Griefhard Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) Hi, I am using the COUGAR Throttle with the Dogfight Switch. Now when I use the Dogfight Switch to any direction (forward or aft) I have to manually put the radar into ACM mode via the left MFD. Shouldn't the radar be put into ACM mode when accessing the Dogfight Switch? Edited April 20, 2020 by DoctorDigital Typo in headline
ilikepie Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 is it bound correctly in the options? It behaves as expected with a TMWH hotas Action After Contemplation
Griefhard Posted April 20, 2020 Author Posted April 20, 2020 It is bound correctly. It works partly. It selects missiles, respectively guns. But the radar should be put into ACM mode, which is not. After switching to guns/missiles I had to change radar modes via the left MFD. I checked this repeatedly with JHMS on.
DD_fruitbat Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 It is bound correctly. It works partly. It selects missiles, respectively guns. But the radar should be put into ACM mode, which is not. After switching to guns/missiles I had to change radar modes via the left MFD. I checked this repeatedly with JHMS on. Are you stable or beta, been fixed ish in beta
ilikepie Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 I'm OB as well. just checked mine and is behaving as expected. is there a double up on the binding? Action After Contemplation
Griefhard Posted April 21, 2020 Author Posted April 21, 2020 Hmmm... interesting. I have set the buttons via the HOTAS Section. Nothing fancy. Just to clarify: 1. Master Arm on 2. AA Mode 3. JHMS on and showing 4. Dogfight Switch (back or fwd) Now I cannot change radar acquisition modes (TMS up, right, down). I now have to set radar to ACM manually via the left MFD. Once done, TMS works as intended. I will repair my installation and will check once more. Once with, once without JHMS. Anyone else having issues?
Stubbies2003 Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 Hmmm... interesting. I have set the buttons via the HOTAS Section. Nothing fancy. Just to clarify: 2. AA Mode This step isn't required. Missile Override or Dogfight will override any mode that was active. No need to have hit the A-A master mode button. It should work from A-G or Nav modes just fine.
Svend_Dellepude Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 There are two bindings for dgft and mrm. One is a simple press and release, but the other one need you to hold the key or button pressed. Otherwise you will exit dgft or mrm, but the missile will still be selected if in A-A mode. Please check that you bound the right one. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD.
Griefhard Posted April 21, 2020 Author Posted April 21, 2020 DOGFIGHT/Missile Override Switch (special) - DOGFIGHT/CENTER and DOGFIGHT/Missile Override Switch (special) - MISSILE OVERRIDE/CENTER since I have the Thrustmaster COUGAR Throttle. Just tested it: If I put the switch to DOGFIGHT - Gunsight appears - Radar gets put into ACM Mode - TMS on the Stick works as intended (target acquisition modes) If I put the switch to MISSILE OVERRIDE - Missile Mode is selected (Circle in HUD) - Radar does not switch to ACM Mode - TMS on the Stick does not change target acquisition modes. If I center the switch the previos mode is restored. It behaves the same if JHMS is on or off.
ilikepie Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 i dont think that its supposed to go into ACM when MRM is selected as its selecting the longest ranged missile on board. Just my interpretation of the manual, Action After Contemplation
Deano87 Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 Correct Missile override should not activate ACM. The only mode that activates ACM is Dogfight mode. Proud owner of: PointCTRL VR : Finger Trackers for VR -- Real Simulator : FSSB R3L Force Sensing Stick. -- Deltasim : Force Sensor WH Slew Upgrade -- Mach3Ti Ring : Real Flown Mach 3 SR-71 Titanium, made into an amazing ring. My Fathers Aviation Memoirs: 50 Years of Flying Fun - From Hunter to Spitfire and back again.
Griefhard Posted April 22, 2020 Author Posted April 22, 2020 Thanks! It was uncelear to me what the switch did. I got the impression, that you use the DGFT Switch in closer combat situations combined with ACM radar mode, even though you get AMRAAMs selected. I then don't really understand the use of the Missile Overide feature, since it would be the same, as if the pilot is pushing the AA button? But then - I am no real combat pilot either. ;-)
JB3DG Posted April 22, 2020 Posted April 22, 2020 The missile override mode is basically for situations where you are busy navigating or on a bomb run and you get jumped by some fighter/interceptor that is too far away for dogfight mode, but close enough that you need to be able to get the first shot pronto or let him shoot first. I usually use it to fire AIM-120s in visual mode when I get caught off guard.
