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Anglo medium fighters (what would you like to see?)  

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  1. 1. Anglo medium fighters (what would you like to see?)

    • F-16
      13
    • F/A-18
      40
    • Tornado ADV
      18
    • Sea Harrier (eg. FRS2)
      17
    • F4F
      4


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If they want to seek and destroy for sales, they should merge with Bungie and create bullet flightmodels for the Halo series, the games outsell hollywood movies. The F-16 has been done to death and will continue on that plan. Hornets, on the other hand, provide carrier ops (USN is the only Navy to do night carrier landings remember) as well as antiship, all kinds of strike, unique flight characteristics (stall speed resembles that of Cessna) and also opens the door to Canada. Seriously, wouldn't YOU want to fly a plane and see three MFD's and a picture of a moose all at once? Chugging maple syrup at 6g, sounds fun, eh?

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Hmmm... I guess the movie Speed and Angels lied when they said USN were the only ones...

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Posted

Did you notice that between the 2 polls :

Eurasian medium fighters (what would you like to see?)

&

Anglo medium fighters (what would you like to see?)

You have offered a choice between 9 blue aircraft & only 2 Red.

 

Mirage F-16, F/A-18, Mirage F1, Mirage III, Mirage 2000, F4F, Harrier, Tornado and Viggen, but no MiG-27K,

maybe a MiG-21 variant

 

"The Dutch pilot Leon Van Maurer, who had more than 1200 hours flying F-16s, flew against MiG-23ML Flogger-Gs from air bases in Germany and the U.S. as part of NATO's aerial mock combat training with Soviet equipment. He concluded that the MiG-23ML has superiority on the vertical plane over early F-16 variants, is just slightly inferior to the F-16A on the horizontal plane, and has superior BVR capability."

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*cough* Royal Navy *cough* ;)
Umm... no, the Sea Harrier is out of the service, UK Fleet Air Arm is left only with Harrier GR9, and to my knowledge, those are not operationally used from the boat after sun down. Only on training.

 

Anyway, comparing Harrier, to 3 times heavier Super Hornet or Tomcat is a bit funny, not to mention, that those aircraft make the landing with infinitly times higher relative speed (0 kts vs 110 kts ) :smilewink:

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Posted

A F/A-18 or a F-15E would be good.

Posted
Umm... no, the Sea Harrier is out of the service, UK Fleet Air Arm is left only with Harrier GR9, and to my knowledge, those are not operationally used from the boat after sun down. Only on training.

 

Well, are the GR9 even FAA aircraft and not RAF? As a matter of fact, does the FAA still exists?

 

 

The Sea Harrer saw night carrier ops in the Falkland war, as well as operations in extreme low vis conditions. There are some hair raising stories, like when the taskgroup got into a fog bank and a SARH almost crashed into the superconstruction while hovering for the landing.

 

 

Oh and for the "easier" low landing speed. Apples and oranges, hovering a Harrier with almost no visual references is no piece of cake.

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Umm... no, the Sea Harrier is out of the service, UK Fleet Air Arm is left only with Harrier GR9, and to my knowledge, those are not operationally used from the boat after sun down. Only on training.

I think you just stated they do ;) Pilots need to achieve the qualifications INQ and FNQ to be operational.

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Anyway, comparing Harrier, to 3 times heavier Super Hornet or Tomcat is a bit funny, not to mention, that those aircraft make the landing with infinitly times higher relative speed (0 kts vs 110 kts ) :smilewink:

 

They don't call it the black widow because it's flyboy friendly. Didn't this flyweight, subsonic jet kill more pilots than any other 'heavier' plane? I remember a marines harrier pilot comparing hovering a harrier to balancing a car (or something along that line) on a needle point.

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Posted

They do - yes, but not in combat operations, probably to reduce the chances of accidents due to pilots fatigue. The same goes to French ad Russian Navy (yet those two carriers are rarely leaving ports/docks)

 

Apples and oranges is exactly what it is, hover landing is totally different then typical angled deck approach and can't be compared.

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Posted
Did you notice that between the 2 polls :

Eurasian medium fighters (what would you like to see?)

&

Anglo medium fighters (what would you like to see?)

You have offered a choice between 9 blue aircraft & only 2 Red.

 

Mirage F-16, F/A-18, Mirage F1, Mirage III, Mirage 2000, F4F, Harrier, Tornado and Viggen, but no MiG-27K,

maybe a MiG-21 variant

 

"The Dutch pilot Leon Van Maurer, who had more than 1200 hours flying F-16s, flew against MiG-23ML Flogger-Gs from air bases in Germany and the U.S. as part of NATO's aerial mock combat training with Soviet equipment. He concluded that the MiG-23ML has superiority on the vertical plane over early F-16 variants, is just slightly inferior to the F-16A on the horizontal plane, and has superior BVR capability."

 

The Mig-27 was located in the previous Eurasian light attack aircraft poll (and came out with a strong majority). The primary way of splitting the aircraft was via. whether or not they had combat radars. As for the Mig-21, no body requested it and it is largely out of service in the region.

 

I included the large number of French aircraft in order to properly represent the breakdown of votes inside of these families of aircraft (otherwise it would have been the equivalent of putting up a poll saying "do you want an American, British, French or Soviet aircraft next?").

  • 1 month later...
Posted

I voted Tornado.

A very good plane for SEAD missions and the like... :thumbup:

 

Second on my list would be the F/A-18 for the possible carrier ops

Posted

Tornado with MOD to ECR

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finland uses the F-18 not the F/A.. IIRC

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