Svsmokey Posted May 13, 2020 Posted May 13, 2020 Welcome to the forums ! Given your experience level , let's start with the basics . Does DCS run on the laptop screen ? If so , have you checked "use vr headset" in the vr tab of the DCS settings ? If so , do you have WMR and Steam VR running ? If so , are you seeing the vr mirror of DCS on the laptop screen ? For further help , i'll defer to the Reverb owners , but wish you good luck . I suspect you are in for a heck of a ride learning pc's , DCS , and VR simultaneously :) 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2
glcollins Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 Thank you so much! You are correct, this is a lot all at once. But I will get there. I will try your suggestions and will see how it goes. Also, I am flying the mustang, and no matter what I do I still overheat in a climb especially at high altitude. Do you think it is a bug with the Auto rads or a bug in the high altitude campaign. Or both? Lee
Svsmokey Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 I don't have the stang , but i'm certain you could get answers in its dedicated subforum on the main forum page . 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2
speed-of-heat Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 Thank you so much! You are correct, this is a lot all at once. But I will get there. I will try your suggestions and will see how it goes. Also, I am flying the mustang, and no matter what I do I still overheat in a climb especially at high altitude. Do you think it is a bug with the Auto rads or a bug in the high altitude campaign. Or both? Lee The Mustang forum is here: https://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=164 SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Herisson Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 The resulotion should be set to 100%(check that it equals resulotion 2207 x 2160). Don´t quite understand. I also have a reverb, but mine´s showing 2692x2640 as a 100% resolution. How´s that possible? mighty pilot, so it seems · Intel i7 8700K 3.7GHz · Asus 1080 Ti · HP Reverb · Virpil T-50CM2 base + stick · Virpil MT-50 Throttle · TM TPR Pedals
Taz1004 Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Don´t quite understand. I also have a reverb, but mine´s showing 2692x2640 as a 100% resolution. How´s that possible? SteamVR by default applies 1.4x the native resolution because center of each display is magnified and see more pixels. And compensate it by applying supersampling. For Reverb, this should be 3024x3024 but SteamVR seems to think that's too high for most computer so they seem to have settled at that resolution. But basically SteamVR applies supersampling even at 100% by default. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
imacken Posted May 22, 2020 Posted May 22, 2020 Don´t quite understand. I also have a reverb, but mine´s showing 2692x2640 as a 100% resolution. How´s that possible? Sure you haven't got a Global Setting for render res set? Also, do you realise you are running at 60Hz? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Herisson Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Sure you haven't got a Global Setting for render res set? Also, do you realise you are running at 60Hz? Sorry, I am still bad at definitions. Global Settings where exactly? As for the refresh rate, mine is set at 90Hz in Headset Display->Experience Options. I don't know why it's still at 60Hz in SteamVR mighty pilot, so it seems · Intel i7 8700K 3.7GHz · Asus 1080 Ti · HP Reverb · Virpil T-50CM2 base + stick · Virpil MT-50 Throttle · TM TPR Pedals
imacken Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Sorry, I am still bad at definitions. Global Settings where exactly? As for the refresh rate, mine is set at 90Hz in Headset Display->Experience Options. I don't know why it's still at 60Hz in SteamVR Global Settings for Render Resolution in main SteamVR settings window. In my experience, if you are getting 60Hz even though you set it to 90Hz, it means you are getting poor tracking. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Herisson Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Global Settings for Render Resolution in main SteamVR settings window. In my experience, if you are getting 60Hz even though you set it to 90Hz, it means you are getting poor tracking. Ok got it. Found out that “motionReprojectionMode” : “auto” is a way to override that. Only this got me extra 10FPS. But also GPU Usage went up from 72% to 97%:( mighty pilot, so it seems · Intel i7 8700K 3.7GHz · Asus 1080 Ti · HP Reverb · Virpil T-50CM2 base + stick · Virpil MT-50 Throttle · TM TPR Pedals
