aaron886 Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 Which I'm sure is why as soon as the Iron curtain came down, NASA started using Russian designed rocket motors on their launch vehicles. (the Germans created the technology of the Saturn 5 , and the Russians that of its successor ... :) ) So... rockets = turbine engines? :D
combatace Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 One more Russian again. Skillfully crazy.. To support my models please donate to paypal ID: hp.2084@gmail.com https://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/hero2084?referral=hero2084
marcos Posted October 24, 2012 Posted October 24, 2012 He didn't crash, that counts as skill in my book.
Pyroflash Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Russian pilots are certifiably insane. The jury is still out however, on whether or not this is a bad thing. If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground.
Namenlos Ein Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Russian pilots are certifiably insane. The jury is still out however, on whether or not this is a bad thing. So the Russian passengers are crazy too.
aaron886 Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 He didn't crash, that counts as skill in my book. That's what many people who aren't will pilots say.
Antartis Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 So the Russian passengers are crazy too. OMG! Asus Prime Z-370-A Intel core I7-8700K 3.70Ghz Ram g.skill f4-3200c16d 32gb Evga rtx 2070 Ssd samgung 960 evo m.2 500gb Syria, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Normandy 1944 Combined Arms A-10C, Mirage-2000C, F-16C, FC3 Spitfire LF Mk. IX UH-1H, Gazelle
Bucic Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 He didn't crash, that counts as skill in my book. And when the time comes (those pilots sure work hard to make the time happen) !BOOM! 'Sorry folks, it didn't work quite like ... erm...' I'm sorry to say this but I see that there are more and more young GA pilots who took 'the East of Oder river attitude' as something cool and something to follow. :disgust: F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
marcos Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 Sorry, they should have followed the western approach of grounding all flights until winter was over. So why was it so unskillful experts?
Yurgon Posted October 25, 2012 Posted October 25, 2012 (edited) Sorry, they should have followed the western approach of grounding all flights until winter was over. So why was it so unskillful experts? I think we should clarify that skill is not equal to luck. In aviation, skill is required. But no aviator should ever depend on luck. I can't judge from the video whether the pilots had a lot of skill. But they sure as hell depended on luck. I don't care how much pressure may have been put on these pilots. In my book, they should have outright refused to take off under these circumstances. They knowingly put themselves and their passengers in mortal danger. That's quite possibly a pilot's worst sin, and I don't care one bit if they're the worlds most skilled pilots. These guys should fly a desk for the rest of their careers. And if you fly real aircraft, I sure as hell hope that you'll never ever take off under similar circumstances as long as there's more than just your life on the line. Edit: I just watched this documentary about a bomber attack in the Falklands war: XM607 - Falklands' Most Daring Raid. While at first glance it has little to do with the subject at hand, it illustrates a very important point: In military aviation, pilots push the limits. They are (should be) fully aware of the dangers, as that's what they signed up for. They risk their own lives and the lives of their crew to achieve the assigned goals. Contrary to what I've written above, which was directed towards civil aviation, I'd say that military aviation always needs a bit of luck (or even a bucket full of it), and requires even more skill than civil aviation. So to rephrase the above point: No one in civil aviation should ever depend on luck. (By which I don't mean military pilots should depend on their luck. But that documentary is a very good example of just how many things can go wrong when people push the limits.) Edited October 26, 2012 by Yurgon Additional insight, +typo
Namenlos Ein Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 (edited) Sorry, they should have followed the western approach of grounding all flights until winter was over. … Winter in Bodaybo (-45…-50 °C). http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/0/4/1/1618140.jpg Summer in Bodaybo, +41°C. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/3/8/4/1737483.jpg Well, Spring and Autumn in Bodaybo looks the same way bad. http://video.mail.ru/mail/krysha84/_myvideo/30.html — landing. http://video.mail.ru/list/alenamalysheva/_myvideo/2.html — take-off. ===== Ka-52 IKEA http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3135/31160original.jpg Edited October 26, 2012 by Namenlos Ein
marcos Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 ^That's what I suspected. It's just the climate they have to deal with. Much like ice road truckers have to drive on ice, these guys have to fly on it.
Kenan Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 ^^Exactly. Passengers WANT to fly under such conditions. They have to, have not much of a choice there. Many of those folks for whatever reason, can't afford to sit through a whole winter just because the runway is all muddy and not properly prepared for take offs. Is it crazy? Yes, it is. Is it dangerous? Very much. But the whole region is like that most of the time, the weather there is crappy by the default. People need to travel and I guess they're all aware of risks. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Commanding Officer of: 2nd Company 1st financial guard battalion "Mrcine" See our squads here and our . Croatian radio chat for DCS World
monotwix Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 And when the time comes (those pilots sure work hard to make the time happen) !BOOM! 'Sorry folks, it didn't work quite like ... erm...' I'm sorry to say this but I see that there are more and more young GA pilots who took 'the East of Oder river attitude' as something cool and something to follow. :disgust: Passengers safety depends on regulations and airline’s policies which reflects on pilot’s performance and decision making. It’s not unique to any particular regional flight. Never get tired,.. the policy which didn’t exist prior to this crash for regional flights. I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
joey45 Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 @Yurgon - We won that war with pure luck. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
monotwix Posted October 26, 2012 Posted October 26, 2012 Don’t say that, a massive effort had a lot to do with it to with it to raise the chances. I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
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