replay track fix: not for f14?

[MeatBall]

This might be just F14 related so HB would have to fix it.

I had a quick test with A10A, A10C, F5, F15 and F18 and they indeed do work.

 

After the last patch ED seems to have fixed the problem of random replay track

but this fix not work for f14.

 

in the patch notes:

"Fixed process of randomization that causes the incorrect replay of tracks."

 

Can anyone tell me if the problem remains for the f14?

[electricaltill]

If anything it's worse. At least, with saved tracks. I don't have a HOTAS right now so I can't make any new tracks, but saved F14 tracks the plane nosedives almost immediately, even if you stay in the cockpit view.

[MeatBall]

Is there any Heatblur contact to report the problem?

[FoxTwo]

Yeah, confirmed tracks are still broken for the F-14.

 

 

I just watched my replay crash into the ground, doesn't feel any different from before the fix.

Edited October 4, 2019 by FoxTwo

[electricaltill]

Posters on hoggit have reported it's not fixed for new tracks either

[IronMike]

Thank you for the feedback guys. We will take a look. ATM, or so far, we haven't been really able to pinpoint the issue, but we will keep searching.

[Bearfoot]

This bird is so beautiful to look at and see fly. I think we are seeing only a small proportion of the possible videos that people want to make because it is so difficult to capture. Doubly sad because it is so difficult to these fly IRL nowadays (unless you are Iranian) ....

[MeatBall]

Thank you for the feedback guys. We will take a look. ATM, or so far, we haven't been really able to pinpoint the issue, but we will keep searching.

 

to be completely honest, in the past I read some of your interventions on this problem, where you stated that the work to solve the problem was related to ED, now they have made the change and it seems to work on all the modules, but not on the F14

 

However now this is not important, what is most important is that finally this problem takes more visibility

 

I am very happy and grateful that this problem has caught your attention, and I hope it gets fixed

 

It would be a remarkable improvement

[IronMike]

to be completely honest, in the past I read some of your interventions on this problem, where you stated that the work to solve the problem was related to ED, now they have made the change and it seems to work on all the modules, but not on the F14

 

However now this is not important, what is most important is that finally this problem takes more visibility

 

I am very happy and grateful that this problem has caught your attention, and I hope it gets fixed

 

It would be a remarkable improvement

 

Thanks. Like I said we‘re not sure atm whether the problem is ED only or us or a combination of both. We were fairly certain that it was an ED issue previously as we did what we could from our side to implement it, yet it didn’t work, and similar to other modules. With the recent fix we need to reinvestigate however, if there is something else we can do from our side to make it work. In general tracks are ED side. We’ll keep looking. Thank you for your patience.

[MeatBall]

Thanks. Like I said we‘re not sure atm whether the problem is ED only or us or a combination of both. We were fairly certain that it was an ED issue previously as we did what we could from our side to implement it, yet it didn’t work, and similar to other modules. With the recent fix we need to reinvestigate however, if there is something else we can do from our side to make it work. In general tracks are ED side. We’ll keep looking. Thank you for your patience.

 

 

these kind of answers just make me hope, and I'm very happy with your detailed support

any kind of feedback or any kind of help we can give you, we are here

 

good work, many thanks again

[captain_dalan]

It's not just the F-14 guys. The F-16 is the ONLY plane i flew last night that had the replay tracks working. The F-18, the Mirage, the F-14, even the FC3 planes wouldn't cooperate.

[IronMike]

ok, thanks. this would then further point towards it being ed side.

[Tinkickef]

ok, thanks. this would then further point towards it being ed side.

 

Whoa there kimosavi. I just flew a Huey mission and it played back perfect, despite flying 5 ft above above any and all terrain. After that I flew a short mission in PG, cold start, taxi to runway with the Cat. Take off and land. Then replayed the track from the RIO seat.

 

I made one 90 degree turn with success, I made another 90 degree turn with success (better than ever before with the Cat), but it soon became apparent that it wandered away from the Taxy line quite quickly and ended up in the sand.

