Rift S vs HP Reverb

[memoric]

So

 

 

I decided to open this thread, because I've read in the HP Reverb Thread that the 3D effect in the Reverb is less than the Rift CV1.

 

 

Is this true? If it is, that would be a no buy reason for me. How about the Rift S? I assume there it as a 3D effect?

 

 

And how to they both compete in other Sections against each other?

 

 

Thank you!

 

 

Regards

[dburne]

Rift S is just like Rift CV1 in that aspect, assuming your IPD falls within the normal range.

[A10Yoda]

I have used both the HP Reverb and the Oculus Rift S. The clarity on both is amazing compared to generations before. The HP Reverb does have a sharper clarity when it came to text but it seemed extremely marginal to me for the $200+ price difference.

 

Both are superb devices but the next big jump in VR will not come from picture quality but software for natural hand/environment manipulation.

 

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[giei]

So

 

 

I decided to open this thread, because I've read in the HP Reverb Thread that the 3D effect in the Reverb is less than the Rift CV1.

 

 

Is this true? If it is, that would be a no buy reason for me. How about the Rift S? I assume there it as a 3D effect?

 

 

And how to they both compete in other Sections against each other?

 

 

Thank you!

 

 

Regards

 

Easy cause Reverb isn't a gaming vr headset.

[memoric]

Easy cause Reverb isn't a gaming vr headset.

 

 

Is it really that bad? Does it kill immersion? Just asking...

[yellow_jacket]

Is it really that bad? Does it kill immersion? Just asking...

 

Interesting question. Hopefully someone will answer.

[Nagilem]

not sure how much this will help but this guy has a reverb and talks about pros and cons... he is coming from a rift cv1 and o+ I believe...

 

https://forums.mudspike.com/t/vr-news-hp-reverb-second-gen-headsets-are-on-the-way/8165/346

[Wmacky]

I have used both the HP Reverb and the Oculus Rift S. The clarity on both is amazing compared to generations before. The HP Reverb does have a sharper clarity when it came to text but it seemed extremely marginal to me for the $200+ price difference.

 

Both are superb devices but the next big jump in VR will not come from picture quality but software for natural hand/environment manipulation.

 

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But can you comment on the stereoscopic or 3D effect differences? Do you see it? Any chance of doing a quick comparison looking out for this single factor. A naughty movie shoud do the trick :lol:

 

 

I'll admit, I was concerned back when I heard about the possible reduced 3D effect from the tested review. I feel 3D effect is essential!

[A10Yoda]

But can you comment on the stereoscopic or 3D effect differences? Do you see it? Any chance of doing a quick comparison looking out for this single factor. A naughty movie shoud do the trick

 

 

I'll admit, I was concerned back when I heard about the possible reduced 3D effect from the tested review. I feel 3D effect is essential!

Rift S is my preference because of the immersion factor and clarity. However, some people prefer the reverb because they get motion sickness from the 3d render

 

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[Revs]

Who ever has the reverb that thinks it’s less 3D than CV1 please do this - set IPD to few points less than your actual IPD. I wanna know if that’ll result to having the needed overlap for the CV1 3D feel.

[Katmandu]

I have also compared the two side by side. Reverb is the surefire winner if your hardware is up to scratch (1080ti +). The biggest difference being the size of the pixels, RiftS pixels are perceived to be 4-6 times bigger than reverb's. Long distance objects are much more defined in the Reverb, distant plane contours and aspects are easily readable at distances where bigger pixels of the S still show poorly defined black smudges.

 

I did not perceive any difference in 3D-ness between CV1, S and reverb. The only downside to Reverb is the overly bright picture, lowering gamma solves the issue, but not 100%.

 

Overall, having tasted what Reverb has to offer, going back to the RiftS is hard.

[imacken]

I think all this talk about lack of '3D-ness' in the Reverb was simply down to the opinion some people posted (including me) in the main Reverb thread about the lack of dynamic range and colour depth compared to OLED display like the Vive Pro.

As Katmandu stated above, some of this can be sorted by reducing Gamma, but that certainly is not a full solution. In my opinion, there is no solution, it is just the nature of LCD display compared to OLED.

Having said all that, the Reverb is not unique in that respect and it is a great headset with many other advantages, the biggest being the huge reduction in SDE.

[memoric]

I think all this talk about lack of '3D-ness' in the Reverb was simply down to the opinion some people posted (including me) in the main Reverb thread about the lack of dynamic range and colour depth compared to OLED display like the Vive Pro.

As Katmandu stated above, some of this can be sorted by reducing Gamma, but that certainly is not a full solution. In my opinion, there is no solution, it is just the nature of LCD display compared to OLED.

Having said all that, the Reverb is not unique in that respect and it is a great headset with many other advantages, the biggest being the huge reduction in SDE.

 

 

did you preceive any differences in 3D-effect vs the Rift S?

 

 

And @A10Yoda

Is the difference really that big rift s vs reverb in immersion?

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Thanks

Edited June 13, 2019 by memoric

[ruf01au]

NOw I’m using the rift s I can’t imagine ever flying a sim from a flat screen again. Easy to set up and use. Can’t comment on reverb but rift s is a winner for me. Takes flight swimming to an entirely new level.

