

I CAN GRAMMAR!

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

STOP STOP STOP with AMERICAN planes

 

 

It's time to see something different.

TORNADO,

SEPECAT Jaguar GR.1

Buccaneer S.2B

Dassault Rafale

Saab JAS 39 Gripen

Eurofighter EF-2000 Typhoon

AMX International A-11 Ghibli

Alenia Aermacchi MB-339

 

 

Super Etendard (Modernisé)

Atlas Cheetah

SIAI-Marchetti SF-260

FMA IA-58 Pucará

Embraer A-29 Super Tucano

English Electric Lightning F.52/F.53

FMA IA-63 Pampa III

IAI Nesher

Chengdu J-10 Dalilong

Xian JH-7 Flounder

Mitsubishi F-2

HAL Tejas

IAI Kfir C.1/C.2/C.7/TC.7

IAR 93 Vultur---J-22 Orao.

 

So, what you want boils down to trainers, simple attack craft, and 4.5 genners we've no hope in Hell, Michigan of getting? It takes a lot more than just warm feeling in the cockles of your heart to get something into DCS. It takes widespread interest in the product, a dedicated team to create it, and operators/manufacturers to offer invaluable information on how to model all aspects of the product. I'd love an SF.260, they're beautiful aircraft. But, a piston trainer/light attacker? Do you recall people tearing out their hair (or rather what remnants of hair may adorn their chrome domes) over the additions of the L-39, Hawk, and C-101? It was a trainer take over! Nothing but trainers, the sky is falling!

 

Do you seriously not recall that?

 

Also, there's more to an aircraft than its national origin. A lot more to it. After all, they become cultural icons and their nationality of origin takes a back seat to how they're employed. The F-111 is a great example, itself.

 

The F-111 left US service in 1996, but it soldiered on in Australia until 2010. For a decade and a half, the F-111 was an exclusively Aussie bird. A glorious supersonic bin chicken. It's a part of Australian aviation culture. Another great example is the F-14. Sure, it had the leading role in Topgun (costarring Tom Cruise), so of course it's an icon of 80's and 90's Americana.

 

But, it's gone, now. Well, from US service. The Iranians still fly it and what do you want to bet it held in equally high regard in Iran for its performance during the Iran-Iraq war? I'm betting Iranian kids who fancy pursuing a career in aviation build models of the F-14 just like I did when I was a kid.

 

The Martin B-57 is a legend in US aviation culture. It's British. And, I'm betting a lot of European kids grew up marveling over the Viper.

 

Point is, aircraft become the culture and their place of origin is a curiosity at best for those who consume that culture.

 

P.S. if we ever get an F-111, I really hope an Aussie makes a custom skin for it and calls their -111 "Bin Chicken." That'd be amazing.

[Northstar98]

Do you recall people tearing out their hair (or rather what remnants of hair may adorn their chrome domes) over the additions of the L-39, Hawk, and C-101? It was a trainer take over! Nothing but trainers, the sky is falling!

 

Do you seriously not recall that?

 

That whole shenanigans was so overblown, 3 trainers is hardly a takeover, I'm sorry but the whole hysteria around it was just muscle straining levels of eye-rolling we're seeing it returning whenever we get or people ask for anything not directly combat capable. I mean please...

 

I'd love an F-111, preferably an F model (as most capable) but anything will go, I would also like a Tornado, being a Brit Gr.1/1A and/or F.3

 

For me I see where Xilon is coming from, I get the whole thing with wanting aircraft that are native, at the same time I get the whole thing with demand, what's popular and so forth.

 

Not only that but Buccaneer, Jaguar, Super Etendard? Simple attack aircraft, seriously? They're no more simple than the F-111... Just smaller. I mean the Buccaneer and Super Etendard can carry AShMs, and the Etendard was actually used in a pretty big conflict (so was the F-111F, but just saying) and would fit in perfectly with the South Atlantic map RAZBAM are giving us... Just sayin...