imacken Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Ok got it. Found out that “motionReprojectionMode” : “auto” is a way to override that. Only this got me extra 10FPS. But also GPU Usage went up from 72% to 97%:( Hmm, don't know why that should be. Motionreprojection should have no effect on whether you are running at 60Hz or 90Hz. As you may be aware, if are running 60Hz, motionreprojection means you running at a pretty constant 30fps, whereas at 90Hz, you'll be on 45fps. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Herisson Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 So in the end of the day, following the instructions provided by https://vr4dcs.com/2019/09/10/reverb-settings-for-dcs/ (except for SteamVR public beta), Pixel density at 1.0 and SteamVR resolution at 2200x2156 (100%) I get ~42FPS in F-14 instant action placed on SuperCarrier. With a lot of jaggies, parked a/c not producing any shadows (perhaps a bug). In F-18 writings/marks on MFDs become unreadable, so I have to lean towards them. In general very unpleasant experience. Any thoughts what I'm doing wrong? mighty pilot, so it seems · Intel i7 8700K 3.7GHz · Asus 1080 Ti · HP Reverb · Virpil T-50CM2 base + stick · Virpil MT-50 Throttle · TM TPR Pedals
imacken Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 So in the end of the day, following the instructions provided by https://vr4dcs.com/2019/09/10/reverb-settings-for-dcs/ (except for SteamVR public beta), Pixel density at 1.0 and SteamVR resolution at 2200x2156 (100%) I get ~42FPS in F-14 instant action placed on SuperCarrier. With a lot of jaggies, parked a/c not producing any shadows (perhaps a bug). In F-18 writings/marks on MFDs become unreadable, so I have to lean towards them. In general very unpleasant experience. Any thoughts what I'm doing wrong? Well, the first thing I would say is that the the Super Carrier is horrendous in VR at the moment. It has the worst frame times of any scenario I have ever seen in DCS. In my experience, this is down to shadows. Try turning shadows off, and you'll see a big difference on the SC. I don't want to lose shadows, but I have to turn them off when doing a SC mission. I can only assume this situation will improve. In my opinion, DCS performance in VR is a balance between MSAA, SteamVR SS rate and shadows. Nothing else matters too much. Try missions away from the SC and bump your SS up to 200%. Keep shadows flat and MSAA off. How does that look? Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Herisson Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Well, the first thing I would say is that the the Super Carrier is horrendous in VR at the moment. It has the worst frame times of any scenario I have ever seen in DCS. In my experience, this is down to shadows. Try turning shadows off, and you'll see a big difference on the SC. In my opinion, DCS performance in VR is a balance between MSAA, SteamVR SS rate and shadows. Nothing else matters too much. Try missions away from the SC and bump your SS up to 200%. Keep shadows flat and MSAA off. How does that look? Thank you for your inputs. I actually chose to experiment with F-14 and SC as this is probably the most demanding combo. Supposedly everything else should be a walk in the park after that. Have you played much with overclocking to improve your performance? Based on fpsVR screenshot above, what parameters would you have tried to tweak? Cheers mighty pilot, so it seems · Intel i7 8700K 3.7GHz · Asus 1080 Ti · HP Reverb · Virpil T-50CM2 base + stick · Virpil MT-50 Throttle · TM TPR Pedals
imacken Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Thank you for your inputs. I actually chose to experiment with F-14 and SC as this is probably the most demanding combo. Supposedly everything else should be a walk in the park after that. Have you played much with overclocking to improve your performance? Based on fpsVR screenshot above, what parameters would you have tried to tweak? Cheers Did you try my earlier suggestion of 200% in anything but SC missions? That will improve clarity in cockpit a lot. All I would change in your settings are terrain quality to high and water to high. Doesn't seem to affect fps much to bump these up, and the water effect is quite marked. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
speed-of-heat Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Thank you for your inputs. I actually chose to experiment with F-14 and SC as this is probably the most demanding combo. Supposedly everything else should be a walk in the park after that. Have you played much with overclocking to improve your performance? Based on fpsVR screenshot above, what parameters would you have tried to tweak? Cheers CPU overclocking should easily get you up to 4Ghz or higher depending on your cooling solution , it will make your CPU frame times better, but you like me are likely bottle necked on your GPU... SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Herisson Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Thanks to both. 200% SteamVR SS, all shadows to flat, F-18 over the sea and 45FPS, which is fine. Clarity in cockpit is acceptable now, other items much less jaggy, except all ships' antennas etc, which are horrible. What's the most efficient way to spend a few FPS on that? Turn on FXAA in Nvidia settings? mighty pilot, so it seems · Intel i7 8700K 3.7GHz · Asus 1080 Ti · HP Reverb · Virpil T-50CM2 base + stick · Virpil MT-50 Throttle · TM TPR Pedals
imacken Posted May 23, 2020 Posted May 23, 2020 Put FXAA on. I can’t see what difference it makes, but it doesn’t seem to cost much in resources terms. Your only tool on ‘jaggies’ is MSAA. Even at 2x it is a resource hog, however. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
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