[dburne]

NOw I’m using the rift s I can’t imagine ever flying a sim from a flat screen again. Easy to set up and use. Can’t comment on reverb but rift s is a winner for me. Takes flight swimming to an entirely new level.

 

:thumbup:

 

Welcome aboard!

Thoroughly enjoying my Rift S as well!

[A10Yoda]

did you preceive any differences in 3D-effect vs the Rift S?

 

 

And @A10Yoda

Is the difference really that big rift s vs reverb in immersion?

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

Thanks

For me I prefer the Rift S. Not sure if it has something to do with graphics card settings etc or the brightness like others stated. The Reverb while clean had a uncomfortable glow on HUD and MFD's.

 

The Rift S for me was the way to go but I do know results will vary and so do preferences.

 

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[louisv]

I have used both the HP Reverb and the Oculus Rift S. The clarity on both is amazing compared to generations before. The HP Reverb does have a sharper clarity when it came to text but it seemed extremely marginal to me for the $200+ price difference.

 

Both are superb devices but the next big jump in VR will not come from picture quality but software for natural hand/environment manipulation.

 

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Are you running win10 1903, there is a bug for VR

[BaronVonDoon]

I'd have to go with the Rift S. Besides being cheaper, it offers much more in terms of VR experiences outside of sims, which is all the Reverb is really good for.

[imacken]

I'd have to go with the Rift S. Besides being cheaper, it offers much more in terms of VR experiences outside of sims, which is all the Reverb is really good for.

What on earth do you mean by that?

[BaronVonDoon]

What on earth do you mean by that?

 

better controllers, better tracking, better games via the oculus store.

[hansangb]

better controllers, better tracking, better games via the oculus store.

 

What didn't you like about the controllers? As for tracking, Vive is far superior to every other tracking mechanism. Then I'd have to go with CV1 with external stations.

 

Finally the rest of the WMRs with inside out tracking. Which Rift S and Reverb falls into.

 

I would agree there are more Oculus games than Steam, but honestly, I rarely play anything other than DCS. Robo Recall sometimes.

[BaronVonDoon]

What didn't you like about the controllers? As for tracking, Vive is far superior to every other tracking mechanism. Then I'd have to go with CV1 with external stations.

 

Finally the rest of the WMRs with inside out tracking. Which Rift S and Reverb falls into.

 

I would agree there are more Oculus games than Steam, but honestly, I rarely play anything other than DCS. Robo Recall sometimes.

 

WMR controllers are famously crap though, they are cheaply made, chunky, have poor tracking and don't feel very nice in the hand, which is the opposite of the Oculus touch. While I'm sure the Vive has better tracking, that doesn't apply when comparing the Rift S and the Reverb, the former of which is the better of the two.

 

I was merely pointing out, that out of the two, the Rift S is a better all round device, for £200 less.

[imacken]

better controllers, better tracking, better games via the oculus store.

 

I’m guessing you haven’t tried the Reverb.

Despite what people say, I found the controllers to be really good. Excellent having a touchpad and a thumb stick. Also, tracking was absolutely no problem whatsoever, even in room space games.

Are you serious about Oculus Store? Compared to Steam, it is poor.

[BaronVonDoon]

I’m guessing you haven’t tried the Reverb.

Despite what people say, I found the controllers to be really good. Excellent having a touchpad and a thumb stick. Also, tracking was absolutely no problem whatsoever, even in room space games.

Are you serious about Oculus Store? Compared to Steam, it is poor.

 

Not reverb ones, but they are the same controllers that come with every WMR unit, so yes I've tried them, and they aren't as good as the oculus touch.

 

And yes imo, Oculus home is more polished, has better titles(plus a few tripleA's coming) and has access to steam. I'm not saying Reverb is a bad device, or WMR devices in gener, or that the Rift S is the best thing out there. But when comparing the two, the Rift S is more polished, and a lot less cash. Resolution isn't everything.

 

The op asked how they compare in other areas outside of the 3d effects. Not that the Reverb is bad, just that imo, the Rift S is better, especially given its much lower price point.

[hansangb]

Not reverb ones, but they are the same controllers that come with every WMR unit, so yes I've tried them, and they aren't as good as the oculus touch.

 

And yes imo, Oculus home is more polished, has better titles(plus a few tripleA's coming) and has access to steam. I'm not saying Reverb is a bad device, or WMR devices in gener, or that the Rift S is the best thing out there. But when comparing the two, the Rift S is more polished, and a lot less cash. Resolution isn't everything.

 

The op asked how they compare in other areas outside of the 3d effects. Not that the Reverb is bad, just that imo, the Rift S is better, especially given its much lower price point.

 

 

 

 

I don't think they are all physically the same. But I woudn't be the best judge because I don't use the controllers. But I would agree that Rift gives you the best experience for folks starting out in VR and don't want to muck around for the best experience.

 

 

 

Rift S is a great value for the money. But my guess is that it's not as good as Reverb. It's probably not as good as P5K+, but again, I haven't tried Rift S so I'm only guessing.