Edited October 5, 2019 by Tinkickef

[CoBlue]

ok, thanks. this would then further point towards it being ed side.

Well they fixed the Mig-21 tracks, they had it as a bug report & now all tracks are working. Maybe you can talk to M3LLC guys?

 

 

For me F14, Viggen, F18 are broken.

AV8B, M2K, Mig-21, Mi-8, Uh-1, L-39 all work with replays.

[IronMike]

will do. but could have been something entirely different in their case. worth to check out though

[yngvef]

Did some tests, and F-18, F-16 and Viggen works perfectly in replay. F-14 does not at the moment. It seems like things are happening too late. Like I did a normal takeoff from an airfield and did a short airshow before landing. In the replay, the F-14 rotated much too late, and after takeoff, it flew for just a few hundred meters before crashing back down into terrain.

 

So, to me at least, there seems to be some lag with when the control data is logged to the track file (or however it works).

 

The other tests went perfectly. Even did some very close passes to the control tower to see the accuracy of the replay, and none of the others crashed in the replay or did anything that hadn't happened when I flew for real.

 

So, this is at least an F-14 problem. Haven't tested all other modules, but the ones I have tested are working fine.

[MeatBall]

I don't know about you guys, but i'd pay for this fix

Too wonderful it will be when it will be fixed

[electricaltill]

I don't know about you guys, but i'd pay for this fix

Too wonderful it will be when it will be fixed

+1

[Bearfoot]

I don't know about you guys, but i'd pay for this fix

Too wonderful it will be when it will be fixed

 

+1

 

+2

[Cornelius]

I don't know about you guys, but i'd pay for this fix

Too wonderful it will be when it will be fixed

 

+1

 

+2

 

That’ll be the day!

[yngvef]

Wouldn't make much sense to pay extra for a bug fix.

 

Replays aka. track files don't currently work for F-14, but it does work perfectly on every other plane I've tested (F-15, F-16, F/A-18, Viggen, M2000C, MiG-21bis).

 

I'm pretty sure it's an issue with the F-14 and not from ED's side.

[MeatBall]

ty for your feedback

 

obviously I meant that I would be very happy with the fix

I would be so happy that I could even pay it, it doesn't mean it's right

 

come on @IronMike make us happy

:)

[Katmandu]

Are the replays still broken then? Testing the free weekend and F-14 doesn't want to fly at all in my replays. Other modules seem perfectly fine, including my (only 3rd party plane) Harrier.

 

EDIT: Yep, it is just the F-14 that has completely broken replays. An amateur guess at the cause would be the random shaking that is such an integral part of its FM: since replays are basically recordings of controller input, random shakes at controller level distort the original input and make the plane out of sync. One way to check this would be to record a very smooth flight and see if that would cause replays to diverge.

 

Regardless of the reason, it's a major bummer as replays is one of the best features of DCS (relative to FalconBMS for example). Very much wish for a fix and definitely will not buy until this is sorted.

Edited December 29, 2019 by Katmandu

[Strikeeagle345]

Are the replays still broken then? Testing the free weekend and F-14 doesn't want to fly at all in my replays. Other modules seem perfectly fine, including my (only 3rd party plane) Harrier.

 

EDIT: Yep, it is just the F-14 that has completely broken replays. An amateur guess at the cause would be the random shaking that is such an integral part of its FM: since replays are basically recordings of controller input, random shakes at controller level distort the original input and make the plane out of sync. One way to check this would be to record a very smooth flight and see if that would cause replays to diverge.

 

Regardless of the reason, it's a major bummer as replays is one of the best features of DCS (relative to FalconBMS for example). Very much wish for a fix and definitely will not buy until this is sorted.

 

yes, still broken.

[Uxi]

Is the data gone? IOW, will I be able to watch this track at some point or is it just replaced/gone because of this bug?

 

I had my first successful trap on a carrier (boltered 3 times because I forgot to put the hook down!) and was hoping to watch it but yeah went into the water. I didn't remember that happening...

 

Also splashed two SU-27 after a launch from the carrier waist catapult on a mission, so would like to see that again, too.