rkk01 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Interesting topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogster Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 On 6/15/2022 at 4:49 PM, rkk01 said: Interesting topic All systems being scrapped once obsolete and drawings being burned seems a tad extreme… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schmidtfire Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 So.. last thing I heard about the FRS1 on Razbams Discord (from a dev) was that it was... maybe not on hold... but there are challenges with getting information on the radar and some other systems. So the GR3 would most likely be first and maybe the FRS1 when/if they can get proper documentation. Would be awesome to get an FRS1, but I think it's good to manage expectations a bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkk01 Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Mogster said: All systems being scrapped once obsolete and drawings being burned seems a tad extreme… Certainly does - Makes you wonder how / if us Brits could get anything more modern than a Spitfire or Mosquito I know I have gone on about a relative who was with 100 Group 214 Squadron. All of their activities were deeply classified until 20-30 years after he passed away. From what I’ve read I believe that the EW / RCM kit carried and the detail of their operations is still classified or sketchy at best (probably classified and then lost to the mists of time). I think the justification was that the ABC kit formed the basis of the V Bomber ECM suite…? Sadly it seems like the same mentality prevails regarding obsolete equipment and I fear that details of Blue Fox may disappear with the folks who developed and operated it From the info linked though, it seems like Blue Vixen was a really capable piece of kit - no chance of a FA.2….! Edited June 18, 2022 by rkk01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogster Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 hours ago, rkk01 said: Certainly does - Makes you wonder how / if us Brits could get anything more modern than a Spitfire or Mosquito I know I have gone on about a relative who was with 100 Group 214 Squadron. All of their activities were deeply classified until 20-30 years after he passed away. From what I’ve read I believe that the EW / RCM kit carried and the detail of their operations is still classified or sketchy at best (probably classified and then lost to the mists of time). I think the justification was that the ABC kit formed the basis of the V Bomber ECM suite…? Sadly it seems like the same mentality prevails regarding obsolete equipment and I fear that details of Blue Fox may disappear with the folks who developed and operated it From the info linked though, it seems like Blue Vixen was a really capable piece of kit - no chance of a FA.2….! The drawings especially are part of history, they should be retained for future generations… but anyway… Aye it does make you wonder if any UK stuff can be modelled to a reasonable level, even stuff from 40+ years ago. Razbam have said that the AV8 and Tarawara we have were supposed to be a GR7 and Illustrious iirc, but too much information on the GR7 was unavailable… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-II Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 We destroy stuff so others can't get their hands on it, copy it, and use it against us! Ferranti as a company were excellent at what they did - that is why they were destroyed as a company. Read the history - there is no doubting it was intentional. CAPTOR is an off-shoot, but because of what happened previously, it will either not be very good or will be of lesser capability due to the fact we need to share with others. We may work with the Europeans on stuff, but we sure as hell don't trust them. The US is the only country we truly treat as an equal. Motorola 68000 | 1 Mb | Debug port "When performing a forced landing, fly the aircraft as far into the crash as possible." - Bob Hoover. The JF-17 is not better than the F-16; it's different. It's how you fly that counts. "An average aircraft with a skilled pilot, will out-perform the superior aircraft with an average pilot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkk01 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 6/15/2022 at 4:49 PM, rkk01 said: Interesting topic I know, bad form quoting my own post… …but having just re-read the linked material I was wondering aloud whether Razbam have scoured / downloaded the various references cited? Seems to be quite a store of info in various corners of the web… @Raz_Specter any thoughts? Might not constitute DCS level source material, but some of the linked docs originated from Ferranti, others from Janes etc, with comparisons between Blue Fox, Blue Vixen and known US designs. Must be enough for a good facsimile of the FRS.1 radar system… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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