Edited June 1, 2019 by Northstar98

[Xilon_x]

and INDIA? Have you not taken it into consideration? India is the most populous nation in the world 1.28 billion people. India, the former British colony, the India that sent means to space in India has the atomic bomb. INDIA ALSO PRODUCES AIRCRAFT AS THE FAMOUS TEJAS.

Chinese airplanes? in dcs NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING. China is considered the future world power in DCS no Chinese aircraft. UNBELIEVABLE only American aircraft I have the nausea of ​​American aircraft.

 

 

 

the only successful project from America according to me the famous F-16 that deserves all its considerations the rest of the American airplanes with f-35 are a bluff.

Edited June 1, 2019 by Xilon_x

[Harlikwin]

LOL.

 

Its all about availability of documentation and politics. You wont see chinese planes for that reason or russian ones. Same for anything even vaguely modern from europe. Its not because there isnt interest or ED are being meanie pants.

[Kev2go]

L-F-111 inspired by Europeans the TORNADO desine.

F-111 unlike the tornado cannot carry nuclear weapons.

 

 

 

 

Seriously where do you get your alternative facts?

 

 

F111 was designed and put into service over a decade earlier than the Tornado. IN fact the Brits had at one time considered buying the F111 before joining what would become Tornado Program.

 

 

Furthermore F111 could carry nuclear armament, like B43, and B57 Tactical nuclear bombs as well as the AGm69 SRAM ( Short range attack Missile) , a missile with a nuclear warhead with a range of 50 nautical miles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

F-111 was specialized in precision bombardment with laser-guided bombs.

 

 

 

 

 

No it was meant as a low level conventional Interdiction bomber.

 

 

Precision Strike capability only begun being realized with F111D & to a greater extend with F111F variant, and enhanced with subsequent upgrade packages like the inclusions of the PAVE tack FLIR Targeting pod for the F111F variant as well as Multi function Displays . The F111's replacement was the F15E strike Eagle.

Edited June 1, 2019 by Kev2go

[Ironwulf]

F-111C/G/F any or all of those three would be great.

 

Bonus for RF-111C - honestly photo recce sounds boring but I have often thought about missions in a series where players (or perhaps a small subset of them) would have to get their own recon.

 

Extra bonus for EF-111A - I think this would be a great addition even if only AI to begin with.

 

Comments about the F-111 being only suited to huge maps.. PG map is pretty darn big, and in Desert Storm they weren't exactly operating from Guam you know. When you need to get in fast for a deep strike and have the throttle firewalled - or close to it - for a lot of the mission, only a big aircraft like the F-111 will have the legs. One could make the same argument about the F-14 if we follow the logic of these people- long range fleet interceptor... and our only maps are the Persian Gulf and the Caucasus (and in the case of the latter, carriers that can accommodate the Tomcat, cannot legally operate in the Black Sea)

[Xilon_x]

KEV2GO

Tactical Nuclear Armament: all US F-111s, except for the specific EF-111A version, were equipped to accommodate various nuclear free-fall weapons: B43, B57, B61. The FB-111A was able to load, in addition to the war cargo previously listed, also two AGM-69 Short Range Attack Missiles placed in the bomb compartment and another 4 accommodated on the external piers.

 

I was wrong also carrying nuclear weapons ......... but unlike the TORNADO F-111 it was weak in flying down the tornado and much more agile in grazing flight.

[Xilon_x]

IN THIS OPERATION WHERE DO YOU LANDING? F-111 IN ITALY? NATO BASE IN ITALY IS SIGONELLA OR GIOIA DEL COLLE.

 

[Kang]

Do you seriously not recall that?

 

Also, there's more to an aircraft than its national origin. A lot more to it. After all, they become cultural icons and their nationality of origin takes a back seat to how they're employed. The F-111 is a great example, itself.

[…]

Point is, aircraft become the culture and their place of origin is a curiosity at best for those who consume that culture.

That's very well put.

[msalama]

I CAN GRAMMAR!

 

:D Yes you can.

[Xilon_x]

EJECT SYSTEM F-111

 

 

EXAMPLE