Nvidia Ampere: RTX 3000 graphics cards set for August reveal

[SkateZilla]

Like I said in the other thread,

RTX Titan (Turing)

2499.99 MSRP, 24GB, 4608 CUDA, 72 RT Cores

[derneuemann]

Rdna 2 will be competing with the 30 series, not turing. And this is just great, we need competition.

 

 

 

 

I hope so.

[Wali763]

I was very sure to get the RTX3080TI or and AMD-equivalent until 2 months ago, but right now Im not sure any more.

 

It just seems to me DCS is way too CPU-bound to use the GPU accordingly.

 

Recently I had a situation, where I had 7fps in 2.5.6! But thats most likely related to 2.5.6 and will hopefully be resolve soon. Normally I have only dips down to 40-50.

 

Looking at Afterburner my (moderate) 2070-GPU usually only gets used maybe 50-70 percent with my 60fps-cap (because of TrackIR) on my 1440p-monitor.

 

Also with the Reverb (the last HMD I tested) it seemed, that my GPU was not the bottleneck. All the fps-dips came from very high CPU-frametimes..

 

So what would a RTX3080Ti give me? On monitor I have pretty high settings and only could use (DCS-) SSAA or SSLR to up GPU-load.

 

But what would that give me? Not too much I guess.

 

In VR I could obviously up the SS/PD but that would only give me a slightly better image depending on the HMD.

 

Overall I have the feeling, that a better GPU will increase (non-capped) FPS by maybe 50% in perfect situations, but I still will have the CPU-caused drops to 40 or 50 on my monitor. So the max fps (or some graphical settings) will be higher, but the drops will still be the same as before.

 

This IMO will be true until DCS will offer real support for multicore-CPUs.

 

So actually right now I think, investing in a 1200ish-RTX3080Ti is money thrown out of the window.

 

Anybody can give an argument to still buy such a expensive card?

Edited April 29, 2020 by Wali763

[BranchPrediction]

Well i myself also play other games. And with the new remaster of that certain high graphics game that i cannot name coming out soon, i will have to upgrade my gpu. But 1200€ i will not pay. I would like to own the top card for once, but i just cannot pay 1000 to 1200 euros :(

[SkateZilla]

I was very sure to get the RTX3080TI or and AMD-equivalent until 2 months ago, but right now Im not sure any more.

 

It just seems to me DCS is way too CPU-bound to use the GPU accordingly.

 

Recently I had a situation, where I had 7fps in 2.5.6! But thats most likely related to 2.5.6 and will hopefully be resolve soon. Normally I have only dips down to 40-50.

 

Looking at Afterburner my (moderate) 2070-GPU usually only gets used maybe 50-70 percent with my 60fps-cap (because of TrackIR) on my 1440p-monitor.

 

Also with the Reverb (the last HMD I tested) it seemed, that my GPU was not the bottleneck. All the fps-dips came from very high CPU-frametimes..

 

So what would a RTX3080Ti give me? On monitor I have pretty high settings and only could use (DCS-) SSAA or SSLR to up GPU-load.

 

But what would that give me? Not too much I guess.

 

In VR I could obviously up the SS/PD but that would only give me a slightly better image depending on the HMD.

 

Overall I have the feeling, that a better GPU will increase (non-capped) FPS by maybe 50% in perfect situations, but I still will have the CPU-caused drops to 40 or 50 on my monitor. So the max fps (or some graphical settings) will be higher, but the drops will still be the same as before.

 

This IMO will be true until DCS will offer real support for multicore-CPUs.

 

So actually right now I think, investing in a 1200ish-RTX3080Ti is money thrown out of the window.

 

Anybody can give an argument to still buy such a expensive card?

 

Other than to have the latest and newest, there is no reason.

 

I keep my GPU's for 6+ years before upgrading,

 

I should be getting a 5700XT, but I figured w/ work being uncertain and stuff I'll wait for rDNA2 equiv.

 

Even though I run 6 Screens or VR For games, I still use my R7970 Lightnings just fine across 6 screens or in VR.

 

Like most people, DCS being the outlaying sim that likes to have low FPS.

 

Since I have so many I/O needs, The Actual Graphics Cards that support my setup are usually in the line of 1 or 2 per generation, and that still counts having to buy new adapters.

 

While I Could get a 5700XT now, and literally Double Quadruple my performance from this GCN1.0 R7970 Overclocked to the edge of temperal existance.

 

I can wait and get the rDNA2 Refresh that would use 35-40% less power (so instead of 225w, I can get one that would use 150w) Etc etc.

 

the R7970 Lightnings were over $800 each when I bought them, and I have 3, (1 is dead, but I keep for parts).

 

Upgrading every year or 2 at the cost of $1.2K+ isnt feasable.

 

Although, this same R7970 Card is selling in trade sites to coin miners for 800-1K a peice.

[SkateZilla]

Well i myself also play other games. And with the new remaster of that certain high graphics game that i cannot name coming out soon, i will have to upgrade my gpu. But 1200€ i will not pay. I would like to own the top card for once, but i just cannot pay 1000 to 1200 euros :(

 

RTX Titan is $2499 USD

[BranchPrediction]

Ah yes SkateZilla, the legendary 7970, the gcn 1.0 architecture was the best there was back then. 7970 can game well even today. And they have good overclocking potential aswell. Truly legendary cards.

[bad_turbulence]

RTX Titan is $2499 USD

you can buy two 3080Ti's for that price and set them up with NVLink and have a super system. And you'd still have money left over to get the Virpil Throttle.

