HARM doing insufficient damage

[Druid_]

2 Harms fired. 40% damage on a direct hit and still operational.

 

 

and don't start me on Tunguskas where the operator can pick out an F18 at 100ft agl at 10nm VISUALLY !! only then does he switch ON radar and fire at 5nm. Quite ridiculous. Whole AI is long overdue an overhaul in DCS.

Edited April 17, 2020 by Druid_

[BIGNEWY]

Unit damage models are very simplified currently, we have plans to improve them in the future.

 

thanks

[Druid_]

Unit damage models are very simplified currently, we have plans to improve them in the future.

 

thanks

 

Sure. But in the meantime a simple solution is to increase the warhead damage value. We both know how long it will take ED to sort out the ground unit damage modelling.

[Bananabrai]

HARM is not doing a lot of damage IRL.

 

But its fragments make most radars INOP pretty quickly.

That would require a hughley improved damage model though.

 

Gladly its been confirmed, locking forward.

[BIGNEWY]

A work around some use is to have a trigger for each unit

 

So new trigger > unit is damage > explode unit

[fragal]

Can't we just increase the damage they do ? Everything else can kill things.

[Northstar98]

Yeah, the issue is the lack of component level damage modelling (such as antennae). Another issue is that AFAIK all anti-radiation missiles behave like anything else i.e they track the centre of objects, not the actual emitter - which is what they should home in on.

 

This becomes much more of a problem when firing them at ships.

[Nero.ger]

how hard can it be to just increase the damage until there is a propper damage model??

[Shadow KT]

Or decrease/fix the armor values of vehicles. Some of these older models and vehicles are pretty busted.

 

The saving grace is that even at half health, that radar is no longer working. I would say the damage for this radar is somewhat alright.

Edited April 19, 2020 by Shadow KT

[Druid_]

Its been around a while https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=245587 Yes a simple fix to the explosive value would fix everything.

[Northstar98]

Its been around a while https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=245587 Yes a simple fix to the explosive value would fix everything.

 

Well, unless you target a ship...

[Zergburger]

there's a reason harms are a SEAD weapon, not DEAD. they dont incinerate a radar station, they damage it.

[Chizh]

2 Harms fired. 40% damage on a direct hit and still operational.

Radars are not operating with damage more 50%

The S-300 vehicles have very old 3D models with very simple DM. They will be completely overhaul with new 3D model.

and don't start me on Tunguskas where the operator can pick out an F18 at 100ft agl at 10nm VISUALLY !! only then does he switch ON radar and fire at 5nm. Quite ridiculous.

What is wrong?

Edited April 22, 2020 by Chizh

[Druid_]

Radars are not operating with damage more 50%

The S-300 vehicles have very old 3D models with very simple DM. They will be completely overhaul with new 3D model.

 

What is wrong?

 

Well if you can pick out an F18 at 100ft over the sea whilst you are based on land covering 360 degrees at 10nm which is 18km then, even with optics, you are truly superhuman Chizh. Also, do Tunguskas aquire visually and only then raise radar IRL ? I very much doubt it somehow.

 

Whilst we wait for the new damage models can we not just up the explosive damage of the Harm for now? Adding it as a feature to the F18 then making it unpredictable is frustrating for those trying to use it.

Edited April 24, 2020 by Druid_