Fakum Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 (edited) I am using the Cougar HOTAS also, and I still use the FOXY software. What I am not clear on is if I press the Dogfight switch LEFT to initiate: "DOGFIGHT/CENTER" and I press the Dogfight switch RIGHT to initiate :"MISSILE OVERRIDE/CENTER" What command do I initiate for the "RETURN" (to center)? E.G. BTN T7 /O DOGFIGHT/CENTER /R ?????????????? BTN T8 /O MISSILE OVERRIDE/CENTER /R ??????????????? Edited May 7, 2020 by Fakum Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit / ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming / AMD 7800X3D / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB DDR5 6000 Ram / SSD M.2 SK hynix Platinum P41 2TB / MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G / SteelSeries Arctis 7 Headset /LG-Ultragear 38" IPS LED Ultrawide HD Monitor (3840 x 1600) / Track IR4 / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Virpil HOTAS VPC Constellation ALPHA-R & VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle
Tenkom Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 What is the point of AA mode? What does it do that MRM mode does not?
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Fakum Posted May 7, 2020 Posted May 7, 2020 Found this in another thread if anyone else has an interest. i will give it a shot tomorrow. Rem ################################################### Rem T7-T8 : Toggle DogFight & Missile Override Modes Rem ################################################### BTN T7 /P DOGFIGHT/Missile_Override_Switch-DOGFIGHT /R DOGFIGHT/Missile_Override_Switch-DOGFIGHT/CENTER BTN T8 /P DOGFIGHT/Missile_Override_Switch-MISSILE_OVERRIDE /R DOGFIGHT/Missile_Override_Switch-MISSILE_OVERRIDE/CENTER Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit / ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming / AMD 7800X3D / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB DDR5 6000 Ram / SSD M.2 SK hynix Platinum P41 2TB / MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G / SteelSeries Arctis 7 Headset /LG-Ultragear 38" IPS LED Ultrawide HD Monitor (3840 x 1600) / Track IR4 / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Virpil HOTAS VPC Constellation ALPHA-R & VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle
Frederf Posted May 8, 2020 Posted May 8, 2020 What is the point of AA mode? What does it do that MRM mode does not? Very little, things like cool the AIM-9 automatically or not. It's also the only way to select the air-to-air gun only. The practical benefit of AA master mode is that missile/radar preferences are independent of the other modes so you can for example have AA in VSR and MRM in RWS and quickly switch between the two.
Svend_Dellepude Posted May 8, 2020 Posted May 8, 2020 I read somewhere long ago that the override modes also are used before and after a bomb run the make sure the area is clear. pretty handy for that. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD.
darkman222 Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Whats going on with the DGFT mode at the moment? Anybody knows? As far as I know, it should work that way: I enter DGFT mode, radar turns off. "no rad" appears on the HUD. I sneak behind the enemy fire the Aim9 without a radar lock, bandit gets no RWR warning. Or maybe if I am unsure about the range, I press TMS up, radar turns on, I lock the bandit up, hopefully too late for him to react, and fire the aim9 with the seeker slaved to the radar lock. But what happens now, is the F16 auto locking in DGFT mode, giving away my stealthiness instantly. Does someone know whats going on?
Svend_Dellepude Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 Modes are not finished yet. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD.
Top Jockey Posted May 14, 2020 Posted May 14, 2020 Modes are not finished yet. By the way, are the AIM-9 spot / scan modes considered as finished already ? Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
HR-Crumble Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 Hi all any update on this? Im trying to employ the HMCS 9-x lock by sneaking up on a bandit. As per page 149 i think it is in the manual i power on the HMCS, activate dgft mode and hit bore mode and start moving the cross over the target - problem is DGFT mode auto locks with the radar and i cant unacge to lock a different target? DGFT mode should say NO RAD until you TMS up to turn on the radar? Is this still WIP?
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