[Svsmokey]

I was very sure to get the RTX3080TI or and AMD-equivalent until 2 months ago, but right now Im not sure any more.

 

It just seems to me DCS is way too CPU-bound to use the GPU accordingly.

 

Recently I had a situation, where I had 7fps in 2.5.6! But thats most likely related to 2.5.6 and will hopefully be resolve soon. Normally I have only dips down to 40-50.

 

Looking at Afterburner my (moderate) 2070-GPU usually only gets used maybe 50-70 percent with my 60fps-cap (because of TrackIR) on my 1440p-monitor.

 

Also with the Reverb (the last HMD I tested) it seemed, that my GPU was not the bottleneck. All the fps-dips came from very high CPU-frametimes..

 

So what would a RTX3080Ti give me? On monitor I have pretty high settings and only could use (DCS-) SSAA or SSLR to up GPU-load.

 

But what would that give me? Not too much I guess.

 

In VR I could obviously up the SS/PD but that would only give me a slightly better image depending on the HMD.

 

Overall I have the feeling, that a better GPU will increase (non-capped) FPS by maybe 50% in perfect situations, but I still will have the CPU-caused drops to 40 or 50 on my monitor. So the max fps (or some graphical settings) will be higher, but the drops will still be the same as before.

 

This IMO will be true until DCS will offer real support for multicore-CPUs.

 

So actually right now I think, investing in a 1200ish-RTX3080Ti is money thrown out of the window.

 

Anybody can give an argument to still buy such a expensive card?

 

That 2070S is a hella good card . Should continue to serve you well at 1440p . For my part , i'm factoring in VR and Vulkan's demands for more VRAM in my purchasing decision , whether RDNA2 or 30×× .

[BranchPrediction]

That 2070S is a hella good card . Should continue to serve you well at 1440p . For my part , i'm factoring in VR and Vulkan's demands for more VRAM in my purchasing decision , whether RDNA2 or 30×× .

 

Does vulkan use more vram?

[Svsmokey]

Does vulkan use more vram?

 

Yes , because it preloads shaders/ textures before drawing a frame . The developers of that civilian sim that implemented it made a presentation on YT . I'll see if i can find it .

[Svsmokey]

Yeah , Austin Meyer's channel has the Vulkan presentation on YT , that explains their implementation and its effects on VRAM .

Sorry , don't know how to link YT vids :)

[BranchPrediction]

No worries, thx for info.

[dburne]

Revealed in August, Not For Sale.

 

RTX2000 Was Revealed in August 2018, Founders Editions were Released Sept. 20, with Cards being Generally Available By December.

 

 

And I'd Still wait for rDNA 2 Cards.

 

 

RTX 3000's Up to 50% Faster Line is deceiving, as it applies mainly to RayTracing.

 

If AMD's rDNA 2 Cards w/ RT Compete it will force nVidia to dump prices to match.

 

I pre-ordered my EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 on 9/9/2018 and received it on 10/24/2018.

[BranchPrediction]

I pre-ordered my EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 on 9/9/2018 and received it on 10/24/2018.

 

Did ur card die?

[SkateZilla]

RTX3080 Ti Rumors to be > 8000 Cores.

[BranchPrediction]

I doubt that the 3080ti will have anywhere near 8000 cuda cores. I think that 8096 cores rumour is for the datacenter. I mean 8000 cores is above 120 CU's

[SkateZilla]

128 SM

8192 CUDA cores @ 1750MHz boost

1024 Tensor Cores

256 RT Cores

7nm

[dburne]

Did ur card die?

 

No not at all, it is running great.

[BranchPrediction]

Cool dburne. Ur system is quite a beast. 9900k at 5.2 ghz darn. Is H150i really enough for that OC?

[VirusAM]

Cool dburne. Ur system is quite a beast. 9900k at 5.2 ghz darn. Is H150i really enough for that OC?

 

 

 

Yeahh....

Could you explain which settings do you use in bios to run it on 5.2GHz?

I took it to 5.1 but it is not so stable so i am running at 5 now.

I have a pretty beefy liquid cooler so temps are not an issue

[BranchPrediction]

All cpus are different, his can do 5.2ghz and that other guys can only 4.9ghz at the exact same settings. But for overcloking u want to mess around with the voltage, load line calibration and the multiplier. Btw u made a mistake in ur signature. U wrote i7 9900k but its i9 9900k :)

[VirusAM]

All cpus are different, his can do 5.2ghz and that other guys can only 4.9ghz at the exact same settings. But for overcloking u want to mess around with the voltage, load line calibration and the multiplier. Btw u made a mistake in ur signature. U wrote i7 9900k but its i9 9900k :)

 

Ahahah you are right...i will change it now.

Yes i know how to OC, i am just curious about is parameters.

I changed the multiplayer and set loadline calibration, but i did not want to mess with the voltage so i left to auto. Probably if i set a manual voltage i will be able to get higher freqs

[dburne]

Cool dburne. Ur system is quite a beast. 9900k at 5.2 ghz darn. Is H150i really enough for that OC?

 

Yes it is doing fine for me. CPU core temps usually around low to mid 70's during my gaming.

[dburne]

Ahahah you are right...i will change it now.

Yes i know how to OC, i am just curious about is parameters.

I changed the multiplayer and set loadline calibration, but i did not want to mess with the voltage so i left to auto. Probably if i set a manual voltage i will be able to get higher freqs

 

Yes manually setting the voltage would allow for a more precise overclock.

Just be sure and stress test it and keep an eye on the core temps as you go.